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FlaGator
03-22-2010, 07:54 AM
This may throw a wrench in works... Are the celebrations and high-fives a bit premature?



WASHINGTON DC – Senate Democrats have balked at a bi-partisan meeting with the Senate Parliamentarian to discuss a rule violation that could doom the entire House reconciliation proposal.

DON STEWART, McCONNELL SPOKESMAN: “Republicans have been trying to set up a meeting with Senate Democrats since yesterday to discuss this fatal point of order but have been met with nothing but silence. We suspect Democrats are slow walking us so as to have the House vote first. Since Senate Democrats refuse to meet with us and the Parliamentarian, we’ve informed our colleagues in the House that we believe the bill they’re now considering violates the clear language of Section 310g of the Congressional Budget Act, and the entire reconciliation bill is subject to a point of order and rejection in the Senate should it pass the House.”

BACKGROUND

DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP RELEASE: “The Congressional Budget Office estimate of the health care legislation shows an increase in Social Security revenues… CBO projects that the resulting increase in wages will generate $29 billion in additional FICA contributions to the Social Security Trust Fund.” (“Health Care Reform Update,” Office of Rep. Steny Hoyer, 3/21/10) (http://majorityleader.house.gov/blog/blog.cfm?pressReleaseID=4024)
CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET ACT: “LIMITATION ON CHANGES TO THE SOCIAL SECURITY ACT.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any reconciliation bill or reconciliation resolution reported pursuant to a concurrent resolution on the budget agreed to under section 301 or 304, or a joint resolution pursuant to section 258C of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985, or any amendment thereto or conference report thereon, that contains recommendations with respect to the old-age, survivors, and disability insurance program established under title II of the Social Security Act.” (Congressional Budget Act Of 1974, Sec. 310g, P. 31) (http://budget.senate.gov/republican/analysis/2000/Laws&RulesInBudgetProcess.pdf#page=38)


Found here (http://republican.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_Id=6b53ad02-2d4b-4134-a08d-7c439defd83b)

SaintLouieWoman
03-22-2010, 07:59 AM
Sometimes you just have to love the lawyers, not often, but it would be greyt if the Dims are hung up on a fine point of law. They so obviously disregard the law of the land, have no respect for the constitution, that their rush to get anything passed might trip them up.

Not going to count on it, but maybe God is indeed watching over our country.

Swampfox
03-22-2010, 08:12 AM
We'll see, but my understanding is that the Senate bill has passed and the President can and will sign it into law regardless of whether the reconciliation bill passes.

megimoo
03-22-2010, 08:20 AM
Sometimes you just have to love the lawyers, not often, but it would be greyt if the Dims are hung up on a fine point of law. They so obviously disregard the law of the land, have no respect for the constitution, that their rush to get anything passed might trip them up.

Not going to count on it, but maybe God is indeed watching over our country.Don't count on it .These
slimy lawyers only come in one flavor,devious and 'back stabbing'.They will posture and pose but all along the 'fix' was in.They've even anticipate an uprising and have taken precautions to 'snuff' it out .

Nappy has a file on every conservative and patriotic group in America and we take 'top' priority over even Muslim bent on killing American's in this formerly great country of ours.They fear the people as well they should.

sgrooms
03-22-2010, 08:34 AM
I agree. Healthcare is the law of the land. The reconciliation bill is simply a way to fix what the house sees wrong with the senate bill. The only way this stops is if it is overturned in the courts or repealed by a future Congress.

The game is over for now.

PoliCon
03-22-2010, 08:53 AM
We'll see, but my understanding is that the Senate bill has passed and the President can and will sign it into law regardless of whether the reconciliation bill passes.

and only a damn fool thought for a second that the senate dems would give up their bribes. :rolleyes:

namvet
03-22-2010, 08:55 AM
Pelosi said ram it thru even if cost your jobs in Nov. so be it. I just fired off a mail to mine and told her to stick her head between her legs and kiss her ass goodbye !!!!!

fettpett
03-22-2010, 10:04 AM
they couldn't give a shit about a small little trip up in rules, not when they completely ignore the US Constitution. ALL new Taxes HAVE to orginate in the House, yet this one didn't.
only way this can get over turned is if Congress changes hands and we have enough votes to override the Obassiah's Veto or the SC rules that it's unconstitutional