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PoliCon
06-22-2010, 01:53 PM
Tuesday, June 22, 2010
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U.S. voters think Hillary Clinton is more qualified to be president than Barack Obama, but most believe that both Democrats are more fit for the White House than three top Republicans interested in the job.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 57% of voters feel Clinton is qualified to be president, but 34% disagree and say she is not.

As for President Obama, 51% say he is fit for the job. However, 44% say he is not qualified to be president, even though he has now served 17 months in the job.

Nearly as many (49%) say former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, an unsuccessful candidate for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, is qualified to be president of the United States. Thirty-two percent (32%) say Romney is not qualified, but another 20% are not sure.

Just 35% of voters say former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is qualified to be the nation’s chief executive. Nearly half (48%) say Gingrich is not fit for the office. Seventeen percent (17%) are undecided.

As for Sarah Palin, ex-governor of Alaska and the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, only 26% feel she is qualified to be president, but 61% do not. Thirteen percent (13%) are not sure.

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The survey of 1,000 Likely U.S. Voters was conducted on June 17-18, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/-3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Male voters rate Romney and Clinton first and virtual equals in terms of qualifications. Female voters see Clinton first, Obama second.

Younger voters put Obama well ahead of the others.

The partisan differences are predictable. Sixty-eight percent (68%) of GOP voters rate Romney as qualified to be president, followed by 53% who say the same of Gingrich. Republican voters are evenly divided over whether Palin is fit to be president. But they view all three Republicans as more qualified than Clinton or Obama.

Nearly 80% of Democrats, on the other hand, view Obama and Clinton as qualified, but they overwhelmingly believe that Gingrich and Palin are not. Democrats are more closely divided over Romney’s qualifications.

Perhaps most telling are the responses of voters not affiliated with either major party. Sixty-one percent (61%) say Clinton is qualified for the White House, and a plurality (48%) say the same of Obama and Romney. Gingrich is a close call for unaffiliateds, but by better than two-to-one, they say Palin is not fit to be president.

Sixty-four percent (64%) of all voters say it is at least somewhat likely that the next president will be a Republican, with 40% who say it is Very Likely. But it’s important to note that the question does not say whether this president will be elected in 2012 or 2016.

Fifty-eight percent (58%) have a favorable opinion of Clinton, while 41% view her unfavorably.

Late last October, 27% of voters said Clinton would be doing a better job as president if she had been elected instead of Obama. Fourteen percent (14%) said she would be doing worse, and 49% said the two would be performing about the same.

According to the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll today, 46% of voters nationwide say they at least somewhat approve of Obama’s performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove.

Seventy-two percent (72%) of Republican voters continue to believe that GOP members of Congress have lost touch with the party base throughout the nation over the past several years. By contrast, 61% of Democratic voters think their representatives in Congress have done a good job of representing Democratic values over the past several years.

Fifty-nine percent (59%) of GOP voters believes Palin shares the values of most GOP voters throughout the nation.

Romney has consistently run stronger than Gingrich and Palin among both Republicans and voters in general in surveys over the past year.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/june_2010/voters_say_hillary_more_qualified_to_be_president_ than_obama_romney_gingrich_palin

I hope those pushing Palin, Romney, and Newt wake up and realize that not only are the unacceptable as candidates to the left - they're also unacceptable as candidates to much of the center and the right as well.

m00
06-22-2010, 02:29 PM
I hope those pushing Palin, Romney, and Newt wake up and realize that not only are the unacceptable as candidates to the left - they're also unacceptable as candidates to much of the center and the right as well.

Amen brother.

fettpett
06-22-2010, 03:29 PM
I feel the same, Newt has gone to far left, Romney has always been a RINO, and People don't respect Palin.

I think we need someone who's dealt with a failing economy and turned it around. Mitch Daniels fits that bill and isn't tied as closely to Bush as he left to run for Indiana Governor before Iraq and Afghanistan got too out of hand.

m00
06-22-2010, 03:35 PM
I think we need someone who's dealt with a failing economy and turned it around.

I think the problem is both parties have long since put "doing whats best for the party" over "doing whats best for the country." Reagan was a high water mark for Republicans, and JFK for Democrats. At least Reagan was in my lifetime. It's been far too long since we've seen candidates in either party of that caliber. What's really sad is the best Democrat president since JFK has been Clinton (in my opinion).

lacarnut
06-22-2010, 03:38 PM
This poll is such bull shit, it is not even funny. Sadly most American don't vote for the most qualified person for President. Many that voted for Obama did so because he was new, fresh, clean, attractive, articulate and had a bunch of bs with him. Romney reminds me of Obama. Same shit.

