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NJCardFan
04-18-2010, 12:55 PM
This is amazing. (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=ice-cap-thaw-iceland-volcanoes) :rolleyes: They're not blaming this specific eruption on AGW but their studies show that AGW will cause more ice caps to melt causing more eruptions. This would be funny if it wasn't so sad.


"Our work suggests that eventually there will be either somewhat larger eruptions or more frequent eruptions in Iceland in coming decades," said Freysteinn Sigmundsson, a vulcanologist at the University of Iceland.

"Global warming melts ice and this can influence magmatic systems," he told Reuters. The end of the Ice Age 10,000 years ago coincided with a surge in volcanic activity in Iceland, apparently because huge ice caps thinned and the land rose.

I guess it's impossible that molten rock or magma that reaches temperatures upwards of about 2,000 degrees couldn't possibly melt ice.

djones520
04-18-2010, 01:10 PM
The science isn't that flawed. Melting and receding glaciers do cause massive "land shifts" that could result in volcanic activities for such prone regions. But saying that these eruptions are due to that is pure speculation as far as I'm aware.

Sonnabend
04-18-2010, 04:33 PM
They're not blaming this specific eruption on AGW but their studies show that AGW will cause more ice caps to melt causing more eruptions

Meanwhile the ice caps are getting BIGGER.

AGW is a hoax, a lie.

wilbur
04-18-2010, 06:25 PM
Meanwhile the ice caps are getting BIGGER.

And here back in reality, the Arctic is losing ice mass all over the place..

Articulate_Ape
04-18-2010, 06:38 PM
And here back in reality, the Arctic is losing ice mass all over the place..



O RLY? (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/07/nsidc-arctic-sea-ice-melt-season-latest-start-on-record/)

Speedy
04-18-2010, 06:41 PM
And here back in reality, the Arctic is losing ice mass all over the place..

Yeah. Suuuuuuuure it is.:rolleyes:

djones520
04-18-2010, 07:34 PM
And here back in reality, the Arctic is losing ice mass all over the place..

And you would know this how? There is no reliable arctic wide ice thickness measurement since NASA killed ICESat last year. But we do know that ice levels are way above what they have been the last few years.

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stdev_timeseries.png

NJCardFan
04-18-2010, 08:26 PM
O RLY? (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/07/nsidc-arctic-sea-ice-melt-season-latest-start-on-record/)

The more facts you give these AGW chuckleheads the more they don't believe you.

Articulate_Ape
04-18-2010, 08:45 PM
The more facts you give these AGW chuckleheads the more they don't believe you.

I know. It could be −273C at the equator for 100 years and they would be sending out smoke signals from subterranean cold shelters saying, "Absolute zero is an indication of AGW." Fucking meatheads. I do love to toy with their under-developed minds though. It's fun.

Sonnabend
04-19-2010, 04:53 AM
And here back in reality, the Arctic is losing ice mass all over the place.I imagine Gore could get through it with his houseboat

http://dirtyharrysplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/rrrrrr.jpg

Read and remember, wilbur (http://sanityinjection.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/is-the-arctic-polar-ice-cap-getting-thicker/)


One of the main components of the global warming hypothesis is the assertion that warmer temperatures are causing the polar ice caps to melt. Proponents point to measurements of the extent of the polar ice cap in winter and summer over time. This is also the sole basis for the now widespread assumption that polar bears are endangered (when in fact, polar bear populations are currently flourishing.)
But the polar ice cap is a three dimensional structure. With all the attention being paid to the extent of the ice caps, has any attention been paid to their thickness? This applies primarily to the Arctic polar cap which floats over ocean, as opposed to the Antarctic which is mostly on land. If global warming is causing the Arctic ice cap to melt, we should expect that not only would it be decreasing in extent, but it should be getting thinner as warmer ocean waters melt it from below and warmer air melts it from above.

However, data from Arctic measurement buoys does not seem to indicate this. In fact, at least some parts of the Arctic polar ice cap seem to have thickened substantially over the past decade:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/09/wuwt-ice-survey-shows-thickening-arctic-ice/

he charts in this article are a little hard to read, but I found the 2007J and 2006C buoy data toward the end the easiest to see the thickening.

Of course, it’s possible that some parts of the ice cap could be thinning while others are thickening. But that fact that any of it is thickening at all does not seem to mesh well with the assertion that the ice cap is melting at an accelerated rate.

Which brings me back to the point I often repeat with regard to climate change. We know that the climate is indeed changing, as it has continually done since the birth of the planet. But given the wide variety of often conflicting climatological data from around the world, anyone who claims to be able to state definitively exactly how it is changing and what is causing it is either a fool, or selling something.

marv
04-19-2010, 10:58 AM
Let's all get ready for NGC (Natural Global Cooling) caused by the ash cloud from the Icelandic volcano eruption. Maybe Algore can find a newer and more exciting cause to promote his snake oil. Alternately, we could enact new regulations on how, when, and where volcanoes can erupt, and how much ash they can spew into the atmosphere, and authorize the sale of Ash Offsets...http://users.mo-net.com/mcruzan/avatars/laugher.gif

lacarnut
04-20-2010, 02:42 AM
You'll just do not get it. After that Global Warming Meeting across the pond where thousands of those Env. weenies attended, it was evident that an erruption would occur. The earth/atmoshphere can just handle so much bullshit at one time.:eek: