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Carol
04-01-2010, 10:03 PM
link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8071794)

I wonder how many people do not go the the ER because the left has been telling them for years that if they have no health insurance they cannot and will not recieve health care?



Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-01-10 08:19 PM
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This crap has got to stop!

A friends brother died last week at the age of 44. He died of pneumonia. I have had that disease and it will lay a person out, but with proper medical care, it usually isn't fatal. But that's the thing, this man had no medical care because HE COULDN'T AFFORD INSURANCE! He had the opportunity to get some, but it was half of his weekly pay check. And this guy decided to pay rent and support his children. Of course now he can't support anyone. So fuck anyone who says we don't need at least a medicare buy in for all people. A guy who has been fairly healthy all his life should not die and leave two children and an ex wife behind simply because he couldn't afford insurance.

sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-01-10 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
6. My husband had pneumonia last week too

And got to go to the doctor because we have subsidized insurance. And your friend would have likely had a subsidy too, if we had passed something like this ten years ago.

Waiting for a medicare buy-in, which would have been half your friend's paycheck anyway, only guarantees more people will die waiting.

Wei Wu Wei
04-02-2010, 06:12 PM
Oh god you're serious aren't you.

If you're dying you call 911 or do the best you can to get help. No one sits there having a heart attack and says "let's wait it out, i'm not sure how the money thing works at the ER i dont want to risk being told no".

I can just imagine someone sitting there slowly dying in pain, never having even tried calling 911 because they heard a thing.

Are you suggesting these people didn't go to the ER when their condition became an emergency?

Pneumonia usually develops from milder conditions that most people do not seek treatment for because it is too expensive. Let it run it's course without treatment, by the time you get to an emergency room there's a significant chance of death.

:mad: RARRGGHH THOOOSE LIIBEERALLLLSSS :mad:

Wei Wu Wei
04-02-2010, 06:13 PM
My cousin died last week because of "the left" :mad:

The Left says government should provide everything for you so my poor cousin laid down on his face and died of dehydration while waiting for his handout.

Damn it Left. When I see that Left I'm going to kick it's ass!@

Wei Wu Wei
04-02-2010, 06:27 PM
Oh god no. Now the Right has killed my uncle. Oh noo. He heard the constant talk from the right about how he should 'pick himself up from his own bootstraps', and well...he tried to do it....he did it but it costed him his life. :(

Megaguns91
04-02-2010, 06:31 PM
Pneumonia is a slow progression illness.
(in most cases)

As for the liberals saying that they're dying because of no healthcare?

Give me a break.
Everything is always someone else's fault.

Novaheart
04-02-2010, 07:14 PM
Oh god you're serious aren't you.

If you're dying you call 911 or do the best you can to get help. No one sits there having a heart attack and says "let's wait it out, i'm not sure how the money thing works at the ER i dont want to risk being told no".

I can just imagine someone sitting there slowly dying in pain, never having even tried calling 911 because they heard a thing.

Are you suggesting these people didn't go to the ER when their condition became an emergency?

Pneumonia usually develops from milder conditions that most people do not seek treatment for because it is too expensive. Let it run it's course without treatment, by the time you get to an emergency room there's a significant chance of death.

:mad: RARRGGHH THOOOSE LIIBEERALLLLSSS :mad:

I can think of two occasions when I should have called 911 based on my symptoms, but didn't because I want to "wait and see" how bad off I was and was afraid that if I wasn't admitted, I would get hit with thousands of dollars in er bills.

Rockntractor
04-02-2010, 07:39 PM
Oh god no. Now the Right has killed my uncle. Oh noo. He heard the constant talk from the right about how he should 'pick himself up from his own bootstraps', and well...he tried to do it....he did it but it costed him his life. :(

Wei Wei that is enough magic mushrooms for one day, time to come down!:rolleyes:

Apache
04-03-2010, 12:54 PM
I smell a bouncy...