At least Palin is a conservative who would attempt to make drastic changes like she did in AK. Newt and Romney would put a band aid on our run away debt and spending. Romney is a damn Yankee who signed health care in MA. People in the Repub party are stupid if they support this turd. I think Newt has gotten soft in the head when he comes out with crap like Pisslosi is a nice person.

PoliCon
06-22-2010, 03:59 PM
I think Newt has gotten soft in the head when he comes out with crap like Pisslosi is a nice person. Reality is - she may well be a nice person. I frankly do not care. What I care about are her principles and policy agenda. On those, she's repulsive.

Rebel Yell
06-22-2010, 04:01 PM
That's what the polls said two years ago, too.

lacarnut
06-22-2010, 04:24 PM
Reality is - she may well be a nice person. I frankly do not care. What I care about are her principles and policy agenda. On those, she's repulsive.

What principles and policy does she repulse you?
Lower taxes
Smaller government
Strong defense
A balanced budget
Refunds from oil revenue dished out to the citizens.
More knowledge about the oil industry than any of the dunces in DC

BTW, if McCain had won, she would have taken this oil disaster by the horns and gotten help from any source she could muster.. You are an idiot if you think not!

PoliCon
06-22-2010, 04:26 PM
What principles and policy does she repulse you?
Lower taxes
Smaller government
Strong defense
A balanced budget
Refunds from oil revenue dished out to the citizens.
More knowledge about the oil industry than any of the dunces in DC

BTW, if McCain had won, she would have taken this oil disaster by the horns and gotten help from any source she could muster.. You are an idiot if you think not!

Go back and read my post again - and pay special attention to the post I quoted. :rolleyes: Old people. sheesh. :rolleyes:

fettpett
06-22-2010, 04:28 PM
Go back and read my post again - and pay special attention to the post I quoted. :rolleyes: Old people. sheesh. :rolleyes:

what do you expect from that generation? we're lucky (or not) he can use the computer, let alone have coherent thoughts :D :p

Right-Wing Conspirator
06-22-2010, 04:37 PM
What principles and policy does she repulse you?
Lower taxes
Smaller government
Strong defense
A balanced budget
Refunds from oil revenue dished out to the citizens.
More knowledge about the oil industry than any of the dunces in DC

BTW, if McCain had won, she would have taken this oil disaster by the horns and gotten help from any source she could muster.. You are an idiot if you think not!

he was talking about Pelousi:D

PoliCon
06-22-2010, 05:35 PM
what do you expect from that generation? we're lucky (or not) he can use the computer, let alone have coherent thoughts :D :p

silly old people. :rolleyes:

lacarnut
06-22-2010, 05:51 PM
Go back and read my post again - and pay special attention to the post I quoted. :rolleyes: Old people. sheesh. :rolleyes:

My bad, sorry.

namvet
06-22-2010, 05:53 PM
hmmm if a woman were prez.....think about it

R3HK_rwFUHs

lacarnut
06-22-2010, 05:59 PM
what do you expect from that generation? we're lucky (or not) he can use the computer, let alone have coherent thoughts :D :p

I capitalize sentences and understand how to punctuate. Something young uns like you are too stupid to do. Plus, if you do not like my posts, don't read them.

fettpett
06-22-2010, 07:33 PM
I capitalize sentences and understand how to punctuate. Something young uns like you are too stupid to do. Plus, if you do not like my posts, don't read them.

just like an old person to get bent out of shape about a joke :p :D

lacarnut
06-22-2010, 10:44 PM
just like an old person to get bent out of shape about a joke :p :D

Get to cracking Sonny Boy; you need to make more money to pay for my SS, Medicare and Prescription Drugs.:cool::)

Speedy
06-22-2010, 11:40 PM
Hillary is a familiar name and of course she is going to be a frontrunner. But have people forgotten? Her platform was identical to Obama's. What is she going to campaign on? The only reason Obama got cnosen was because he was black and Hillary was not. On every issue their stance was identical.

lacarnut
06-22-2010, 11:49 PM
Hillary is a familiar name and of course she is going to be a frontrunner. But have people forgotten? Her platform was identical to Obama's. What is she going to campaign on? The only reason Obama got cnosen was because he was black and Hillary was not. On every issue their stance was identical.

I don't think she will run against the Magic Negro. If she did and won, black voters would be highly pissed, and a large percentage would stay home and not vote. Like you said, there is not a dime's worth of difference between the two of them.

fettpett
06-23-2010, 12:45 AM
Get to cracking Sonny Boy; you need to make more money to pay for my SS, Medicare and Prescription Drugs.:cool::)

go back to work and get your own damn money :p

lacarnut
06-23-2010, 01:09 AM
go back to work and get your own damn money :p

Naw, I have enough money. Getting SS is just topping on the cake.:D

PoliCon
06-23-2010, 01:17 AM
My bad, sorry.

it's okay. You're entitled to a senior moment or two . . . just stop having them so often. :p

lacarnut
06-23-2010, 01:24 AM
it's okay. You're entitled to a senior moment or two . . . just stop having them so often. :p

Bite me, shorty:)

PoliCon
06-23-2010, 01:51 AM
Bite me, shorty:)

Too hard to get past all the wrinkles. :p

lacarnut
06-23-2010, 01:56 AM
Too hard to get past all the wrinkles. :p

I am sure you could manage.

NJCardFan
06-23-2010, 02:14 AM
U.S. voters think Hillary Clinton is more qualified to be president than Barack Obama, but most believe that both Democrats are more fit for the White House than three top Republicans interested in the job.
I wish someone would please tell me her qualifications. She was married to the president? By that logic, she's no more qualified than Laura Bush, who would make twice the President that she would.

lacarnut
06-23-2010, 03:27 AM
I wish someone would please tell me her qualifications. She was married to the president? By that logic, she's no more qualified than Laura Bush, who would make twice the President that she would.

Qualifications do not matter to many voters which is quite sad.

Right-Wing Conspirator
06-23-2010, 09:39 AM
Hillary is a familiar name and of course she is going to be a frontrunner. But have people forgotten? Her platform was identical to Obama's. What is she going to campaign on? The only reason Obama got cnosen was because he was black and Hillary was not. On every issue their stance was identical.

Let me ask you this-

to use a sports analogy, who is generally the most popular player on a football team (with, or course, a few notable exceptions, one being my Pats)? The b/u QB. Hillary, at this point, is the political equivalent of the backup QB. A lot of Dems and Indies that voted for Dr. Zero have buyer's remorse and wish they had voted for her, probably enough in fact that she could very likely wrest the nomination from him should she choose to run in '12.

That being said, I think the general campaign would remind people of all the things they don't like about her. Her negatives have always been over 50%, and you can't win like that. I do, however, think she would have at least been smart enough to waive the Jones Act.

noonwitch
06-23-2010, 09:59 AM
I like Hillary and voted for her in the 2008 primary. I still think she'd be better than Obama as President.

That said, I don't think it's true that she has more experience than Newt or Romney. Newt just doesn't have recent experience in office, but he has a fairly long career in politics. I don't even like him.

Romney has less experience than Newt, but was a governor, so he has worked in an executive role before. I'd say his experience as Governor is equal to Hillary's as a Senator.


Palin, on the other hand, is inexperienced. She has less experience than Obama. She quit her job as Governor of a state with a very small population mid-term. She's not getting any more political experience working as a FOX news contributor.

Right-Wing Conspirator
06-23-2010, 10:31 AM
I like Hillary and voted for her in the 2008 primary. I still think she'd be better than Obama as President.

That said, I don't think it's true that she has more experience than Newt or Romney. Newt just doesn't have recent experience in office, but he has a fairly long career in politics. I don't even like him.

Romney has less experience than Newt, but was a governor, so he has worked in an executive role before. I'd say his experience as Governor is equal to Hillary's as a Senator.


Palin, on the other hand, is inexperienced. She has less experience than Obama. She quit her job as Governor of a state with a very small population mid-term. She's not getting any more political experience working as a FOX news contributor.

how does she have less experience then Obama? Obama was a 1-term state senator, and served 2 years in the US Senate (and I'll correct that to say "held the seat", as he was rarely there). Population size has nothing to do with experience as governor. Vermont has a smaller population then Alaska, yet nobody said anything about that when Dean ran in '04. Deleware has a smaller population then Alaska, yet Biden is qualified...having never even served as governor.

No senator, not matter how long they serve, gains the experience that one gains serving as a governor. Senators do not make executive decisions, governors do. Senators are not responsible for overseeing budgets, governors are. IMO, a president who has never held any type of executive or command position (be it governor, mayor, or senior level military officer) is poorly equipped to perform the duties of the office. A quick glance back through history at those who have gone directly from the Senate to the White House without any of the type of experience I mentioned above (current occupant emphatically included) will bear this out.

NJCardFan
06-23-2010, 01:04 PM
Romney has less experience than Newt, but was a governor, so he has worked in an executive role before. I'd say his experience as Governor is equal to Hillary's as a Senator.
You're kidding, right?

PoliCon
06-23-2010, 01:23 PM
I wish someone would please tell me her qualifications. She was married to the president? By that logic, she's no more qualified than Laura Bush, who would make twice the President that she would.

Her qualifications are quite simple: She has all the proper beliefs and position for the left.

Kay
06-23-2010, 02:41 PM
She's in the news today for telling all the State Dept staff to go forth and encourage all teenagers they know that it is good and ok to be homosexual. WTF.....I don't think it is in their job description to push her socialist gay agenda on the public.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/68245

“So I think that each and everyone of you, not only professionally, particularly from State and USAID and every bureau and every embassy and every part of our government have to do what you can to create that safe space, but also personally, to really look for those who might need a helping hand; particularly young people; particularly teenagers who still today have such a difficult time,” she added.

noonwitch
06-23-2010, 02:47 PM
I wish someone would please tell me her qualifications. She was married to the president? By that logic, she's no more qualified than Laura Bush, who would make twice the President that she would.


You could say that before she served a term and a half as a senator. If Laura Bush ran successfully for a senate seat and served 8 years, she'd be as qualified. The main difference seems to be that Laura Bush doesn't want a career in politics, and Hillary does.


Hillary is more qualified than Lynn Cheney, and I've read her name mentioned on this site as a potential candidate. Lynn Cheney's views are just more popular with conservatives. I actually like Lynn Cheney, because she's funny. She was hilarious when she appeared on The Daily Show.

Right-Wing Conspirator
06-23-2010, 03:12 PM
You're kidding, right?

I love that equivalency. Being a Senator is NOTHING like being a governor. A comment like that shows a real lack of understanding of the legislative/executive process of government by the poster.

PoliCon
06-23-2010, 04:06 PM
She's in the news today for telling all the State Dept staff to go forth and encourage all teenagers they know that it is good and ok to be homosexual. WTF.....I don't think it is in their job description to push her socialist gay agenda on the public.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/68245

“So I think that each and everyone of you, not only professionally, particularly from State and USAID and every bureau and every embassy and every part of our government have to do what you can to create that safe space, but also personally, to really look for those who might need a helping hand; particularly young people; particularly teenagers who still today have such a difficult time,” she added.

The left need the regular campaign contributions from homosexuals who do tend to have much more by way of disposable income than the rest of the democrats base.

noonwitch
06-23-2010, 04:11 PM
I love that equivalency. Being a Senator is NOTHING like being a governor. A comment like that shows a real lack of understanding of the legislative/executive process of government by the poster.



Oh, please, I've been working for the state for 23 years. Being a good governor is all about picking the right people to work for you.

m00
06-23-2010, 04:20 PM
Oh, please, I've been working for the state for 23 years. Being a good governor is all about picking the right people to work for you.

That's true for any executive position, anywhere. Business or otherwise.

Right-Wing Conspirator
06-23-2010, 04:38 PM
Oh, please, I've been working for the state for 23 years. Being a good governor is all about picking the right people to work for you.

like I couldn't have guessed that by the way you think that a legislator is best qualified to make executive level decisions.

All you've done with this post is further re-enforce your lack of understanding of the difference between the legislative and executive branches of government.

A president, is, for all intents and purposes, a CEO...as is a governor. Good CEOs do 2 things well-

1). provide vision and leadership towards a desired end or result

2). effectively delegate responsibility

tell me exactly how a Senator does this?

fettpett
06-23-2010, 11:12 PM
like I couldn't have guessed that by the way you think that a legislator is best qualified to make executive level decisions.

All you've done with this post is further re-enforce your lack of understanding of the difference between the legislative and executive branches of government.

A president, is, for all intents and purposes, a CEO...as is a governor. Good CEOs do 2 things well-

1). provide vision and leadership towards a desired end or result

2). effectively delegate responsibility

tell me exactly how a Senator does this?

lead their staff on how to hide money in their freezers?

lacarnut
06-24-2010, 12:22 AM
lead their staff on how to hide money in their freezers?

and take as many globe trotting excursions around the world as humanly possible. The entourage of Congressional critters to the Global Warming Expo is a perfect example of how to piss away taxpayer's money. Hillary has perfected that with her junkets. She makes the rest of those in Congress look like amateurs. Yeah, the Queen is qualified. Not.

noonwitch
06-24-2010, 11:38 AM
like I couldn't have guessed that by the way you think that a legislator is best qualified to make executive level decisions.

All you've done with this post is further re-enforce your lack of understanding of the difference between the legislative and executive branches of government.

A president, is, for all intents and purposes, a CEO...as is a governor. Good CEOs do 2 things well-

1). provide vision and leadership towards a desired end or result

2). effectively delegate responsibility

tell me exactly how a Senator does this?


I have a very good understanding of the differences between the legislative and executive branches of government. I also think that smart people will succeed at either. A former legislator who becomes an executive will know who to go to to get his or her agenda through.


You might hate Hillary Clinton for her politics, but she is a smart woman.

PoliCon
06-24-2010, 08:07 PM
You might hate Hillary Clinton for her politics, but she is a smart woman. yea marrying Bill was smart.

lacarnut
06-24-2010, 08:59 PM
I have a very good understanding of the differences between the legislative and executive branches of government. I also think that smart people will succeed at either. A former legislator who becomes an executive will know who to go to to get his or her agenda through.


You might hate Hillary Clinton for her politics, but she is a smart woman.

Hot damn. I just knew it; all liberals are smart. Not. However, most of them do not have enough common sense to pour piss out of a boot. BTW, she is so smart she did not know the $100,000 under the table money for Whitewater was reportable for Federal Income Tax purposes. Oh, and Bill did not know anything about it either. Then she and Bubba had the nerve to steal furniture and paintings from the WH when they left that had to be returned. The last thing this country does not need is another crass CROOK.

noonwitch
06-25-2010, 09:39 AM
Hot damn. I just knew it; all liberals are smart. Not. However, most of them do not have enough common sense to pour piss out of a boot. BTW, she is so smart she did not know the $100,000 under the table money for Whitewater was reportable for Federal Income Tax purposes. Oh, and Bill did not know anything about it either. Then she and Bubba had the nerve to steal furniture and paintings from the WH when they left that had to be returned. The last thing this country does not need is another crass CROOK.


You know that the GAO accounting report found that the allegations of the Clintons and their staff trashing the White House before leaving were false. The missing Ws from the keyboards falls under the category of "practical joke", or "good natured ribbing". I guess if Rush repeats a lie enough, some people will always believe it.

Did she or Bill ever get convicted of anything as far as Whitewater was concerned? Do you really think that Bill and Hillary have a romantic marriage?

I never said all liberals were smart, I said Hillary was smart. There are conservatives I think are smart. Like I said earlier, I like Lynn Cheney because she's smart. I liked Jack Kemp and Paul Henry, who was my state rep in Grand Rapids. I like Vern Ehlers. Nixon was a brilliant man. I liked WF Buckley.

For me to say that all liberals are smart, or smarter than all conservatives would involve totally ignoring the existence of DU. Even you, losernuts, are far more intelligent than most of the posters there.

lacarnut
06-25-2010, 02:52 PM
You know that the GAO accounting report found that the allegations of the Clintons and their staff trashing the White House before leaving were false. The missing Ws from the keyboards falls under the category of "practical joke", or "good natured ribbing". I guess if Rush repeats a lie enough, some people will always believe it.

Did she or Bill ever get convicted of anything as far as Whitewater was concerned? Do you really think that Bill and Hillary have a romantic marriage?

I never said all liberals were smart, I said Hillary was smart. There are conservatives I think are smart. Like I said earlier, I like Lynn Cheney because she's smart. I liked Jack Kemp and Paul Henry, who was my state rep in Grand Rapids. I like Vern Ehlers. Nixon was a brilliant man. I liked WF Buckley.

For me to say that all liberals are smart, or smarter than all conservatives would involve totally ignoring the existence of DU. Even you, losernuts, are far more intelligent than most of the posters there.

The facts are that the Clintons removed furniture, rugs, etc that did not belong to them. I classify that as stealing. They knew that gifts given to them while in office belongs to the state. Like MOST politicians they think the laws do not apply to them and that they are something special. Hiding and not reporting $100,000 of income from the IRS is stealing. The authorities put people in jail for tax evasion. She was not prosecuted for this crime because of her position as First Lady. Same for her husband. They are both crooks in my opinion. She is not fit to serve. Marc Rich is also a stain on the Clintons. You don't think that was not a big payoff for them? All the brains in the world is not going to change that. Like I said, many intelligent people do not have a lick of common sense. Therefore, you do not have to be brilliant to be president. Harry Truman is a case in point.

PoliCon
06-25-2010, 02:57 PM
You know that the GAO accounting report found that the allegations of the Clintons and their staff trashing the White House before leaving were false. He's not said that. He said they took things that weren't theirs.