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malloc
04-09-2010, 09:00 PM
My 12 year old daughter (at least I think she's 12, I don't really keep track :p) had a report to do for school. After she told me she had to find some research for this report, she logged into my computer found Wikipedia and started her research.

Then it hit me: My kids will never know what life was like before instant access to information! I'm a very technical person, a Systems Architect to be exact, but I remember life at school before computers. I remember going to the library, digging through encyclopedias, and jotting down notes. My kids can take notes with copy and paste. They look up any information required for any subject instantly. They have URL's in the bibliographies of their work!

To be honest, I'm just a little bit jealous at how easy they have it.

Just a mindless rant on an interesting observation.

Rockntractor
04-09-2010, 09:08 PM
My 12 year old daughter (at least I think she's 12, I don't really keep track :p) had a report to do for school. After she told me she had to find some research for this report, she logged into my computer found Wikipedia and started her research.

Then it hit me: My kids will never know what life was like before instant access to information! I'm a very technical person, a Systems Architect to be exact, but I remember life at school before computers. I remember going to the library, digging through encyclopedias, and jotting down notes. My kids can take notes with copy and paste. They look up any information required for any subject instantly. They have URL's in the bibliographies of their work!

To be honest, I'm just a little bit jealous at how easy they have it.

Just a mindless rant on an interesting observation.
Until I got my first practical computer I had a library card and went twice a week to the library, even after my first computer I used it to order books to be delivered to the closest library to me. I also save a ton of money on reference books, I'm in the process of packing up my library room and putting my books in storage.

marv
04-09-2010, 09:59 PM
My 12 year old daughter (at least I think she's 12, I don't really keep track :p)...
Uhhh, maybe YOU need to do some research!

PoliCon
04-09-2010, 10:04 PM
Until I got my first practical computer I had a library card and went twice a week to the library, even after my first computer I used it to order books to be delivered to the closest library to me. I also save a ton of money on reference books, I'm in the process of packing up my library room and putting my books in storage.

feel free to ship them to me ;) I only have 3000 volumes. I need more. :D

malloc
04-09-2010, 10:05 PM
Uhhh, maybe YOU need to do some research!

No way! If I knew how old she was it would only highlight my geezerness, and slowly bring about a certain level of panic when I realize how close she is to the dating boys phase. ;)

PoliCon
04-09-2010, 10:10 PM
My 12 year old daughter (at least I think she's 12, I don't really keep track :p) had a report to do for school. After she told me she had to find some research for this report, she logged into my computer found Wikipedia and started her research.

Then it hit me: My kids will never know what life was like before instant access to information! I'm a very technical person, a Systems Architect to be exact, but I remember life at school before computers. I remember going to the library, digging through encyclopedias, and jotting down notes. My kids can take notes with copy and paste. They look up any information required for any subject instantly. They have URL's in the bibliographies of their work!

To be honest, I'm just a little bit jealous at how easy they have it.

Just a mindless rant on an interesting observation.

This reminds me of an email I got :
When I was a kid, adults used to bore me to tears with their tedious diatribes about how hard things were. When they were growing up; what with walking twenty-five miles to school every morning.... Uphill... Barefoot... BOTH ways… yadda, yadda, yadda

And I remember promising myself that when I grew up, there was no way in hell I was going to lay a bunch of crap like that on my kids about how hard I had it and how easy they've got it!

But now that I'm over the ripe old age of thirty, I can't help but look around and notice the youth of today. You've got it so easy! I mean, compared to my childhood, you live in a damn Utopia!
And I hate to say it, but you kids today, you don't know how good you've got it!

I mean, when I was a kid we didn't have the Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and look it up ourselves, in the card catalog!!

There was no email!! We had to actually write somebody a letter - with a pen! Then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the mailbox, and it would take like a week to get there! Stamps were 10 cents!

Child Protective Services didn't care if our parents beat us. As a matter of fact, the parents of all my friends also had permission to kick our ass! Nowhere was safe!

There were no MP3's or Napsters or iTunes! If you wanted to steal music, you had to hitchhike to the record store and shoplift it yourself!

Or you had to wait around all day to tape it off the radio, and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and @#*% it all up! There were no CD players! We had tape decks in our car. We'd play our favorite tape and "eject" it when finished, and then the tape would come undone rendering it useless. Cause, hey, that's how we rolled, Baby! Dig?

