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OwlMBA
08-08-2008, 12:17 AM
These cops should be arrested and charged, and whoever signed such a stupid warrant should be pulled from the bench and disbarred.

More Barney Fife small town hick cops on a power trip and they killed a couple of black labs in the process - all over some pot. Completely idiotic.

By the way, after all the shooting and no-knock warrant and dead dogs, no crime was uncovered and no charges filed. Great job, small town cops! Way to do your job!


When the shooting stopped, two dogs lay dead. A mayor sat in his boxers, hands bound behind his back. His handcuffed mother-in-law was sprawled on the kitchen floor, lying beside the body of one of the family pets that police had killed before her eyes.

After the raid, Prince George's County police officials who burst into the home of Berwyn Heights' mayor last week seized the same unopened package of marijuana that an undercover officer had delivered an hour earlier.

What police left behind was a house stained with blood and a trail of questions about their conduct. No other evidence of illegal activity was found, and no one was arrested at Mayor Cheye Calvo's home in this small bedroom community near College Park.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/thumbnails/teaser/2008-08/41489272-07115907.jpg

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-mayor0807,0,4563211.story?page=1

Eyelids
08-08-2008, 12:18 AM
We should nationalize small town America and just run them by proxy from the nearest major city to ensure things dont get too bad. Let them live in the lawless tribal fasion they so clearly desire, as long as they produce and dont affect life where the important people live.

Theophilus
08-08-2008, 12:44 AM
MICHAEL A. JACKSON, Sheriff (Democrat)

Office of Sheriff
1601 McCormick Drive, Largo, MD 20774
(301) 883-7000
e-mail: sheriffinfo@co.pg.md.us
web: www.co.pg.md.us/government/judicialbranch/sheriff/index.asp

Absolutely insane. They didn't even notify the local police that they were going to conduct the raid in their jurisdiction.

If I saw a guy rushing toward my home in plain clothes with a weapon drawn I'd have probably drilled him.

Arbitrarily shooting peoples dogs is the kind of thing that led to Ruby Ridge. These guys are OUT OF CONTROL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPyfpBaWhFk&eurl=http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&ncl=1234302920

marinejcksn
08-08-2008, 02:39 AM
We should nationalize small town America and just run them by proxy from the nearest major city to ensure things dont get too bad. Let them live in the lawless tribal fasion they so clearly desire, as long as they produce and dont affect life where the important people live.

Nationalize towns. Yeah, since so many GREAT things have come out of more government intervention all those times in the past right? You're retarded lids.

Eyelids
08-08-2008, 04:48 AM
These people live like savages in rural America, they cant be trusted to take care of themselves so the people in the cities should do it for them. I dont know, tell them its what the bible meant for them to do and wrap it all up in a flag and we shouldn't have too much trouble convincing them its all in their best interests.

As long as they grow the corn and dont revolt I could care less, but I dont know if they're smart enough to even do that anymore.

Sonnabend
08-08-2008, 04:55 AM
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Eyelids
08-08-2008, 04:57 AM
You have to see them to believe them Sonnabend, its disgusting. They live like swine in small towns everywhere and cling to the most trivial and ancient foundations to justify themselves. They cant be trusted to manage themselves...

Capitalism could still thrive in the cities too, the people here are actually smart enough to fend for themselves and avoid going back to the dark ages.

Sonnabend
08-08-2008, 05:07 AM
You have to see them to believe them Sonnabend, its disgusting.

Have you ever thought of emigrating? You really seem to hate where you are living right now. Cuba is nice in summer...so is Venezuela.


They live like swine in small towns everywhere and cling to the most trivial and ancient foundations to justify themselves. They cant be trusted to manage themselves...

..but Kenya has its charms too.


Capitalism could still thrive in the cities too, the people here are actually smart enough to fend for themselves and avoid going back to the dark ages.

They're smarter than you will ever be. Are you reading what you're typing? Seriously, get a mop and clean that monitor and keyboard..all that venom and spittle..the system must be drenched by now.

Water is bad for electronics, didnt anyone ever teach you that?

Eyelids
08-08-2008, 05:10 AM
What the hell are you even talking about?

