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rjas77
03-24-2010, 01:32 PM
Your support of Obama and his Bullshit plan requires everyone to buy health insurance whether they need it or not.

When I was in my 20's, and 30's I rarely went to the Dr. unless I needed to check something out. All my visits and lab work was paid out of pocket and I was money ahead for keeping myself healthy.

All that money went for things like a new car, college, investements, mortgage payments, etc...etc...etc

Fast forward to CommieObamaCare which you whole-heartedly support. Why should Americans be punished for being healthy?

Can you answer that one for me?

Megaguns91
03-24-2010, 02:19 PM
Your support of Obama and his Bullshit plan requires everyone to buy health insurance whether they need it or not.

When I was in my 20's, and 30's I rarely went to the Dr. unless I needed to check something out. All my visits and lab work was paid out of pocket and I was money ahead for keeping myself healthy.

All that money went for things like a new car, college, investements, mortgage payments, etc...etc...etc

Fast forward to CommieObamaCare which you whole-heartedly support. Why should Americans be punished for being healthy?

Can you answer that one for me?

Because in Soviet America, Car drive you!

wilbur
03-24-2010, 02:25 PM
Your support of Obama and his Bullshit plan requires everyone to buy health insurance whether they need it or not.

When I was in my 20's, and 30's I rarely went to the Dr. unless I needed to check something out. All my visits and lab work was paid out of pocket and I was money ahead for keeping myself healthy.

All that money went for things like a new car, college, investements, mortgage payments, etc...etc...etc

Fast forward to CommieObamaCare which you whole-heartedly support. Why should Americans be punished for being healthy?

Can you answer that one for me?

Do you know how much twenty and thirty somethings will have to pay, under the new healthcare plan?

noonwitch
03-24-2010, 02:54 PM
I'm a union member, my health insurance is a benefit that I earn. I pay a little for my dental, and nothing for health or vision, the latter of which I don't even need (although that could change as I get older). If nothing else, it's the one thing the union negotiates for us that actually is worth the dues I pay.

If 20 and 30 somethings could get my insurance plan (Blue Care Network) for a low cost, that would be a good thing because it covers pretty much everything that a young adult needs-exams, diagnostic procedures, anesthesia, surgery, etc. Even the prescription copay is like $10, less at some pharmacies like Meijer. Plus, antibiotics are free at Meijer for anyone, insured or not.

rjas77
03-24-2010, 02:57 PM
Do you know how much twenty and thirty somethings will have to pay, under the new healthcare plan?

No..Do you?

rjas77
03-24-2010, 03:01 PM
If 20 and 30 somethings could get my insurance plan (Blue Care Network) for a low cost, that would be a good thing because it covers pretty much everything that a young adult needs-exams, diagnostic procedures, anesthesia, surgery, etc. Even the prescription copay is like $10, less at some pharmacies like Meijer. Plus, antibiotics are free at Meijer for anyone, insured or not.

A 20 or 30 something doesn't need the coverage you have....Seriously...All they need is catistrophic coverage, which is fairly cheap.

But no...With Obama's plan...We're going to be forced to pay for health care insurance wheter we need it or not.

Wei Wu Wei
03-24-2010, 03:39 PM
I'm a union member, my health insurance is a benefit that I earn. I pay a little for my dental, and nothing for health or vision, the latter of which I don't even need (although that could change as I get older). If nothing else, it's the one thing the union negotiates for us that actually is worth the dues I pay.

If 20 and 30 somethings could get my insurance plan (Blue Care Network) for a low cost, that would be a good thing because it covers pretty much everything that a young adult needs-exams, diagnostic procedures, anesthesia, surgery, etc. Even the prescription copay is like $10, less at some pharmacies like Meijer. Plus, antibiotics are free at Meijer for anyone, insured or not.

Union? More like Socialist Mafia.

Lager
03-24-2010, 05:09 PM
Do you know how much twenty and thirty somethings will have to pay, under the new healthcare plan?