We didn't have fancy crap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called, they got a busy signal, that's it!

There weren't any freakin' cell phones either. If you left the house, you just didn't make a damn call or receive one. You actually had to be out of touch with your "friends". OH MY GOD !!! Think of the horror... not being in touch with someone 24/7!!! And then there's TEXTING. Yeah, right. Please! You kids have no idea how annoying you are.

And we didn't have fancy Caller ID either! When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your parents, your boss, your bookie, your drug dealer, the collection agent... you just didn't know!!! You had to pick it up and take your chances, mister!

We didn't have any fancy PlayStation or Xbox video games with high-resolution 3-D graphics! We had the Atari 2600! With games like 'Space Invaders' and 'Asteroids'. Your screen guy was a little square! You actually had to use your imagination! !! And there were no multiple levels or screens, it was just one screen... Forever! And you could never win. The game just kept getting harder and harder and faster and faster until you died! Just like LIFE!

You had to use a little book called a TV Guide to find out what was on! You were screwed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your ass and walk over to the TV to change the channel!!! NO REMOTES!!! Oh, no, what's the world coming to?!?!

There was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I'm saying? We had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat-finks!

And we didn't have microwaves. If we wanted to heat something up, we had to use the stove! Imagine that!

And our parents told us to stay outside and play... all day long. Oh, no, no electronics to soothe and comfort. And if you came back inside... you were doing chores!
And car seats - oh, please! Mom threw you in the back seat and you hung on. If you were lucky, you got the "safety arm" across the chest at the last moment if she had to stop suddenly, and if your head hit the dashboard, well that was your fault for calling "shot gun" in the first place!
See! That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You're spoiled rotten! You guys wouldn't have lasted five minutes back in 1980 or any time before!

PoliCon
04-09-2010, 10:11 PM
No way! If I knew how old she was it would only highlight my geezerness, and slowly bring about a certain level of panic when I realize how close she is to the dating boys phase. ;)

You know shannon has a son about the same age . . . who like girls amazingly enough . . . :D

Rockntractor
04-09-2010, 10:15 PM
feel free to ship them to me ;) I only have 3000 volumes. I need more. :D
Boxes and boxes and boxes of theology, language studies and most English versions of the bible including a photocopy version of the Geneva bible complete with notes from the reformers. Several Greek and Hebrew manuscripts, most of the classic commentaries and many contemporary commentaries literal as well as liberal view points. I have copies of most of the dead sea scrolls as well as Apocrypha from other sources. I have a library that will rival most ministers. Someday I may haul it all out and disappear for five years again.

PoliCon
04-09-2010, 10:16 PM
Boxes and boxes and boxes of theology, language studies and most English versions of the bible including a photocopy version of the Geneva bible complete with notes from the reformers. Several Greek and Hebrew manuscripts, most of the classic commentaries and many contemporary commentaries literal as well as liberal view points. I have copies of most of the dead sea scrolls as well as Apocrypha from other sources. I have a library that will rival most ministers. Someday I may haul it all out and disappear for five years again.

I'd be happy to um . . . store it for you . . . :D

Rockntractor
04-09-2010, 10:22 PM
I'd be happy to um . . . store it for you . . . :D
My wife would like that, she is afraid I will disappear into the back room again for five years again and she won't see me.

malloc
04-09-2010, 10:54 PM
You know shannon has a son about the same age . . . who like girls amazingly enough . . . :D

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This reminds me of an email I got :

Ooh, I forgot about the call waiting/forwarding and caller ID! I just take them for granted now, like they have always been there. As for the cell phones and texting, I must admit I'm more guilty of this than my kids are. Before I had a Google G1 how did I find anything without the maps and navigation? How did I ever remember who my friends were, much less there phone numbers? Jeez, I'm completely dependent on this thing now. :(

Gingersnap
04-09-2010, 11:02 PM
As an employer (and a tutor), I've thought a lot about Internet research. I like it but I realize that I actually have enough base knowledge to recognize the difference between authoritative sources and their clones. It's difficult to make those distinctions clear to the 18 and under crowd. (It's difficult for the over 30 crowd sometimes.)

