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Gingersnap
08-12-2008, 10:51 AM
Ron Paulís wife in ICU
Paul cancels Victoria trip to stay with wife, Carol

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BY BRANDON L. LEONARD - BLEONARD@VICAD.COM
August 11, 2008 - 10:33 p.m.

Congressman Ron Paul canceled his Monday trip to Victoria to stay with his wife, who was in a Houston hospital intensive care unit after being hospitalized Thursday, a Paul spokesperson reported.

Spokeswoman Rachel Mills would not provide further information on Carol Paulís condition, saying the family wished to keep it a private affair.

Carol Paul, known for her support and interest in Paulís campaigns, was hospitalized for a pre-existing heart condition on Aug. 11, 2007. Doctors implanted a pacemaker, and she recovered without complications.

Victoria Advocate (http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/793/story/295634.html)

Goldwater
08-12-2008, 11:17 AM
Carol is a nice lady. Hope she gets better.

Rebel Yell
08-12-2008, 11:46 AM
I hope she pulls through whatever is ailing her.

Goldwater
08-18-2008, 08:03 PM
Apparently she has made a recovery: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=354.

Phillygirl
08-18-2008, 08:09 PM
While I feel sympathy for any person undergoing a serious health problem, I particularly feel sorry for their spouse. It must be a horrible feeling to worry about such a close loved one. Glad to hear that apparently she is doing well.

jinxmchue
08-18-2008, 08:38 PM
Apparently she has made a recovery: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=354.

Unlike her husband.

:D

I thank you.

John
08-19-2008, 06:17 AM
Unlike her husband.

:D

I thank you.

So, by divvying up the warchest, setting up a PAC for like minded local politicians, laying a rich foundation for future libertarian conservatives, he's all but gone from the political landscape. Politics in this country will never hear the name again. Yeah, right. (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/mission/) It's not like the donations that were going to him have been diverted to some PAC that is funneled to people who think like him or something. It's not like 'Ron Paul Republicans' have won congressional primaries or anything. That's just crazy talk.

GrumpyOldLady
08-19-2008, 09:13 AM
Ron Paul is treating his wife right.

This is in sharp contrast to what John Edwards does to his dying wife.

JOHN EDWARDS ... take note.

lacarnut
08-19-2008, 09:42 AM
Ron Paul is treating his wife right.

This is in sharp contrast to what John Edwards does to his dying wife.



JOHN EDWARDS ... take note.

Ron Paul has a heart & a soul.

asdf2231
08-19-2008, 11:46 AM
So, by divvying up the warchest, setting up a PAC for like minded local politicians, laying a rich foundation for future libertarian conservatives, he's all but gone from the political landscape. Politics in this country will never hear the name again. Yeah, right. (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/mission/) It's not like the donations that were going to him have been diverted to some PAC that is funneled to people who think like him or something. It's not like 'Ron Paul Republicans' have won congressional primaries or anything. That's just crazy talk.

You guys are ever hopeful.

That's cute.

jinxmchue
08-19-2008, 01:22 PM
Ron Paul has a heart & a soul.

Obviously working independent of his brain.

:D

Again, I thank you.

John
08-20-2008, 05:26 AM
You guys are ever hopeful.

That's cute.

Cute is fluffy bunnies, stuffed animals and the little hearts that taste like ass but have sentimental statements printed on them. I assure you, the people who are continuing this mission, myself included, are anything but cute. For the most part they are as mean and unforgiving as I am. Maybe that's why we are gaining ground, winning primaries, and sending guys of our choosing to state and county offices. Could be two seats here, three next season, whatever it takes. Meanwhile, left wing republican nation builders and wealth re-distributors like those whom you support are struggling to keep their name from becoming a four letter word among voters.

Hopeful? You wish. If we were merely hopeful we wouldn't be quite so vengeful and angsty. We are going to retake the republican party, and get it back on the track of smaller government and less spending. It will happen in your lifetime, unless you're ridiculously old or something. So, you just sit back and feel all sorts of full of yourself when you call 'us' cute. We're coming to unseat those self-professed RINOs you support, and we are bringing it pretty hard. You'll live to see this entire sham of a political party, filled with ex-socialists, fall on it's face. Maybe you should read more than the headlines, maybe you should see how much money the CfL PAC provides to some small local election in the name of a 'Ron Paul Conservative'. These neocons in local elections are raising 3 maybe 5 thousand dollars. The CfL PAC counters that with 11 to 15 thousand. It's no wonder why are winning primary after primary, and soon race after race.

By all means, remain amused along with whatever it is you are thinking.