PoliCon
04-03-2010, 01:48 PM
Oh god no. Now the Right has killed my uncle. Oh noo. He heard the constant talk from the right about how he should 'pick himself up from his own bootstraps', and well...he tried to do it....he did it but it costed him his life. :(

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Apache
04-03-2010, 01:54 PM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/pleasrkitten80/fucktard.jpg

You scared Burt....BASTID :mad:

lacarnut
04-03-2010, 04:09 PM
Oh god you're serious aren't you.

If you're dying you call 911 or do the best you can to get help. No one sits there having a heart attack and says "let's wait it out, i'm not sure how the money thing works at the ER i dont want to risk being told no".



That is Obama's new health care plan. The government just can not afford to keep people alive for too long when they get sick. We will have more patients (31 million of them), fewer doctors and hospitals and for the first time in US history the government will decide whether or not that you are too sick or too old to LIVE. Population control at it's finest so that the old fuckers do not live to be a 100 years of age. Too costly for that to happen.

You liberal dumb shits want Universal Health commie care like in Canada and the EU. Well now you have it, and you will see the greatest health care system in the world ruined by DC bureaucrats.

PoliCon
04-03-2010, 10:00 PM
You scared Burt....BASTID :mad:

That's FARGING BASTID to you buddy. :mad:

Apache
04-03-2010, 11:27 PM
That's FARGING BASTID to you buddy. :mad:

Don't tell me what to say ya farging ashtray....:rolleyes:

Apocalypse
04-04-2010, 08:24 AM
LOL

How many remember Micheal O in-trouble at her previous job for 'culling the least profitable patients from its emergency room." By sending them to other Hospitals so her's could make more money.


Sen. Barack Obama’s wife and three close advisers have been involved with a program at the University of Chicago Medical Center that steers patients who don’t have private insurance — primarily poor, black people — to other health care facilities.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1122691,CST-NWS-hosp23.article

Wei Wu Wei
04-04-2010, 02:30 PM
That is Obama's new health care plan. The government just can not afford to keep people alive for too long when they get sick. We will have more patients (31 million of them), fewer doctors and hospitals and for the first time in US history the government will decide whether or not that you are too sick or too old to LIVE. Population control at it's finest so that the old fuckers do not live to be a 100 years of age. Too costly for that to happen.

You liberal dumb shits want Universal Health commie care like in Canada and the EU. Well now you have it, and you will see the greatest health care system in the world ruined by DC bureaucrats.

Um actually no we dont have a system like Canada or European countries. It's nothing like that.

Sonnabend
04-05-2010, 01:07 AM
Um actually no we dont have a system like Canada or European countries. It's nothing like that.

You do now.

Wei Wu Wei
04-05-2010, 01:09 AM
No we don't. Those governments directly provide health care to their citizens. Our system is privatized, albeit regulated, you still have to purchase private health care as a commodity from private corporations in the US.

Rockntractor
04-05-2010, 01:10 AM
You do now.

The whole concept of honesty escapes liberals!

Sonnabend
04-05-2010, 01:55 AM
No we don't. Those governments directly provide health care to their citizens. Our system is privatized, albeit regulated, you still have to purchase private health care as a commodity from private corporations in the US.

You obviously havent been paying attention. Or read the Bill.

The US, thanks to Obama, is heading in the very same direction as the failed European model. Up until now, you didn't HAVE to purchase it. Missed that, did we?

PoliCon
04-05-2010, 07:02 AM
No we don't. Those governments directly provide health care to their citizens. Our system is privatized, albeit regulated, you still have to purchase private health care as a commodity from private corporations in the US.

So what you're saying is that we have a socialist model with the veneer of capitalism on it. They have a word for that you know . . . . it's called FASCISM. :rolleyes:

AmPat
04-05-2010, 10:16 AM
:eek:
So what you're saying is that we have a socialist model with the veneer of capitalism on it. They have a word for that you know . . . . it's called FASCISM. :rolleyes:

OMG! FACTS, Run, run away! :eek:

WEE WEE, please take a logic and reasoning class. Also, come out of the echo chambers and start thinking for yourself. You sound like a retard and think like a child. Study history and take a civics class. You don't even understand or appreciate your country or its system of government. Sonna understands it better than you and he isn't a citizen.