Sonnabend
08-08-2008, 05:12 AM
What the hell are you even talking about?

Check the systolic. Thats the one to worry about. :D:D

Nubs
08-08-2008, 06:32 AM
If your home is raided by the police, it is SOP across the country to shoot the dogs - first thing. Why is the MP5 nicknamed the hush puppy?

dixierat
08-08-2008, 07:52 AM
These people live like savages in rural America, they cant be trusted to take care of themselves so the people in the cities should do it for them. I dont know, tell them its what the bible meant for them to do and wrap it all up in a flag and we shouldn't have too much trouble convincing them its all in their best interests.

As long as they grow the corn and dont revolt I could care less, but I dont know if they're smart enough to even do that anymore.

You have seen inner city USA haven't you? You know, where the vast majority of the crime in this country occurs? and you want that for our small towns? You're a fucking idiot.

:cool:

wilbur
08-08-2008, 08:04 AM
The war on drugs even kills family pets now?! :mad:

Cold Warrior
08-08-2008, 08:12 AM
The war on drugs even kills family pets now?! :mad:

Yep, the first step towards the police state was the War on Drugs complemented very nicely by the War on Terror.

There's another case in Maryland wherein an informant claimed some guy was growing large amounts of pot in his backyard (he wasn't), the police came into his house at 3:00 am, and he killed one of them. He's facing murder charges. But, thank God, they did find a few grams of pot, so everything was justified and the children all over America are safer.

dixierat
08-08-2008, 08:35 AM
Yep, the first step towards the police state was the War on Drugs complemented very nicely by the War on Terror.

There's another case in Maryland wherein an informant claimed some guy was growing large amounts of pot in his backyard (he wasn't), the police came into his house at 3:00 am, and he killed one of them. He's facing murder charges. But, thank God, they did find a few grams of pot, so everything was justified and the children all over America are safer.

Actually, the War on Poverty. The rest I agree with.

:cool:

FeebMaster
08-08-2008, 08:46 AM
This guys lucky he's a mayor. If he were just a peon, most people would be saying things like "there must be more to the story that we aren't hearing" and "the cops just want to get home safely to their families" and "fucking drug dealers, shame they didn't get killed instead of the dogs."

Cold Warrior
08-08-2008, 08:51 AM
Actually, the War on Poverty. The rest I agree with.

:cool:

Agreed, as the War on Poverty served as a pretext for extension of government powers through the financial lever.

Molon Labe
08-08-2008, 09:11 AM
We should nationalize small town America and just run them by proxy from the nearest major city to ensure things dont get too bad. Let them live in the lawless tribal fasion they so clearly desire, as long as they produce and dont affect life where the important people live.

Do you even think about what your saying before you vomit it out?

Your just being controversial aren't you? You can't really believe this?

How about crime? I'd argue gang warfare resembles lawless tribalism much more than any feature of rural America. There was a nasty gang that used homeless people as slaves, chaining them in buildings and having them sell drugs. Yeah.... city life is real progressive when you know that the last vestiges of slavery in America happen there.

Ever read the book "Walden"? Or anything by Rousseau? Few great political theorist has ever written a treatise on how great city life is except Marx...and we all know how great that concept is.
He didn't even get the Communist concept correct. Remember the revolution was to be carried out in industrialized societies with cities (Germany)...but everywhere it happened in agrarian societies.(China,Vietnam, S.America)

That's why many respectable students of history believe Jefferson is a sage and Hamilton was a fool.

What about cities contributions to environmental damage?
The list goes on.

These are the type things that weaken your argument and make you our very own Court jester. I've lived in the city and rural. But who am I? I'm just a small town American trying to survive in my lawless tribal fashion.:rolleyes:

Molon Labe
08-08-2008, 09:25 AM
These cops should be arrested and charged, and whoever signed such a stupid warrant should be pulled from the bench and disbarred.

More Barney Fife small town hick cops on a power trip and they killed a couple of black labs in the process - all over some pot. Completely idiotic.

By the way, after all the shooting and no-knock warrant and dead dogs, no crime was uncovered and no charges filed. Great job, small town cops! Way to do your job!

