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NJCardFan
07-28-2010, 12:54 PM
This season is taking a turn that has me scratching my head. They are playing up the gay angle much too much. We all know that Lafayette is gay(and in the previous 2 seasons was the best character aside from his cousin Tara) but to now have Eric Northman playing up the gay angle with the king of Mississippi and his man? C'mon. Enough of the homo stuff already. And do we need to see Lafayette kissing a dude? Also, they're delving into the dog fighting thing so this is a wait and see. However, they've depicted Christians as a bunch of hateful bigots with small minds which is strange considering their concerns on the show are very much warranted(they're afraid that the vamps just want to kill all of humanity...and this is true for most). Am I off base here?

noonwitch
07-28-2010, 01:05 PM
No, I think that it's been clear from the beginning that vampires' battle for rights is an analogy for the status of gay rights in society. They have the "God hates fangs" sign in the credits, which is a definite take on Fred Phelps "God hates fags" signs.

Most modern vampires in fiction are bisexual. Anne Rice's are, and most modern vampire writers are imitating her to some degree (ironic, since she has since renounced it all since having a spiritual awakening). Although, AR's vampires couldn't have sex-drinking blood was not just about food, it was also their sex.


HBO pushes buttons on their shows, whether it's about sex, violence or religion. The Sopranos showed all kinds of incredible violence-I'm still afraid of public parking structures after the very realistic scene of Tony's shrink getting raped in one. Big Love is pissing off Mormons.

The scene of the girl getting gang-banged by the werewolves a few weeks ago was somewhat disturbing.

djones520
07-28-2010, 01:10 PM
Hell... Anne Rice blew homosexual vampires out of the water. She even crossed into pedophilic vampires.

No agenda NJ. This is just how vampires are today. Nothing to be feared anymore. Just something to find in a San Francisco night club.

I've always said they needed to do a Supernatural Episode in NW Washington....

Speedy
07-28-2010, 01:19 PM
This season is taking a turn that has me scratching my head. They are playing up the gay angle much too much. We all know that Lafayette is gay(and in the previous 2 seasons was the best character aside from his cousin Tara) but to now have Eric Northman playing up the gay angle with the king of Mississippi and his man? C'mon. Enough of the homo stuff already. And do we need to see Lafayette kissing a dude? Also, they're delving into the dog fighting thing so this is a wait and see. However, they've depicted Christians as a bunch of hateful bigots with small minds which is strange considering their concerns on the show are very much warranted(they're afraid that the vamps just want to kill all of humanity...and this is true for most). Am I off base here?

One of the best portrayals of a Christian I have seen of late by Hollywood was the character FBI Special Agent Danny Witwer played by Colin Farrell in Minority Report.

aerojarod
07-28-2010, 02:46 PM
As long as they keep showing Anna Paquin's mommy muffins, I couldn't care less!

warpig
07-28-2010, 05:57 PM
What was once considered to be a curse and the embodyment of evil now is trying to be portrayed as good and acceptable.............I don't see any agenda there.....:rolleyes:

Zafod
07-28-2010, 07:31 PM
As long as they keep showing Anna Paquin's mommy muffins, I couldn't care less!

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NJCardFan
07-29-2010, 04:08 AM
What was once considered to be a curse and the embodyment of evil now is trying to be portrayed as good and acceptable.............I don't see any agenda there.....:rolleyes:

And the vampires still kidnap humans and feed off of them. This season started off with Jessica having killed a guy. Bill absconded a stripper for him, Lorena, and Eddington to feed off of and more than likely killed her(Bill finding out that she has no family so she won't be missed). And they're still portraying Christians to all be fundie bigots even though, as I pointed out, their fears are not unwarranted. I do believe they have an agenda.

BadCat
07-29-2010, 06:20 PM
And the vampires still kidnap humans and feed off of them. This season started off with Jessica having killed a guy. Bill absconded a stripper for him, Lorena, and Eddington to feed off of and more than likely killed her(Bill finding out that she has no family so she won't be missed). And they're still portraying Christians to all be fundie bigots even though, as I pointed out, their fears are not unwarranted. I do believe they have an agenda.

Nah, it's written by Alan Ball, who also did the excellent "Six Feet Under".

Alan apparently has a "gay thing".

noonwitch
07-30-2010, 10:54 AM
And the vampires still kidnap humans and feed off of them. This season started off with Jessica having killed a guy. Bill absconded a stripper for him, Lorena, and Eddington to feed off of and more than likely killed her(Bill finding out that she has no family so she won't be missed). And they're still portraying Christians to all be fundie bigots even though, as I pointed out, their fears are not unwarranted. I do believe they have an agenda.



Jessica is learning. She's a new vampire. She didn't kill the obnoxious woman in the restaurant, at least not yet.

I never read Charlaine Harris' books, so I don't know whether all christians are lumped in with the "Fellowship of the Sun". I don't know if that is the intention of the writers of the show at this point, but as you pointed out, their fears are not exactly unwarranted.


I have been loving the "post mortems" though. The mock ad for the show about Vikings and Eric was pretty cool.

NJCardFan
07-30-2010, 11:53 AM
Jessica is learning. She's a new vampire. She didn't kill the obnoxious woman in the restaurant, at least not yet.

I never read Charlaine Harris' books, so I don't know whether all christians are lumped in with the "Fellowship of the Sun". I don't know if that is the intention of the writers of the show at this point, but as you pointed out, their fears are not exactly unwarranted.


I have been loving the "post mortems" though. The mock ad for the show about Vikings and Eric was pretty cool.

The upcoming episode looks interesting with what appears to be Bill in sunlight and not getting hurt.

NJCardFan
08-10-2010, 01:11 AM
OK, it's now obvious that they have an agenda and I found out why. They had a little show on True Blood and the producers are very gay.

NJCardFan
08-23-2010, 12:30 AM
OK, now they have burning crosses on the lawns of vampires. This is getting ridiculous.

noonwitch
08-24-2010, 03:56 PM
OK, now they have burning crosses on the lawns of vampires. This is getting ridiculous.



Okay, let's suspend all sense of reality for a few minutes and pretend that there really are vampires out there who feed upon human blood and are seeking equal rights under US law.

Wouldn't most christians be opposed to that? Wouldn't most people of any religion want to put them in a silver cage, and pull that cage out into the brightest sunlight? And, since in fiction and folklore traditions, vampires can be kept at bay with a crucifix and destroyed by fire, wouldn't burning a cross on their front yard be the appropriate symbology (unlike the klan's use of the burning cross)?

True Blood is telling at least part of the story from the vampires' point of view, so it is more sympathetic to them than we would be if there really were vampires. If there were really such a thing, it would be humans fighting for their survival-we'd kill as many as we could, and keep a couple in some kind of secure lab for research.

Rebel Yell
08-24-2010, 04:55 PM
Okay, let's suspend all sense of reality for a few minutes and pretend that there really are vampires out there who feed upon human blood and are seeking equal rights under US law.

Wouldn't most christians be opposed to that? Wouldn't most people of any religion want to put them in a silver cage, and pull that cage out into the brightest sunlight? And, since in fiction and folklore traditions, vampires can be kept at bay with a crucifix and destroyed by fire, wouldn't burning a cross on their front yard be the appropriate symbology (unlike the klan's use of the burning cross)?

True Blood is telling at least part of the story from the vampires' point of view, so it is more sympathetic to them than we would be if there really were vampires. If there were really such a thing, it would be humans fighting for their survival-we'd kill as many as we could, and keep a couple in some kind of secure lab for research.

Or maybe Blacks are the vampires, sucking the life blood from everyone else. Just Sayin'.

malloc
08-24-2010, 05:23 PM
I just enjoy the show and try not to read too much into the agenda. Reading into the agenda completely ruined Avatar for me, so that lesson is learned.

BadCat
08-24-2010, 05:29 PM
It's been WAY too gay this season, but on the plus side, Anna finally got naked again.

Now, if Ms. Woll would oblige....

NJCardFan
08-24-2010, 07:41 PM
Okay, let's suspend all sense of reality for a few minutes and pretend that there really are vampires out there who feed upon human blood and are seeking equal rights under US law.

Wouldn't most christians be opposed to that? Wouldn't most people of any religion want to put them in a silver cage, and pull that cage out into the brightest sunlight? And, since in fiction and folklore traditions, vampires can be kept at bay with a crucifix and destroyed by fire, wouldn't burning a cross on their front yard be the appropriate symbology (unlike the klan's use of the burning cross)?

True Blood is telling at least part of the story from the vampires' point of view, so it is more sympathetic to them than we would be if there really were vampires. If there were really such a thing, it would be humans fighting for their survival-we'd kill as many as we could, and keep a couple in some kind of secure lab for research.

Oh, so you think this is the producers intent huh?

noonwitch
08-25-2010, 08:47 AM
Oh, so you think this is the producers intent huh?



No, I think their intentions fall more into providing entertainment that borders on pornographic because they can get away with it on a subscription cable channel. I do agree with you overall that there is a gay agenda behind some of it, but as I haven't read the novels that the show is based on, I don't know if that is part of the story to begin with. As I posted earlier, I think that the show is presenting the vampires' movement to request equal rights as an analogy for the gay rights movement in the real-life USA.

NJCardFan
08-25-2010, 11:17 AM
No, I think their intentions fall more into providing entertainment that borders on pornographic because they can get away with it on a subscription cable channel. I do agree with you overall that there is a gay agenda behind some of it, but as I haven't read the novels that the show is based on, I don't know if that is part of the story to begin with. As I posted earlier, I think that the show is presenting the vampires' movement to request equal rights as an analogy for the gay rights movement in the real-life USA.

My wife is reading the books and she says that there is nary any gayness in the books. In fact, Lafayette gets killed off in the beginning of the 2nd book. He's the dead body found in Andy's car when on the series it was the fake voodoo woman.

Nubs
08-25-2010, 11:32 AM
I just see it as a story. Like Hansel and Gretle is just a story and not a manifesto for the advancement of the pedophillic cannabilsm societies of the early 1900's.