IanMartins
08-20-2008, 06:06 AM
Never is the lack of judgement of Ron Paul supporters so obvious as when you visit a Ron Paul fansite. Out of the many houndred pictures of Ron Paul, including ones where he actually looks presidential, they always go with this one -- the one where he looks like a loony circus director. Honestly, this is the picture that they've plastered up on all major fansites -- including the former official election site, as well as the current official "Rally for the Republic" site.

How on earth can they believe that this picture will invoke respect?

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/334/ronpaulcz9.jpg

:rolleyes:

Constitutionally Speaking
08-20-2008, 06:33 AM
Cute is fluffy bunnies, stuffed animals and the little hearts that taste like ass but have sentimental statements printed on them. I assure you, the people who are continuing this mission, myself included, are anything but cute. For the most part they are as mean and unforgiving as I am. Maybe that's why we are gaining ground, winning primaries, and sending guys of our choosing to state and county offices. Could be two seats here, three next season, whatever it takes. Meanwhile, left wing republican nation builders and wealth re-distributors like those whom you support are struggling to keep their name from becoming a four letter word among voters.

Hopeful? You wish. If we were merely hopeful we wouldn't be quite so vengeful and angsty. We are going to retake the republican party, and get it back on the track of smaller government and less spending. It will happen in your lifetime, unless you're ridiculously old or something. So, you just sit back and feel all sorts of full of yourself when you call 'us' cute. We're coming to unseat those self-professed RINOs you support, and we are bringing it pretty hard. You'll live to see this entire sham of a political party, filled with ex-socialists, fall on it's face. Maybe you should read more than the headlines, maybe you should see how much money the CfL PAC provides to some small local election in the name of a 'Ron Paul Conservative'. These neocons in local elections are raising 3 maybe 5 thousand dollars. The CfL PAC counters that with 11 to 15 thousand. It's no wonder why are winning primary after primary, and soon race after race.

By all means, remain amused along with whatever it is you are thinking.


John I hope you are correct and are extremely successful in this effort - UNLESS truther movement is swinging those nominations to kook candidates.

We NEED limited govt. Republicans back in controll.

John
08-20-2008, 07:19 AM
John I hope you are correct and are extremely successful in this effort - UNLESS truther movement is swinging those nominations to kook candidates.

We NEED limited govt. Republicans back in controll.

Google for the Campaign for Liberty website. Everything is pretty well documented there. Who's running in what races, what the status is, what has been contributed, etc.

I can't help the troofers. I think you all know how I feel about that nonsense. I've owned a troofer or two on this very site. However, since the shift in priorities has focused on local politics (i.e. rebuilding from the ground up) , the troofers have taken a hike. Guess real life was just too much for them.

asdf2231
08-20-2008, 09:10 AM
Just keep telling yourself it was the "Troofers" that made Paul and Libertarians in general look like circus geeks.

I'm sure that helps.

biccat
08-20-2008, 10:13 AM
Just keep telling yourself it was the "Troofers" that made Paul and Libertarians in general look like circus geeks.

Wasn't Dr. Paul a troofer?

gator
08-20-2008, 10:18 AM
I don't think Paul would make a particularly good president but I voted for him in the Florida Primaries.

I voted for him mostly as a protest vote against the Republican big government candidates.

Paul doesn't have it right on everything but at least knows the problems, which is more than you can say about anybody else nowadays

asdf2231
08-20-2008, 10:19 AM
Wasn't Dr. Paul a troofer?

:D

I'm sure someone will be along presently to give you a Slim Jim and set you straight.

Molon Labe
08-20-2008, 10:27 AM
Wasn't Dr. Paul a troofer?

No more than McCain is a born again Christian...;) Let's not forget how many of them support McAmnesty.

Goldwater
08-20-2008, 04:50 PM
No more than McCain is a born again Christian...;) Let's not forget how many of them support McAmnesty.

Ouchies, smarts. No one likes to admit it but Obama is the more religious of the two.

Molon Labe
08-20-2008, 05:06 PM
Ouchies, smarts. No one likes to admit it but Obama is the more religious of the two.

True.....and further...
No one would EVER suggest on this board "Hey, I thought McCain was a "Christian Fascist" or "fundamentalist". Yet, here we go with "truther" for Paul. What next..."Terrorist" Obama;
Why not "Hey I thought Romney was polygamist?" :rolleyes:
I 've just found it amusing that many strong Christian's who supported Bush are now ready to latch on to a candidate who clearly has disdain for their values yet blanket others with simpleton b.s.

biccat
08-20-2008, 05:23 PM
Yet, here we go with "truther" for Paul.
An honest question. He kept courting the troofers, so I assumed he was one. Didn't he keep saying that we needed more investigations into the real cause of 9/11?