OwlMBA....If you liked that you'll love this article. Have you heard about Rachel Hoffman? Read her story and then read the second link to see what conservative Judge Napolitano thinks.

http://www.alternet.org/story/93082/


Rachel became the bait; the Tallahassee police force went trolling for sharks.

In the weeks preceding Rachel's murder, police told her to remain tight-lipped about their backroom agreement -- and with good reason. The cops' on-the-spot deal with Rachel flagrantly violated Tallahassee Police Department protocol,

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/whosarat/printadd?id=1043675&pid=9741181



Entrapment is to law enforcement what practice development is to the legal profession. It’s a business builder. ‘Not enough crime to keep us busy,’ or ‘someone we need to get off the street,’ the police might say, ‘Well, let’s stimulate some crime by tossing out a lure or two. Let us create some business.’

Cold Warrior
08-08-2008, 09:39 AM
It now appears that the entire raid on Berwyn Heights (http://www.reason.com/blog/), Maryland Mayor Cheye Calvo may have been illegal. Last week, police stormed Calvo's home without knocking, shot and killed his two black labs, and questioned him and his mother-in-law at gunpoint over a delivered package of marijuana that police now concede may have been intended for someone else.

The Washington Post reports that the police didn't even bother to get a no-knock warrant, which means the tactics they used were illegal:
...
But a review of the warrant indicates that police neither sought nor received permission from Circuit Court Judge Albert W. Northrup to enter without knocking. Northrup found probable cause to suspect that drugs might be in the house and granted police a standard search warrant.
...
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court has given the police leeway to disregard the knock-and-announce requirement. In June 2006, the Court ruled in Hudson v. Michigan that evidence seized in raids in which police fail to properly observe the knock-and-announce rule isn't subject to the Exclusionary Rule. Justice Scalia assured us that there's a "new professionalism" taking root in police departments across the country today, rendering the Exclusionary Rule in such cases unnecessary.

Old Tony has a really well-developed sense of humor. Once he gets done facilitating the police state, perhaps he should consider a career in stand-up comedy.

Molon Labe
08-08-2008, 09:44 AM
Old Tony has a really well-developed sense of humor. Once he gets done facilitating the police state, perhaps he should consider a career in stand-up comedy.

I'm starting to wonder about him myself.

Rebel Yell
08-08-2008, 09:52 AM
Here is the numbers on where I live..

The county. We have some crime, mostly in Ashburn. We may have 2 or three murders per year. Mostly theft and assault.


Turner County, GA

Demographics
As of the census[2] of 2000, there were 9,504 people, 3,435 households, and 2,538 families residing in the county. The population density was 33 people per square mile (13/kmē). There were 3,916 housing units at an average density of 14 per square mile (5/kmē). The racial makeup of the county was 20.98% White, 70.37% Black or African American, 0.15% Native American, 0.33% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 1.81% from other races, and 0.36% from two or more races. 2.57% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

There were 3,435 households out of which 35.70% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 50.00% were married couples living together, 18.60% had a female householder with no husband present, and 26.10% were non-families. 23.20% of all households were made up of individuals and 10.40% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.72 and the average family size was 3.19.

In the county the population was spread out with 29.40% under the age of 18, 10.20% from 18 to 24, 26.40% from 25 to 44, 21.10% from 45 to 64, and 12.90% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 33 years. For every 100 females there were 92.60 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 87.00 males.

The median income for a household in the county was $25,676, and the median income for a family was $31,445. Males had a median income of $25,694 versus $18,472 for females. The per capita income for the county was $13,454. About 20.50% of families and 26.70% of the population were below the poverty line, including 35.80% of those under age 18 and 24.80% of those age 65 or over.

Sycamore, where I live, basically NO CRIME. We have one city cop, and he just patrols and writes traffic citations.


As of the census[1] of 2000, there were 496 people, 186 households, and 135 families residing in the city. The population density was 497.4 people per square mile (191.5/kmē). There were 209 housing units at an average density of 209.6/sq mi (80.7/kmē). The racial makeup of the city was 81.45% White, 16.73% African American, 1.21% from other races, and 0.60% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.81% of the population.