It depends more on annual income, than age, does it not?

fettpett
03-24-2010, 05:43 PM
A 20 or 30 something doesn't need the coverage you have....Seriously...All they need is catistrophic coverage, which is fairly cheap.

But no...With Obama's plan...We're going to be forced to pay for health care insurance wheter we need it or not.

I have to disagree. but only to a point. I'm 27 married and have 3 kids. I need coverage for them. For just my wife and I to have coverage (which we don't anymore) is almost 300/month for the bare minimum.

HOWEVER if I was single, I wouldn't give a shit about insurance and wouldn't have it.


Union? More like Socialist Mafia.

I agree. My Union was nothing but a POS that spent 1.2 million on getting this fucktard elected instead of using that money to help us out when the Layoffs came not more than a month after the election. On top of that we had Eye Care and Dental that we couldn't even USE when we were laidoff even though we had a 6 week bank that we PAID for. fucking asinine

Nubs
03-24-2010, 05:57 PM
I have to disagree. but only to a point. I'm 27 married and have 3 kids. I need coverage for them. For just my wife and I to have coverage (which we don't anymore) is almost 300/month for the bare minimum.

HOWEVER if I was single, I wouldn't give a shit about insurance and wouldn't have it.



I agree. My Union was nothing but a POS that spent 1.2 million on getting this fucktard elected instead of using that money to help us out when the Layoffs came not more than a month after the election. On top of that we had Eye Care and Dental that we couldn't even USE when we were laidoff even though we had a 6 week bank that we PAID for. fucking asinine

Starting in 2013, if you make more than $88,000, you will have to pay 9.8% of your income for health insurance.

Wei Wu Wei
03-24-2010, 06:01 PM
Starting in 2013, if you make more than $88,000, you will have to pay 9.8% of your income for health insurance.

fettpett, is 300/month more or less than 9.8% of your income?

Nubs
03-24-2010, 06:10 PM
Regardless of what his income is, a person making $88,000 with a $300/month policy pays $3600 per year. Under the new plan, the same person will have to fork over $8624 for an increase of $5,024. But I thought The Magical O was not going to increase anyone's taxes, earning under $200,000/yr, one single dime. I guess The Magical O was right, he did not increase it a "single" dime, he increased it by 50,240 dimes.

Wei Wu Wei
03-24-2010, 06:11 PM
Regardless of what his income is, a person making $88,000 with a $300/month policy pays $3600 per year. Under the new plan, the same person will have to fork over $8624 for an increase of $5,024. But I thought The Magical O was not going to increase anyone's taxes, earning under $200,000/yr, one single dime. I guess The Magical O was right, he did not increase it a "single" dime, he increased it by 50,240 dimes.

Thanks my math circuit blew out

Megaguns91
03-24-2010, 06:23 PM
Thanks my math circuit blew out

The big O can fix it for ya!

fettpett
03-24-2010, 07:16 PM
fettpett, is 300/month more or less than 9.8% of your income?

doesn't matter, I'm unemployed now due to the auto industry's(Read GM) complete melt down. The place I worked at made the window frames for the Cadillac CTS and Buick Enclave (both of them are pieces of shit btw, don't buy one made before 2011). shitty job but it paid the bills.

what was sad was 8 months prior to the door closing the Obaidiot got elected and all those people were happy and extactic he won...all i did was shake my head and think "this is how freedom dies"

rjas77
03-24-2010, 07:23 PM
I have to disagree. but only to a point. I'm 27 married and have 3 kids. I need coverage for them. For just my wife and I to have coverage (which we don't anymore) is almost 300/month for the bare minimum.

HOWEVER if I was single, I wouldn't give a shit about insurance and wouldn't have it.

Ok Fine..But who's responsibility is if to see that your family has health care? Your's or mine?


But the main point of my post was that people who don't need to buy health care will be forced to buy into the plan regardless and if they don't they are penalized...and that is so wrong in so many ways

Nubs
03-24-2010, 07:46 PM
It is his responsibility to pay for his healyhcare and my responsibility to pay for mine. Howerver The Magical O feels I need to pay for others too.