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CaughtintheMiddle1990
04-01-2010, 03:24 AM
What's your opinion on infidelity? Do you think there are any circumstances in which it is excusable, or justified? Are there any reasons which would make infidelity not a heinous act?

Sonnabend
04-01-2010, 05:15 AM
What's your opinion on infidelity? Do you think there are any circumstances in which it is excusable, or justified? Are there any reasons which would make infidelity not a heinous act?

...and your reasons for asking a loaded question like this are...?

FlaGator
04-01-2010, 06:05 AM
What's your opinion on infidelity? Do you think there are any circumstances in which it is excusable, or justified? Are there any reasons which would make infidelity not a heinous act?

Can you name for me a positive result from adultery in which no one is emotionally harmed? Don't use hypothetical situations, just a positive aspect in the average case of adultery.

lacarnut
04-01-2010, 06:42 AM
Another screwball question by a screwball.

FlaGator
04-01-2010, 07:48 AM
Another screwball question by a screwball.

He just a kid, very little real life experience yet.

FlaGator
04-01-2010, 08:01 AM
To serious of a discussion for the lounge

Gingersnap
04-01-2010, 05:28 PM
There is no justification for adultery no more than there is a justification for slapping your spouse senseless for no apparent reason.

That's not to say that marriages can't survive infidelity - they are just always radically changed by the act.

Often, you hear a person say that he or she got "swept up" in an adulterous affair or that he or she "didn't expect to fall in love". Both these assertions are probably true from the point of view of adulterous mate but they are also completely preventable.

People who fall asleep at the wheel and kill a family of four never intended to finish their night in the back of a police car and they never would have if they'd pulled into a rest stop and had a nap. ;)

Rockntractor
04-01-2010, 05:34 PM
There is no justification for adultery no more than there is a justification for slapping your spouse senseless for no apparent reason.

That's not to say that marriages can't survive infidelity - they are just always radically changed by the act.

Often, you hear a person say that he or she got "swept up" in an adulterous affair or that he or she "didn't expect to fall in love". Both these assertions are probably true from the point of view of adulterous mate but they are also completely preventable.

People who fall asleep at the wheel and kill a family of four never intended to finish their night in the back of a police car and they never would have if they'd pulled into a rest stop and had a nap. ;)

Not that I ever would but how could you slap a woman senseless. Wouldn't that be like trying to make water wetter?:confused:

Megaguns91
04-01-2010, 05:39 PM
Not that I ever would but how could you slap a woman senseless. Wouldn't that be like trying to make water wetter?:confused:

:eek:
I don't think Mr. Snaps is a woman, Rock. :p


On a more serious note, adultery and affairs are absolutely inexcusable. The end.

Kay
04-01-2010, 05:40 PM
What's your opinion on infidelity?
Do you think there are any circumstances in which it is excusable, or justified?
Are there any reasons which would make infidelity not a heinous act?

Unforgettable & Unforgivable.
No.
No.

Rockntractor
04-01-2010, 05:42 PM
:eek:
I don't think Mr. Snaps is a woman, Rock. :p


On a more serious note, adultery and affairs are absolutely inexcusable. The end.

She didn't say her spouse!

Constitutionally Speaking
04-01-2010, 05:57 PM
There is no justification for adultery no more than there is a justification for slapping your spouse senseless for no apparent reason.

That's not to say that marriages can't survive infidelity - they are just always radically changed by the act.

Often, you hear a person say that he or she got "swept up" in an adulterous affair or that he or she "didn't expect to fall in love". Both these assertions are probably true from the point of view of adulterous mate but they are also completely preventable.

People who fall asleep at the wheel and kill a family of four never intended to finish their night in the back of a police car and they never would have if they'd pulled into a rest stop and had a nap. ;)


Exactly. ALL such things can be avoided by not allowing yourself to be put in a situation that could lead to infidelity.

Articulate_Ape
04-01-2010, 06:00 PM
I would say that if a partner in a marriage engages in infidelity, then it cannot correctly be called a marriage anymore? Now maybe it can become a marriage again if the infidelity stops and the other partner is willing to forgive the betrayal, but barring that it stops being a marriage and becomes a business relationship to be maintained for common financial benefit or to be dissolved.

Speedy
04-01-2010, 06:03 PM
My first wife was a serial adultress. I loved this woman so completely that her infidelities really changed my outlook on things. I never allow myself to fall in love like that again and if I do, I am not going to be the one that gets cheated on first.

Gingersnap
04-01-2010, 06:04 PM
Exactly. ALL such things can be avoided by not allowing yourself to be put in a situation that could lead to infidelity.

Absolutely. The Roman Catholics have a handy term for these situations: occasions of sin. An occasion of sin doesn't cause the sin nor would a sin automatically happen on those occasions but the odds go way, way up. It's the Progressive Slot Machine of Sin.

But if you never step in the casino (or even drive down that street), you're odds of being left in peace are good.

Speedy
04-01-2010, 06:16 PM
Absolutely. The Roman Catholics have a handy term for these situations: occasions of sin. An occasion of sin doesn't cause the sin nor would a sin automatically happen on those occasions but the odds go way, way up. It's the Progressive Slot Machine of Sin.

But if you never step in the casino (or even drive down that street), you're odds of being left in peace are good.

Something my old always used to say was, "Never find yourself alone in a motel room with a woman who is not your mother or daughter or sister, because you are gonna fuck. Does not matter if she is your brother's wife, best friend's girl or your wife."

Gingersnap
04-01-2010, 06:24 PM
Something my old always used to say was, "Never find yourself alone in a motel room with a woman who is not your mother or daughter or sister, because you are gonna fuck. Does not matter if she is your brother's wife, best friend's girl or your wife."

Words to live by, Speedy. ;)

Speedy
04-01-2010, 06:32 PM
Words to live by, Speedy. ;)

And proven true.

Apache
04-01-2010, 06:44 PM
Unforgettable & Unforgivable.
No.
No.

Ditto...

CaughtintheMiddle1990
04-01-2010, 08:26 PM
but barring that it stops being a marriage and becomes a business relationship to be maintained for common financial benefit.

Like Bill and Hillary or FDR and Eleanor?

FlaGator
04-01-2010, 09:22 PM
Something my old always used to say was, "Never find yourself alone in a motel room with a woman who is not your mother or daughter or sister, because you are gonna fuck. Does not matter if she is your brother's wife, best friend's girl or your wife."

But if you're in a motel room with a girl you're not really alone are you :confused:

Big Guy
04-01-2010, 09:27 PM
Southern Ten Commandments

And much easier to remember!!!

Ten Commandments

Some people have trouble with all those 'shall's' and 'shall not's' in the
Ten Commandments.. Folks just aren't used to talking in those terms. So,
in middle Tennessee they translated the 'King James' into ' Jackson
County ' language.....no joke (posted on the wall at Cross Trails Church
in Gainesboro, TN ).

(1) Just one God
(2) Put nothin' before God
(3) Watch yer mouth
(4) Git yourself to Sunday meetin'
(5) Honor yer Ma & Pa
(6) No killin'
(7) No foolin' around with another fellow's gal
(8) Don't take what ain't yers
(9) No tellin' tales or gossipin'
(10) Don't be hankerin' for yer buddy's stuff

Now that's plain an' simple. Y'all have a nice day!

Gingersnap
04-01-2010, 09:41 PM
Like Bill and Hillary or FDR and Eleanor?

Let's not confuse accommodation with ambition.

Ape's remarks come from a more individualistic viewpoint (I think). He is pointing out that emotionally an infidelity can completely destroy the definition we have of marriage today but some couples can work around that.

The couples you mention (and millions of others down through history) entered marriage with an eye to furthering personal and familial ambition. Infidelity in those marriages is often expected so long as it's discreet.

Bubba Dawg
04-01-2010, 09:46 PM
Fidelity.

All the promises made before God to each other in the wedding vow, (and).... til death do us part, and therefore I plight thee my troth.

That is a solemn vow.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
04-01-2010, 09:48 PM
I would say that if a partner in a marriage engages in infidelity, then it cannot correctly be called a marriage anymore? Now maybe it can become a marriage again if the infidelity stops and the other partner is willing to forgive the betrayal, but barring that it stops being a marriage and becomes a business relationship to be maintained for common financial benefit or to be dissolved.