If push comes to shove, I could actually do what I do with a pencil and paper. A slide rule would shorten things up, and a learning calculator would be great! Even Lotus would be helpful.

I have enough skills to do real math without technology. I could also research any topic without the Internet (although in some cases I wouldn't have the best statistics). I could write the Great American Novel in longhand if I had the interest and talent to write it in the first place.

It's easy to use all these wonderful shortcuts. It's fun. I'm really glad I could instantly (and pretty painlessly) do all of this and much more with essentially 19th century tools and skill sets of I had to.

Rockntractor
04-09-2010, 11:11 PM
As an employer (and a tutor), I've thought a lot about Internet research. I like it but I realize that I actually have enough base knowledge to recognize the difference between authoritative sources and their clones. It's difficult to make those distinctions clear to the 18 and under crowd. (It's difficult for the over 30 crowd sometimes.)

If push comes to shove, I could actually do what I do with a pencil and paper. A slide rule would shorten things up, and a learning calculator would be great! Even Lotus would be helpful.

I have enough skills to do real math without technology. I could also research any topic without the Internet (although in some cases I wouldn't have the best statistics). I could write the Great American Novel in longhand if I had the interest and talent to write it in the first place.

It's easy to use all these wonderful shortcuts. It's fun. I'm really glad I could instantly (and pretty painlessly) do all of this and much more with essentially 19th century tools and skill sets of I had to.
Careful Ginger! There is too much dating going on here. You could do without a calculator even though they have been around since way before you were born, Right?:D

malloc
04-09-2010, 11:13 PM
As an employer (and a tutor), I've thought a lot about Internet research. I like it but I realize that I actually have enough base knowledge to recognize the difference between authoritative sources and their clones. It's difficult to make those distinctions clear to the 18 and under crowd. (It's difficult for the over 30 crowd sometimes.)

If push comes to shove, I could actually do what I do with a pencil and paper. A slide rule would shorten things up, and a learning calculator would be great! Even Lotus would be helpful.

I have enough skills to do real math without technology. I could also research any topic without the Internet (although in some cases I wouldn't have the best statistics). I could write the Great American Novel in longhand if I had the interest and talent to write it in the first place.

It's easy to use all these wonderful shortcuts. It's fun. I'm really glad I could instantly (and pretty painlessly) do all of this and much more with essentially 19th century tools and skill sets of I had to.

I can tell you with 100% certainty that I couldn't do my job by hand without the internet. Mostly because without computers, the internet and Linux, I wouldn't have my job, as it were.

Gingersnap
04-09-2010, 11:45 PM
Careful Ginger! There is too much dating going on here. You could do without a calculator even though they have been around since way before you were born, Right?:D

LOL! No dating (or nothing too extreme). My undergrad program had modules that required pen/paper, slide rule, and basic calculator skills. The idea back then was that you didn't actually "know" whatever it was unless you could do it that way. They also made those of us in the hard sciences build our own computers even though cheapo computers were available.

I was in the very last class at my college who had the choice of taking the classical or contemporary version of my degree program. I took the classical option and I've never looked back. I had literature, history, religion, and so forth but I also had to take logic, botany, fine arts, language, and music. My actual major in undergrad was chemistry.

While I've never used botany on a day-to-day basis, I've used it more than I ever did the 'Feminist American Literature' class I had to take. :D

Now, I went to a very expensive, very selective, very holier-than-thou college. Your middle-of-the-road private colleges probably didn't (don't) offer this kind of old school skill set. :rolleyes:

I have to say that my (then) elite prep allowed me to whip butt later in graduate school.

megimoo
04-10-2010, 07:56 AM
Boxes and boxes and boxes of theology, language studies and most English versions of the bible including a photocopy version of the Geneva bible complete with notes from the reformers. Several Greek and Hebrew manuscripts, most of the classic commentaries and many contemporary commentaries literal as well as liberal view points. I have copies of most of the dead sea scrolls as well as Apocrypha from other sources. I have a library that will rival most ministers. Someday I may haul it all out and disappear for five years again.You could establish your ministry here.We even have a token heathen/sinner or two for your work .You could even take Polli as your acolyte .:D

Sonnabend
04-11-2010, 03:38 AM
And with all that information and resources on hand, megimoo still cant get it right...:rolleyes: