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malloc
05-21-2010, 08:30 PM
A federal judge has struck a blow for California's water-deprived Central Valley, ruling that draconian federal water cutbacks violate human rights because surprise! people also belong in the ecosystem.

Next time a concept like, say "death panels" from the federal government seems far-fetched, consider the ordeal California's Central Valley has endured for the past two years.

Based on a judicial ruling, some of the most prized and productive agricultural land in the country was turned into a wasteland after its water was shut off.

The ruling was derived from an 800-page "biological opinion" put out by regulators enforcing the National Environmental Policy Act, ostensibly to protect a finger-sized fish called the delta smelt and some other wildlife. Regulators complained that smelt were getting ground up in pumping stations that brought river water from California's north to its south, so the water had to stop.

Even the judge was appalled at being forced into the ruling but had no choice, given the law, and tried to cushion the impact.

Tuesday, that same judge, District Judge Oliver Wanger declared to federal regulators that they must consider the impact of their "draconian" actions on human communities, something they've never done up until now.

LINK (http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/534728/201005201852/Water-Sanity-For-Central-California.aspx)

I'm glad people are catching on to the argument wherein actions taken to protect a species must also be weighed against the cost to humans.

PoliCon
05-21-2010, 08:35 PM
Lets think . . . . what is more important? Fish bait or human beings? HumMMMMmmmmmmmm . . . . . this is gonna be tough!

Rockntractor
05-21-2010, 09:01 PM
Lets think . . . . what is more important? Fish bait or human beings? HumMMMMmmmmmmmm . . . . . this is gonna be tough!

You're an expert on water, you still wet your bed!:D

PoliCon
05-21-2010, 10:10 PM
You're an expert on water, you still wet your bed!:D

Well there often is a wet spot - but it's not from urine. :p

Rockntractor
05-21-2010, 11:54 PM
Well there often is a wet spot - but it's not from urine. :p

Does your cat drool?:rolleyes:

PoliCon
05-22-2010, 12:31 AM
Does your cat drool?:rolleyes:

The "cat?" well um . . . . yes. Yes it does.:D

namvet
05-22-2010, 10:12 PM
Pelosi won't like this at all !!!!! she bottled up the dams to protect some damned fish.

noonwitch
05-24-2010, 02:10 PM
We've got plenty of water, but Michigan isn't selling it in bulk. CA will have to deal with Illinois if they want to buy Great Lakes water without any care to the effects on the environment.


One of the brands of bottled water is actually water produced by the City of Detroit water system. I think it's Desani. The water filtration system is one of the things that Detroit continues to do well, that's why most of the suburbs continue to pay them for water and for maintenance of their sewer systems. The water is always clear, there's not a noticeable chlorine taste or smell, and compared to a lot of cities with similar size and economic conditions, there really aren't that many major water main breaks and such.

I have to hype it. A bunch of my grandpa's relatives helped design it, a very long time ago. I think a couple of my second cousins are still employed by the City of Detroit in the water department. I'm not really very close to that part of the family, and most plumbers who work for the city leave once their pensions are vested, because there is better money in the private sector.

namvet
05-24-2010, 02:54 PM
CA sits next to the Pacific. plenty of water. why don't they use Desalination ???? the Navy's used it for years.

Constitutionally Speaking
05-24-2010, 03:26 PM
It's expensive, and other sources are cheap. Still, they should work on it.

noonwitch
05-24-2010, 04:02 PM
It's expensive, and other sources are cheap. Still, they should work on it.



Yeah, we don't want them demanding our water at a cheap price!


I wonder whatever happened to company labs that hire people to investigate cheaper ways to accomplish goals, like desalinating ocean water. You would think that California industries would place a higher priority on this, considering they are the largest state, population-wise and that they are parked next to the largest body of water in the world.

namvet
05-24-2010, 05:51 PM
and the Pacific has been staring at them how many years????

namvet
05-24-2010, 06:11 PM
It's expensive, and other sources are cheap. Still, they should work on it.


i forgot about their economy

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