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fettpett
05-14-2010, 08:01 PM
Why is Obama’s Social Security Number from CT??
Written by Miranda SullivancloseAuthor: Miranda Sullivan Name: Miranda Sullivan
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Two private investigators working independently have raised concerns over the social security number of our beloved President Barack Hussein Obama. The reason being that the digits he covets are reserved for the state of Connecticut, a location he never hailed from. While special circumstances have allowed individuals to register in non-residential states, they remain ’special’ circumstances. Still, no reason for concern, BHO has maintained his ethical integrity while standing by his campaign vow of COMPLETE DISCLOSURE & TRANSPARENCY. With the patriotically excusable omission of a few useless pieces of documentation including his original birth certificate and:

educational records, scholarly articles, passport documents, medical records, papers from his service in the Illinois state Senate, Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records and adoption papers

Another red flag is that the number issued was done so at the very least two years after Obama’s first publicly recorded employment. How was he employed without a social security card? One investigator believes that Bam claimed one social security in Hawaii and then at some point before 1986 claimed another. His current digits were recorded as his own for the very first time in Chicago in 1986.

Oh wait, ANOTHER concern is that the number appears to have been recycled and originally issued to an individual born in 1890 which leads experts to concur that Obama took a deceased citizens social security number prior to 1986 for reasons evidently understood only by himself.

Now maybe its just a silly paranoia fueled conspiracy to insinuate that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible to serve as the 44th president of the United States of America, so we won’t. But it seems logically justified to question the motives of a man who would spend over 2 million dollars in court fees to avoid producing a birth certificate. Just sayin.

http://www.parcbench.com/2010/05/13/why-is-obamas-social-security-number-from-ct/


interesting, thought they might be grasping at straws

Apocalypse
05-15-2010, 02:09 AM
http://www.parcbench.com/2010/05/13/why-is-obamas-social-security-number-from-ct/


interesting, thought they might be grasping at straws

Its grasping at straws, and I would suggest being wary of any thing out of WND.

This article or letter is from WND.

It pertains that Obama started work in 1975 but didn't receive his SSN until 1979. But overlooks some simple facts. First is this article is playing on another by one "The Parcbench blog" which delved into the whole SSN fraud, multi people having it, and other allegations. But failed to back any of it up with hard facts.

Mostly you can sum it up, and bust this with some simple facts. And doing so with some simple math.

Obama was born in Aug, 1961. He started work in '75. So he would have been 13 years old when he started work. He was an underage worker, and as such, likely wouldn't been issued his SSN yet as he worked "under the table" as an underage teen in 1975. At 13 , Obama could not have obtained working papers to go to work in a non-family-owned commercial establishment.

BTW, It is legal to apply for a Social Security card at any social security office. It is not illegal to maintain a mailing address different from a residence address. The SSA assigns Social Security numbers based on mailing addresses used on the application form, not residence address. So the only question left to ask is, did Obama have or use a mailing address in Conn. at the time he received his SSN card.

djones520
05-15-2010, 09:42 AM
I was born in Greece, and mine shows up as being from Texas. Birthers coming after me next?

Speedy
05-15-2010, 09:53 AM
You are as completely unimportant as the rest of us. Why would the birthers even bother?

fettpett
05-15-2010, 01:56 PM
Its grasping at straws, and I would suggest being wary of any thing out of WND.

This article or letter is from WND.

It pertains that Obama started work in 1975 but didn't receive his SSN until 1979. But overlooks some simple facts. First is this article is playing on another by one "The Parcbench blog" which delved into the whole SSN fraud, multi people having it, and other allegations. But failed to back any of it up with hard facts.

Mostly you can sum it up, and bust this with some simple facts. And doing so with some simple math.

Obama was born in Aug, 1961. He started work in '75. So he would have been 13 years old when he started work. He was an underage worker, and as such, likely wouldn't been issued his SSN yet as he worked "under the table" as an underage teen in 1975. At 13 , Obama could not have obtained working papers to go to work in a non-family-owned commercial establishment.

BTW, It is legal to apply for a Social Security card at any social security office. It is not illegal to maintain a mailing address different from a residence address. The SSA assigns Social Security numbers based on mailing addresses used on the application form, not residence address. So the only question left to ask is, did Obama have or use a mailing address in Conn. at the time he received his SSN card.

I know when I started working I had to have a SSN (which my mom got in '83 after I was born, as I got all 3 of my kids after they were born) and a workers permit from the city saying that I could work and had to get one for every job I had till I was either 16 or 18 (don't remember which but believe it was 16). Now granted this was only 14-15 years ago in the mid '90's and not the '70's. but the facts don't line up very well for him. there are NO indications that Obama ever lived in Conn. only Hawaii, IL, MA, and CA. So unless he's leaving any time out for when he was living there when he got his SSN (which was issued between '77 and '79, 2-4 years after he started working) then there are some major issues raised as he was working at Baskin-Robbins in Hawaii.

Also there are 2 different PI's that were looking into this, neither knew each other and came to the same conclusion.
one said this:

"I know Social Security numbers have been issued to people in states where they don't live, but there's usually a good reason the person applied for a Social Security number in a different state," Siciliano told WND.

WND asked Siciliano whether he thought the question was one the White House should answer.

"Yes," he replied. "In the case of President Obama, I really don't know what the good reason would be that he has a Social Security number issued in Connecticut when we know he was a resident of Hawaii."

the other said:

Sampson's affidavit specifies that as a result of his formal training as an immigration officer and his 27-year career in professional law enforcement, "it is my knowledge and belief that Social Security numbers can only be applied for in the state in which the applicant habitually resides and has their official residence."

Daniels told WND she believes Obama had a different Social Security number when he worked as a teenager in Hawaii prior to 1977.

"I doubt this is President Obama's originally issued Social Security number," she told WND. "Obama has a work history in Hawaii before he left the islands to attend college at Occidental College in California, so he must have originally been issued a Social Security number in Hawaii." ...
"It is a crime to use more than one Social Security number, and Barack Obama had to have a previous Social Security number to have worked at Baskin-Robbins," she insisted. "Under current law, a person is not permitted to use more than one Social Security number in a lifetime."


doubt WND however much you want, but the questions raised should be answered, and like I said earlier they may be grasping at straws.

Apocalypse
05-15-2010, 02:24 PM
I know when I started working I had to have a SSN (which my mom got in '83 after I was born, as I got all 3 of my kids after they were born) and a workers permit from the city saying that I could work and had to get one for every job I had till I was either 16 or 18 (don't remember which but believe it was 16). Now granted this was only 14-15 years ago in the mid '90's and not the '70's. but the facts don't line up very well for him. there are NO indications that Obama ever lived in Conn. only Hawaii, IL, MA, and CA. So unless he's leaving any time out for when he was living there when he got his SSN (which was issued between '77 and '79, 2-4 years after he started working) then there are some major issues raised as he was working at Baskin-Robbins in Hawaii.


Again, there doesn't need to be any indication that he ever lived in Conn, as they are issued by mailing address, which could be ether the home address of a friend, or a PO box at a post office. Need not be his actual residence. Thats why I said;

"So the only question left to ask is, did Obama have or use a mailing address in Conn. at the time he received his SSN card."

fettpett
05-15-2010, 02:37 PM
Again, there doesn't need to be any indication that he ever lived in Conn, as they are issued by mailing address, which could be ether the home address of a friend, or a PO box at a post office. Need not be his actual residence. Thats why I said;

"So the only question left to ask is, did Obama have or use a mailing address in Conn. at the time he received his SSN card."

I get that, but it comes down to timing. the Number was issued between '77-'79 when he was a Teenager in Hawaii.

and then there is this:

Sampson's affidavit specifies that as a result of his formal training as an immigration officer and his 27-year career in professional law enforcement, "it is my knowledge and belief that Social Security numbers can only be applied for in the state in which the applicant habitually resides and has their official residence."

how did he get a SSN to a state that he's NEVER lived in or had any connection too. When you apply for a SSN or name change on one you have to provide a legal residence address not a PO Box number.

Apocalypse
05-15-2010, 06:30 PM
I get that, but it comes down to timing. the Number was issued between '77-'79 when he was a Teenager in Hawaii.

and then there is this:


how did he get a SSN to a state that he's NEVER lived in or had any connection too. When you apply for a SSN or name change on one you have to provide a legal residence address not a PO Box number.

Again, you try to tie it to where he "Lived".


Few people actually know how they (US Government) come up with our social security numbers.

The first three digits are the area numbers. These digits originally indicated the state where you applied for your first card. Now it is derived from the ZIP code in the mailing address on your application for a card. The first three digits of a valid number cannot begin with "000" or any number between "769 and 999". Likewise, the first three numbers cannot be all 1's, 3's, 8's or 9's.

The middle two digits are the group numbers. They have no special geographic or data significance but merely serve to break the number into conveniently sized blocks for orderly issuance.

The last four digits are the serial numbers. They represent a straight numerical sequence of numbers within the group.

It should also be noted that numbers assigned to alien taxpayers start with a "9" and are not valid numbers for securing work in the United States. In fact, the "9" indicates the person is not eligible for employment and hiring someone with one of these numbers can result in a fine for the employer.

Check out www.ssa.gov for more info


Note bolded, it says nothing about residence, but MAILING ADDRESS.

Unless one can prove by difinative proof that he never stepped foot in Conn for any reason while in HS, say on a field trip as part of his school, or trip with his mother, or visiting family that lived there and filled while on the trip for convince, then there is little to it.

I despise dumb-ass as much as the next guy, but I have three words that put doubt in any birther claim about him being ineligible.


Hillary Rhodam Clinton.

If you don't think that she had her army of lawyers searching for a way to get him tossed off the ballet, during the '08 election, then its sad. And yes, this was all going on back then too, and I'm sure she dug deep and found nothing.

fettpett
05-15-2010, 06:40 PM
Again, you try to tie it to where he "Lived".




Note bolded, it says nothing about residence, but MAILING ADDRESS.

Unless one can prove by difinative proof that he never stepped foot in Conn for any reason while in HS, say on a field trip as part of his school, or trip with his mother, or visiting family that lived there and filled while on the trip for convince, then there is little to it.

I despise dumb-ass as much as the next guy, but I have three words that put doubt in any birther claim about him being ineligible.


Hillary Rhodam Clinton.

If you don't think that she had her army of lawyers searching for a way to get him tossed off the ballet, during the '08 election, then its sad. And yes, this was all going on back then too, and I'm sure she dug deep and found nothing.

http://www.usrecordsearch.com/ssn.htm

040-049 is a far cry form 574-575

but I do agree...why i said it was grasping at straws....of course he could have 2 SSN now and he would be committing fraud

patriot45
05-15-2010, 06:51 PM
Do the math! The glorious 0 has lied about everything else so far but you upstanding non-ct ers believe this!
I'm not sure he is human!

Birth certificate, college records, transcripts, c'mon how much do you take on faith!?!

Bubba Dawg
05-15-2010, 06:52 PM
I've read that when Barack Obama's parents separated his father moved to Connecticut. A parent can file for a social security card/number for a minor child without the child signing anything or even being present.

patriot45
05-15-2010, 06:54 PM
I've read that when Barack Obama's parents separated his father moved to Connecticut. A parent can file for a social security card/number for a minor child without the child signing anything or even being present.

I see they got to you already! :eek:

Bubba Dawg
05-15-2010, 06:58 PM
I see they got to you already! :eek:

Some guy sprinkled a yellow powder on my mac and cheese. He siad it takes half the calories out and you can't even tell it was there.

He also said I'd get a pony, now that I think of it.......:eek:

Speedy
05-15-2010, 07:05 PM
He also said I'd get a pony, now that I think of it.......:eek:

You got a pony alright. A baloney pony on that deal.

Bubba Dawg
05-15-2010, 07:08 PM
You got a pony alright. A baloney pony on that deal.

Does that mean the mac and cheese had all the calories? :eek:

Elspeth
05-15-2010, 09:08 PM
Do the math! The glorious 0 has lied about everything else so far but you upstanding non-ct ers believe this!
I'm not sure he is human!

Birth certificate, college records, transcripts, c'mon how much do you take on faith!?!

I'm thinkin he's a holograph myself. Like that CNN thing. They take him out when they need someone to sell us shit.:D

fettpett
05-16-2010, 02:52 PM
He also said I'd get a pony, now that I think of it.......:eek:

someones been listening to Ghostcrawler too much... :p :D

Wei Wu Wei
05-16-2010, 02:54 PM
a"HE'S AINT MY PREZDENT! "

fettpett
05-16-2010, 03:02 PM
I've read that when Barack Obama's parents separated his father moved to Connecticut. A parent can file for a social security card/number for a minor child without the child signing anything or even being present.

even if that's the case he would have had two SSN numbers, since he already had one in order to work in Hawaii. but the first time that it's used for work is in '86 in Chicago...

RobJohnson
05-16-2010, 07:46 PM
Does that mean the mac and cheese had all the calories? :eek:

Ha! :)

stsinner
05-16-2010, 08:41 PM
Do the math! The glorious 0 has lied about everything else so far but you upstanding non-ct ers believe this!
I'm not sure he is human!

Birth certificate, college records, transcripts, c'mon how much do you take on faith!?!

That says it all...

Apocalypse
05-16-2010, 08:41 PM
a"HE'S AINT MY PREZDENT! "

Where have I heard that before????


Oh yea, from dumb ass liberals from '00 - '08

noonwitch
05-17-2010, 10:00 AM
1. People didn't start applying for SS numbers for their kids at birth until the 80s. Usually, working for the first was the reason a kid applied for one prior to that time, or a kid got one assigned because his custodial parent received ADC. I applied for one in middle school, because I needed one to apply for scholarships to music camp. I applied at school, with my guidance counselor.

2. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that in the past (pre-1985 or so), the numbers of the deceased were re-assigned to the living after a certain amount of time had passed. I don't think that modern computer systems would allow for that anymore. I know what our newest system is like, and I would guess that the federal government's is even more sophisticated and advanced. It is very possible that Obama had two different numbers as a teen in the 70s. The computer systems used at that time were very simple and error-prone compared to what we use now. I would guess that the odds of anyone born after the mid to late 80s wouldn't have the same possibility of having two numbers as someone born before then, because of the use of computer search engines.

fettpett
05-17-2010, 10:15 AM
I'm sure there could be an explaination. but if he needed one to work in Hawaii, why wouldn't he have continued to use the same one?

there may not be much to this, but it does raise some red flags

sgrooms
05-18-2010, 02:56 PM
Q18: Is there any significance to the numbers assigned in the Social Security Number?

A: Yes. The first three digits are assigned by the geographical region in which the person was residing at the time he/she obtained a number. Generally, numbers were assigned beginning in the northeast and moving westward. So people on the east coast have the lowest numbers and those on the west coast have the highest numbers. The remaining six digits in the number are more or less randomly assigned and were organized to facilitate the early manual bookkeeping operations associated with the creation of Social Security in the 1930s.

Q20: Are Social Security numbers reused after a person dies?

A: No. We do not reassign a Social Security number (SSN) after the number holder's death. Even though we have issued over 415 million SSNs so far, and we assign about 5 and one-half million new numbers a year, the current numbering system will provide us with enough new numbers for several generations into the future with no changes in the numbering system.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html