Let's not confuse accommodation with ambition.

Ape's remarks come from a more individualistic viewpoint (I think). He is pointing out that emotionally an infidelity can completely destroy the definition we have of marriage today but some couples can work around that.

The couples you mention (and millions of others down through history) entered marriage with an eye to furthering personal and familial ambition. Infidelity in those marriages is often expected so long as it's discreet.

While I'd say that was true for Bill and Hillary (I've read there wasn't any real passion in their marriag, even in the beginning--more of a mutual admiration for the other's talents/intelligence) but with FDR and Eleanor there was a deep passion and love which died when she discovered FDR's affair. She wanted to divorce him but was strongly warned by FDR's mother, and so decided to stay married but kept out of his life--she wasn't even with him when he died, his girlfriend was and her reaction to his death was rather cold.

Rockntractor
04-01-2010, 09:49 PM
Fidelity.

All the promises made before God to each other in the wedding vow, (and).... til death do us part, and therefore I plight thee my troth.

That is a solemn vow.

With us pigs it is trough!

Bubba Dawg
04-01-2010, 09:50 PM
With us pigs it is trough!

Plow that trough Rock. Plough that trough. :D

Articulate_Ape
04-01-2010, 09:56 PM
Like Bill and Hillary or FDR and Eleanor?

Or JFK and Jacqueline. Let's face it, she knew just like the others you mentioned. However, JFK didn't care. Seems he needed Jackie's attention like he needed a hole in the head.

stsinner
04-01-2010, 10:30 PM
I don't know.. If you marry someone, but you really end up liking someone else, and they will screw you, then why not...

Rockntractor
04-01-2010, 10:31 PM
I don't know.. If you marry someone, but you really end up liking someone else, and they will screw you, then why not...
Your bored aren't you!:D

Gingersnap
04-01-2010, 10:39 PM
While I'd say that was true for Bill and Hillary (I've read there wasn't any real passion in their marriag, even in the beginning--more of a mutual admiration for the other's talents/intelligence) but with FDR and Eleanor there was a deep passion and love which died when she discovered FDR's affair. She wanted to divorce him but was strongly warned by FDR's mother, and so decided to stay married but kept out of his life--she wasn't even with him when he died, his girlfriend was and her reaction to his death was rather cold.

You make my point. However passionate Eleanor may have been initially, she was very much a product of her class. Her divorce threat was most likely just that - a threat. Her wagon was firmly hitched to FDR's own ambitions. Neither of their families would have supported a divorce and both of their political careers would have been destroyed.

There's no reason why an ambitious couple can't enjoy each other (at least at first).

Rockntractor
04-01-2010, 10:41 PM
You make my point. However passionate Eleanor may have been initially, she was very much a product of her class. Her divorce threat was most likely just that - a threat. Her wagon was firmly hitched to FDR's own ambitions. Neither of their families would have supported a divorce and both of their political careers would have been destroyed.

There's no reason why an ambitious couple can't enjoy each other (at least at first).
Her wagon was hitched and it was a gooseneck!

NJCardFan
04-02-2010, 12:15 AM
What's your opinion on infidelity? Do you think there are any circumstances in which it is excusable, or justified? Are there any reasons which would make infidelity not a heinous act?

I guess CITM has another homework assignment.

But, ask my first wife. She obviously thought it was excusable or justified.

But to answer the question, no. You take vows for a reason.

NJCardFan
04-02-2010, 12:20 AM
I don't know.. If you marry someone, but you really end up liking someone else, and they will screw you, then why not...

Ask this question again when it happens to you, k? Only scumbag assholes are unfaithful. If I ruffled a few feathers here with that, I could give a flying fuck. It's doubly worse when you have children.

RobJohnson
04-02-2010, 02:24 AM
Absolutely. The Roman Catholics have a handy term for these situations: occasions of sin. An occasion of sin doesn't cause the sin nor would a sin automatically happen on those occasions but the odds go way, way up. It's the Progressive Slot Machine of Sin.

But if you never step in the casino (or even drive down that street), you're odds of being left in peace are good.

Very true.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
04-02-2010, 03:01 AM
You make my point. However passionate Eleanor may have been initially, she was very much a product of her class. Her divorce threat was most likely just that - a threat. Her wagon was firmly hitched to FDR's own ambitions. Neither of their families would have supported a divorce and both of their political careers would have been destroyed.

There's no reason why an ambitious couple can't enjoy each other (at least at first).


Ask this question again when it happens to you, k? Only scumbag assholes are unfaithful. If I ruffled a few feathers here with that, I could give a flying fuck. It's doubly worse when you have children.

What if the man's wife or woman's husband is an utter asshole, but does not want to divorce them or separate for the sake of the children (having an intact family) or have no other options?

NJCardFan
04-02-2010, 03:29 AM
What if the man's wife or woman's husband is an utter asshole, but does not want to divorce them or separate for the sake of the children (having an intact family) or have no other options?
I, (Bride/Groom), take you (Groom/Bride), to be my (wife/husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.

Not much gray area in the above.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
04-02-2010, 03:40 AM
I, (Bride/Groom), take you (Groom/Bride), to be my (wife/husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.

Not much gray area in the above.

Sure there is. You enter into the above contract (as besides the religious component, marriage is by nature a contract) under circumstances one would consider acceptable--or would at the time believe the circumstances to be. Put in plain English, a person may think the person they're marrying is different than the person they ultimately end up marrying, if that makes sense. I've known examples of this in real life--wherein the person they married turned out, after they were married, to be very different from the person they entered into the contract with--the ''other shoe'' dropped.

What do you do in such cases? On religious grounds, divorce is just as bad--At least according to the Christian perspective--as adultery.

Speedy
04-02-2010, 03:51 AM
What if the man's wife or woman's husband is an utter asshole, but does not want to divorce them or separate for the sake of the children (having an intact family) or have no other options?


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y236/speed_addiction/Carlota.jpg


This one literally ripped my heart out of my chest, took a big bloody bite, threw it on the floor and stomped it to paste. She was a serial adultress. And was ruthless. Her and her lover hired an assassin to kill me. When I shot the assassin in the neck and chest she backed off and shared my bed for another year. The whole time I never suspected her. When I confronted her about it, she confessed to everything.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
04-02-2010, 04:03 AM
I, (Bride/Groom), take you (Groom/Bride), to be my (wife/husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.

Not much gray area in the above.


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y236/speed_addiction/Carlota.jpg


This one literally ripped my heart out of my chest, took a big bloody bite, threw it on the floor and stomped it to paste. She was a serial adultress. And was ruthless. Her and her lover hired an assassin to kill me. When I shot the assassin in the neck and chest she backed off and shared my bed for another year. The whole time I never suspected her. When I confronted her about it, she confessed to everything.

And after she confessed?

Speedy
04-02-2010, 04:11 AM
And after she confessed?

I stayed with her a couple of months. I was ouot on bail and was going to go to prison for a long time. I did not turn her in or anything. It was bad enough for my daughters that their dad was going to prison. They did not need their mom in prison also.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
04-02-2010, 04:20 AM
I stayed with her a couple of months. I was ouot on bail and was going to go to prison for a long time. I did not turn her in or anything. It was bad enough for my daughters that their dad was going to prison. They did not need their mom in prison also.

I'm sorry to hear about all that--sounds like a very dark time in your life. That's very giving of you that would you put up with this woman for the sake of your children.

I've been cheated on before by a former girlfriend, once with two guys, one of whom wanted to kill me but she narrowly stopped him. Ironically, the guy she finally chose over me she chose because he was ''tougher'' than me--And he ended up beating her mercilessly and cheating on her chronically over the next two and a half years that they remained together.

It's rather ironic. I've been called ''girly'' by two women; The men they chose over me either a) beat or cheated on them or b) used them sexually.

Just recently, a girl I loved for YEARS, and a girl whose family loves me rejected me for this guy--a marine.She's called him the ''one.'' He's a bit of an asshole though, very arrogant about his status as a marine (well, not technically a marine yet but in training). He recently came out to me and allowed his friend to trash he,r proudly proclaiming he fucked her and that since he fucked her and took her virginity she was ''used'' now and I could ''have her'', and that she was a ''wild fuck.'' When I asked why he'd let his friend talk about her like that, he said because like him the guy is a marine and thus his brother and when I asked what he loved more, the marines or her, he said ''the marines, without hesitation.''