And doesn't the word "Truther" mean simply someone who doesn't accept the Government's explanation for 9/11? I'm not saying MIHOP or LIHOP.

But at least we know Dr. Paul wasn't a racist!
as long as we ignore his publication of race baiting and outright bigoted statements, and his signature on articles directed towards the same

Molon Labe
08-20-2008, 05:57 PM
An honest question. He kept courting the troofers, so I assumed he was one. Didn't he keep saying that we needed more investigations into the real cause of 9/11?

And doesn't the word "Truther" mean simply someone who doesn't accept the Government's explanation for 9/11? I'm not saying MIHOP or LIHOP.

But at least we know Dr. Paul wasn't a racist!
as long as we ignore his publication of race baiting and outright bigoted statements, and his signature on articles directed towards the same

From what I know, the truthers courted him. He was asked point blank in three debates if he believed that bunk and said he did not. You'll have to show me what you're talking about. I'm unfamiliar with his courting of them.
McCain,on the other hand, is courting conservative Christians, but does not resemble one.

Goldwater
08-20-2008, 06:17 PM
An honest question. He kept courting the troofers, so I assumed he was one.

When did he ever court them?

Take that and the only "troofer" on CU was already an established member who wasn't a Ron Paul supporter.

John
08-21-2008, 07:29 AM
Just keep telling yourself it was the "Troofers" that made Paul and Libertarians in general look like circus geeks.

I'm sure that helps.

Just keep telling yourself that Americans are willing to get poorer and poorer et nauseum in the effort to maintain the current neoconservative party line. If it makes you feel better, continue to believe in these ridiculously collectivist philosophies. You see, under the current direction of the republican party, the middle class of America will no longer be able to afford their standard of living. The 'terrorism' club that Bush and his ilk wield pales in comparison to a voter losing a home or having a car repossessed. When Americans are safe and secure in their financial independence they are much more willing to spread good will by force. When their method of providing for their families is threatened you are going to be very surprised when voters adopt a 'me first' attitude. It's already happening. Voters want a lot of what they lost to governmental policy back. Why do you think this whole Obama love fest exists? He's not really going to solve any problems, but he's sure good at making himself look like he will, and American bread-winners are now grasping at anything that can help them keep their houses and cars and rent-a-center home theaters.



Wasn't Dr. Paul a troofer?


Short answer: No. Long Answer: Paul doesn't think the 9/11 commission was objective in their findings. That doesn't, by any means, translate into 'Paul thinks the U.S. destroyed the WTC!!!'. If you actually read some published articles and transcripts, Paul is concerned about the objectiveness of a critical part of the investigation, the 'why?'. I don't want to speak for Paul, but from what I've gathered, he fully believes in the conclusions the 9/11 commission provided so far as the 'how they did it' is concerned. However, he's not exactly in lock step with the 9/11 commission as to the motivation of the suicide terrorists. He's pretty sure, as am I, that the 9/11 commission candy coated the reasons our enemies are so motivated. I'm no General, but I've got enough war-fighting experience to know that understanding the 'why' is just as important as knowing the 'how'. If you can counter the 'why' as well as the 'how' at the same time, you are removing both the will and means to fight. According to everyone from Sun Tzu to Patton, that is how you break an enemy.

However, the troofers latched on to this as if Paul refuted the 'government story'. It's not the case, but some people will believe what they want to believe irregardless of the circumstances.

biccat
08-21-2008, 08:22 AM
Short answer: No. Long Answer: Paul doesn't think the 9/11 commission was objective in their findings.

Thanks John.

Like I said, I was pretty sure Paul wasn't a MIHOP or LIHOP, but he was questioning points of the official explanation. That makes him a Truther in my eyes, but YMMV.

Molon Labe
08-21-2008, 08:54 AM
Thanks John.

Like I said, I was pretty sure Paul wasn't a MIHOP or LIHOP, but he was questioning points of the official explanation. That makes him a Truther in my eyes, but YMMV.

So anyone that thinks the 9-11 commission was not objective is a truther? You're saying that questioning something is akin to being a wacko nut job?
WTF? :confused:

Goldwater
08-21-2008, 09:08 AM
So anyone that thinks the 9-11 commission was not objective is a truther? You're saying that questioning something is akin to being a wacko nut job?
WTF? :confused:

I think he was annoyed that no one got fired after the attacks happened, the government just got bigger, you know - a conservative's response.

Molon Labe
08-21-2008, 09:33 AM
I think he was annoyed that no one got fired after the attacks happened, the government just got bigger, you know - a conservative's response.

Absolutely....the creation of DOHS comes to mind. I've said this before.....We had a DOHS before 9/11 it's called DOD.