Ashburn, where I grew up. And where all business is, with the exception of a few convenience stores. 90 - 95% of all the crime in the county is committe in Ashburn. And 90% of that is across the tracks. Literally, across the tracks.


As of the census[1] of 2000, there were 4,419 people, 1,624 households, and 1,117 families residing in the city. The population density was 978.6 people per square mile (377.5/kmē). There were 1,846 housing units at an average density of 408.8/sq mi (157.7/kmē). The racial makeup of the city was 65.22% African American, 32.59% White, 0.09% Native American, 0.23% Asian, 1.65% from other races, and 0.23% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.67% of the population.

It's odd that we are so lawless here that we have people moving here from the big cities to get away from the crime.:rolleyes:

Perhaps we should just nationalize the black neighborhoods in everytown America. Since it's lawlessness that should trigger this, the ghetto would be a great place to start. Oh, that's right, it basically already is. I know when I ride through there, I see LOTS of people sitting around on the porch not working.

lacarnut
08-08-2008, 09:54 AM
We should nationalize small town America and just run them by proxy from the nearest major city to ensure things dont get too bad. Let them live in the lawless tribal fasion they so clearly desire, as long as they produce and dont affect life where the important people live.

If that's the case, the Feds should take over corrupt big cities like Chicago, New Orleans, Detroit, to clean up the graft, corruption and out of control police.

LogansPapa
08-08-2008, 10:33 AM
Shooting labs. Gutsy move, Sherlocks. :rolleyes:

noonwitch
08-08-2008, 01:20 PM
If that's the case, the Feds should take over corrupt big cities like Chicago, New Orleans, Detroit, to clean up the graft, corruption and out of control police.


I don't think that it would be such a bad idea at this point in Detroit.

Theophilus
08-08-2008, 04:53 PM
If your home is raided by the police, it is SOP across the country to shoot the dogs - first thing. Why is the MP5 nicknamed the hush puppy?That's not funny and if that's SOP it was written by a complete idiot. Thankfully not ALL LEOs are idiots

OwlMBA
08-08-2008, 11:01 PM
We had a situation in Ohio where the cops served a no-knock warrant in plain clothes at 3am. The guy thought he was getting robbed and starting shooting, the cops shot back hitting him 39 times. He was DOA.

The reason for the warrant "receiving stolen property". They found none.

No charges were filed against the victim or any cops. An "internal review" found no wrongdoing. Case closed.

Unfortunately the dead guy was white so we didnt have any activists here demanding justice. I wish we would have.

OwlMBA
08-08-2008, 11:03 PM
Here is the numbers on where I live..

The county. We have some crime, mostly in Ashburn. We may have 2 or three murders per year. Mostly theft and assault.



Sycamore, where I live, basically NO CRIME. We have one city cop, and he just patrols and writes traffic citations.



Ashburn, where I grew up. And where all business is, with the exception of a few convenience stores. 90 - 95% of all the crime in the county is committe in Ashburn. And 90% of that is across the tracks. Literally, across the tracks.



It's odd that we are so lawless here that we have people moving here from the big cities to get away from the crime.:rolleyes:

Perhaps we should just nationalize the black neighborhoods in everytown America. Since it's lawlessness that should trigger this, the ghetto would be a great place to start. Oh, that's right, it basically already is. I know when I ride through there, I see LOTS of people sitting around on the porch not working.

My town is 99.5% white. We have not had a murder in 12 years. Our per capita murder rate is 0. Our crime rate is among the lowest in Ohio.

Rebel Yell
08-11-2008, 09:23 AM
My town is 99.5% white. We have not had a murder in 12 years. Our per capita murder rate is 0. Our crime rate is among the lowest in Ohio.

But that is just a coincidence, I'm sure.:rolleyes:

marinejcksn
08-12-2008, 02:54 AM
But that is just a coincidence, I'm sure.:rolleyes:

Where I grew up my parents still leave the doors unlocked at night, remember those days? Biggest crime we have in Southern Lancaster County, Pa is small local vandalism or punk teenagers stealing stuff from the Amish. :p