Her former boyfriends were:

1) A gang member who fathered a child at 14. He dumped her because she wouldn't ''put out'' and got bored of the relationship.
2) A guy who is currently in jail for helping murder a friend of mine. They went out for months, and he ended up dumping her because she wouldn't ''put out.''

This is a girl who proclaimed to me he (the current guy) was the sweetest guy ever, the ''one'', etc etc. Maybe it's girly of me, but if my friend--any friend--talked about my girlfriend like a whore, they would get a beating and would no longer be my friend.

Speedy
04-02-2010, 04:43 AM
She is with this guy and he treats her like shit. She is still as gorgeous and still has the hot bod. I have slept with her twice over the past couple of years. It was not really that great. Not like it used to be. I guess the fact that I loved her was what made it so good back then. She wanted to kill me to be with someone else. Leaving wasn't good enough. She wanted me dead. Kinda hard to look past that even when I fuck her, I guess.

It really screwed me up though. I did not do the rebound thing. It was over six years between her and my next woman. I was with my next wife for 7 years. And it was not fair to her, but I could not hand her my heart the way I did to Carly. Not after what had been done to it before. It was a wall between Yvette and me that she got tired of chipping at after 7 years.

linda22003
04-02-2010, 08:30 AM
While I'd say that was true for Bill and Hillary (I've read there wasn't any real passion in their marriag, even in the beginning--more of a mutual admiration for the other's talents/intelligence) but with FDR and Eleanor there was a deep passion and love which died when she discovered FDR's affair. She wanted to divorce him but was strongly warned by FDR's mother

Not quite. Sara Delano Roosevelt was not a person to be messed with, and when Eleanor offered Franklin his "freedom", Sara made it quite clear that the purse that was open to Franklin was going to snap closed. She held the wealth in the family (indeed, she brought a lot of it to the Roosevelts from the Delano shipping fortune), and he chose to listen to mommy.

http://www.presidentialtimeline.org/html/images/objects/1629_lg.jpg

Gingersnap
04-02-2010, 10:27 AM
What if the man's wife or woman's husband is an utter asshole, but does not want to divorce them or separate for the sake of the children (having an intact family) or have no other options?

"Assholery" isn't really a reason to divorce. Legally, there is no requirement for a consensus to divorce. Either party can initiate divorce proceedings for any reason. In fact, most divorces are intiated by women and about a third of those are a complete surprise to the man.


Sure there is. You enter into the above contract (as besides the religious component, marriage is by nature a contract) under circumstances one would consider acceptable--or would at the time believe the circumstances to be. Put in plain English, a person may think the person they're marrying is different than the person they ultimately end up marrying, if that makes sense. I've known examples of this in real life--wherein the person they married turned out, after they were married, to be very different from the person they entered into the contract with--the ''other shoe'' dropped.

What do you do in such cases? On religious grounds, divorce is just as bad--At least according to the Christian perspective--as adultery.

It's impossible to state a "Christian perspective" on divorce. In very traditional Christian denominations divorce can only be undertaken in specific circumstances like incest and adultery. Divorce is always granted when incest comes to light. With adultery (today anyway) the couple will be strongly urged to accept religious counseling with an eye to repentance (from the sinner) and forgiveness (from the victim). If that doesn't work, a permanent separation is usually advised.

Less traditional denominations will accept divorce in cases of adultery, abuse, or chronic addiction.

Liberal Christians generally have no views on divorce that different from the standards of secular community.

As far people "changing" after marriage, this is why traditional Christians generally go in for that whole premarital counseling thing and also why they urge a lot of discussion and interaction between the families of the couple. If you know how your girlfriend's (boyfriend's) family view religion and marriage and family, you know quite a bit. The prohibition against premarital sex also play out here. Sex makes people lose their minds and they make decisions that they might not make without that pleasure. ;)

Sonnabend
04-02-2010, 10:51 AM
Just recently, a girl I loved for YEARS, and a girl whose family loves me rejected me for this guy--a marine.She's called him the ''one.'' He's a bit of an asshole though, very arrogant about his status as a marine (well, not technically a marine yet but in training). He recently came out to me and allowed his friend to trash he,r proudly proclaiming he fucked her and that since he fucked her and took her virginity she was ''used'' now and I could ''have her'', and that she was a ''wild fuck.'' When I asked why he'd let his friend talk about her like that, he said because like him the guy is a marine and thus his brother and when I asked what he loved more, the marines or her, he said ''the marines, without hesitation.''

...is anyone else besides me a little dubious about this?

NJCardFan
04-02-2010, 11:06 AM
And after she confessed?

Nice of you to quote the vows I posted. But the solution is, get a divorce. But I give Speedy credit for honoring his vows. But, you are an idiot. There is no gray area in the vows. It's precise and to the point. There is no, I, (Bride/Groom), take you (Groom/Bride), to be my (wife/husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, unless someone better comes along, for better or for worse, unless the worse outdoes the better, for richer, for poorer, unless someone richer comes along, in sickness and in health, but if you get sick...well you know..I have needs to fulfill, to love and to cherish; unless I want to love and cherish someone else, from this day forward, or until I get bored, until death do us part, or I leave you for someone else, whichever comes first. And as you can see, in the original vows I posted, there is nothing religious about them. They are traditional vows. But if you don't think you can uphold the vows you took, then don't get married. It's as simple as that. Marriage isn't just something you do because it's the thing to do. It's supposed to be a lifetime commitment. But it's people like you with attitudes like yours that is destroying the sacredness that is marriage.

NJCardFan
04-02-2010, 11:13 AM
Wait a minute. I just caught something:

What do you do in such cases? On religious grounds, divorce is just as bad--At least according to the Christian perspective--as adultery.
Wow. You're a bigger idiot than I thought. Let me get this straight. You're saying that on "religious grounds" that divorce is looked down upon, right? So you're solution to being in a bad marriage is to commit wanton adultery? Speaking directly in a religious sense, is there something about the 7th commandment you don't understand?

Kay
04-02-2010, 11:28 AM
Speedy, CITM, your conversation above is just warped.
I never could understand drama magnets.

We have full control over what we let into or keep out of our lives.
I have a very low tolarance for drama. It's like a cancer that spreads
to every other area of your life once you let it in.

linda22003
04-02-2010, 11:38 AM
...is anyone else besides me a little dubious about this?

About loving the Marines more? I know some of these old "Semper Fi" guys, so, no. :p

linda22003
04-02-2010, 11:43 AM
So you're solution to being in a bad marriage is to commit wonton adultery?

What's that, adultery in a Chinese restaurant? :cool:

djones520
04-02-2010, 11:44 AM
What's that, adultery in a Chinese restaurant? :cool:

I'll admit it, that made me laugh.

Rebel Yell
04-02-2010, 11:55 AM
CITM,

Real women don't need two pussies. The one God gave them is usually enough.

NJCardFan
04-02-2010, 11:56 AM
What's that, adultery in a Chinese restaurant? :cool:

You don't get laid much do you? Sorry for being so imperfect and being human and making a mistake. Now take your snide comment and shove it up your ass.

linda22003
04-02-2010, 11:58 AM
Hey, it was funny. You specifically referred to a type of Chinese dumpling. You'll be equally annoyed to hear that my sex life is just fine. :p

Gingersnap
04-02-2010, 12:01 PM
Dude - it really was funny. :D

It's not like we all haven't typed fodder for the resident wits here.

NJCardFan
04-02-2010, 12:02 PM
Hey, it was funny. You specifically referred to a type of Chinese dumpling. You'll be equally annoyed to hear that my sex life is just fine. :p

A battery operated buddy doesn't count. And no, I didn't specifically refer to anything. To specifically refer means that there was intent of the word. What I did is commonly known as a typo. This happened because unlike you, I'm a human being and subject to mistakes once in a while. I see grammar and spelling errors all the time but don't believe myself to be the grammar police. I'm not that anal.

linda22003
04-02-2010, 12:44 PM
Dude - it really was funny. :D

It's not like we all haven't typed fodder for the resident wits here.

Nice try, but someone's decided to be cranky today. Why do guys think they can get a rise out of women by assuming they don't "get laid"? :p It's so cliche, so predictable, so silly.

Gingersnap
04-02-2010, 01:22 PM
Nice try, but someone's decided to be cranky today. Why do guys think they can get a rise out of women by assuming they don't "get laid"? :p It's so cliche, so predictable, so silly.

You make an interesting point. Every single woman under 80 who still has all four limbs can get laid pretty much anytime, anywhere. :D

Speedy
04-02-2010, 01:28 PM
You make an interesting point. Every single woman under 80 who still has all four limbs can get laid pretty much anytime, anywhere. :D

That is an out and out lie! She could be missing a limb and still get laid!

Gingersnap
04-02-2010, 01:36 PM
That is an out and out lie! She could be missing a limb and still get laid!

LOL! True. My bad. :p

linda22003
04-02-2010, 02:02 PM
That is an out and out lie! She could be missing a limb and still get laid!

In fact, I've heard some guys have a fetish for that. Penthouse used to have a whole category of letters devoted to it.
Face it, all a woman has to do, pretty much, is show up.

Speedy
04-02-2010, 02:07 PM
In fact, I've heard some guys have a fetish for that. Penthouse used to have a whole category of letters devoted to it.
Face it, all a woman has to do, pretty much, is show up.

I don't get that whole "fetish" thing. Boobs and proper plumbing is all required for me.

Kay
04-02-2010, 02:24 PM
You see young CITM, it's like this:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/kaycrawford/SonsomedayMarines.jpg?t=1270232466

Speedy
04-02-2010, 02:32 PM
You see young CITM, it's like this:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/kaycrawford/SonsomedayMarines.jpg?t=1270232466

I have great respect for the Marines but it has been my family tradition to serve in the Army. My ancestors have served since Texas was fighting for it's independence. The earliest one that we know of fought at the Battle of Goliad.

Kay
04-02-2010, 02:45 PM
I have great respect for the Marines but it has been my family tradition to serve in the Army. My ancestors have served since Texas was fighting for it's independence. The earliest one that we know of fought at the Battle of Goliad.

Awesome.

I was married once to a Marine.
It was my experience that they don't generally make good husband material.

Articulate_Ape
04-02-2010, 03:07 PM
Awesome.

I was married once to a Marine.
It was my experience that they don't generally make good husband material.

Or you married above your pay grade. :p

Kay
04-02-2010, 03:19 PM
Or you married above your pay grade. :p

More like beneath.

I guess I should retract that earlier statement,
I've know a lot of Marines that are great husbands.
It was not the case in my particular experience.

Rockntractor
04-02-2010, 04:17 PM
You make an interesting point. Every single woman under 80 who still has all four limbs can get laid pretty much anytime, anywhere. :D
Linda would fit that window.

noonwitch
04-05-2010, 11:39 AM
Something my old always used to say was, "Never find yourself alone in a motel room with a woman who is not your mother or daughter or sister, because you are gonna fuck. Does not matter if she is your brother's wife, best friend's girl or your wife."



I was given similar, yet case specific advice once from an older female coworker once:

Don't ever take in a male friend for the night, after he just broke up with your female friend, even if he sleeps on the couch. He's going to tell the female friend he had sex with you, even if he didn't, and she's going to believe him, not you. Although I didn't allow that male friend to crash on my couch, he still told my friend that he had sex with me.


I'm sure somewhere there is a situation involving infidelity in which I would say it was justified, but I can't think of one off-hand. I'm not particularly judgmental about other people's relationships, after observing a 25 year marriage between my parents in which one party was basically allowed to sleep with whomever as long as he paid for the other to wear designer clothes and let the kids talk back to him.

M21
04-05-2010, 11:59 AM
Unforgettable & Unforgivable.
No.
No.

QFT.

Sonnabend
04-05-2010, 07:18 PM
NJCardfan: If she hadnt said, I would have. And I am annoyed because she beat me to it.:D:D

It was a funny.

Lighten up.