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PoliCon
08-16-2010, 06:06 PM
Published August 16, 2010

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A federal judge has ruled Missouri's ban restricting protests at funerals to be unconstitutional.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/16/federal-judge-rules-missouris-funeral-protest-ban-unconstitutional/

Odysseus
08-16-2010, 11:05 PM
Published August 16, 2010

| Associated Press

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A federal judge has ruled Missouri's ban restricting protests at funerals to be unconstitutional.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/16/federal-judge-rules-missouris-funeral-protest-ban-unconstitutional/

I hate to say it, but the judge had no choice but to rule this way. His hands were tied by the prior rulings of the federal courts.

However, the absence of a state or federal ban on protests doesn't mean that the protesters haven't violated the rights of the families conducting the funerals. That disruption is clearly an invasion of privacy and a deliberate infliction of emotional distress. These are torts, and I'd be very surprised if the Supreme Court didn't find for the plaintiffs.

NJCardFan
08-16-2010, 11:39 PM
I think what would be a good idea would be to rent the land right across the street from the Westboro Baptist Church and put on La Cage.

Rockntractor
08-16-2010, 11:51 PM
Gunny sacks and baseball bats.

PoliCon
08-17-2010, 12:00 AM
I think what would be a good idea would be to rent the land right across the street from the Westboro Baptist Church and put on La Cage.

Or Cabaret :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umhuM3M_mfI

Odysseus
08-17-2010, 11:04 AM
I think what would be a good idea would be to rent the land right across the street from the Westboro Baptist Church and put on La Cage.
Funny how there are no gay groups protesting at Westboro. You'd think that putting on a show would be right up their alley. I guess the most prominent gay Soldier in the news is too busy leaking secrets to get incensed over this.

Nubs
08-17-2010, 11:11 AM
These goofballs protested at Ford's funeral. They were given a roped off area 3 blocks away, police gaurd, and a public works dump truck parked directly infront of them between their area and the church. They spent 3 hours screaming at the side of a dump truck.

They also protested at a funeral for a local SF soldier. At each area where they would set yp, the homeowners would turn on their lawn sprinklers until the Westboro bunch were a half mile down the road.

FlaGator
08-17-2010, 11:16 AM
I read a while back about a guy who, when Westbro showed up in his home town, decided to set up a table across the street from the Westbro protesters and take donations for various groups that Westbro would oppose. He then sent the Phelps a thank you note showing all the money that they helped raise and to what organizations it was donated to in the name of The Westbro Baptist Church.

Pure genius.

Satanicus
08-17-2010, 11:18 AM
Got em here in Key West , a very committed guy who stands on duval with "god hates fags" "god sent the oil" "god hates america"

Saw him get beat up once , the guy went to jail for the assult and got an applause from the tourist crowd.

FlaGator
08-17-2010, 11:22 AM
Got em here in Key West , a very committed guy who stands on duval with "god hates fags" "god sent the oil" "god hates america"

Saw him get beat up once , the guy went to jail for the assult and got an applause from the tourist crowd.

That's understandable. You live at ground zero of homosexual heaven.

obx
08-17-2010, 11:36 AM
Did you know NPRand AP are supporting the Westboro Church in court?
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noonwitch
08-17-2010, 03:54 PM
Funny how there are no gay groups protesting at Westboro. You'd think that putting on a show would be right up their alley. I guess the most prominent gay Soldier in the news is too busy leaking secrets to get incensed over this.


They counter-protest some of the Westboro gangs' protests. HBO made a movie about "The Laramie Project", in which gay activists held up huge sheets outside of Matthew Shepard's funeral, so his parents, family and friends couldn't see their hateful signs. When they came to Ferndale, MI, which is sort of the gay headquarters of the state, the gay groups along with youth groups from the local UMC and Catholic churches didn't head on counter-protest, but spent the next day visably mopping/cleaning the streets where the Westboro people were the day before.

The military funeral protests are a little harder to predict, for activists. Nobody knows for sure which one the loons are going to show up at. Also, gay people are not allowed to serve openly in the military, so gays might not be so big on counterprotesting at military funerals.

Odysseus
08-17-2010, 04:56 PM
Got em here in Key West , a very committed guy who stands on duval with "god hates fags" "god sent the oil" "god hates america"

Saw him get beat up once , the guy went to jail for the assult and got an applause from the tourist crowd.


The military funeral protests are a little harder to predict, for activists. Nobody knows for sure which one the loons are going to show up at. Also, gay people are not allowed to serve openly in the military, so gays might not be so big on counterprotesting at military funerals.

My point is, gays who claim to support the troops and demand repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, aren't interested in standing by the fallen troops. It's all about them, you see...

Zathras
08-17-2010, 08:04 PM
Best counter-protest I've seen versus these wastes of skin was at this years Comic-Con in San Diego.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7IkPR3NmFc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qRE4BJKPmg

CueSi
08-17-2010, 08:32 PM
That's understandable. You live at ground zero of homosexual heaven.

Actually ground zero is north of KW... It's Wilton Manors.

~QC

Odysseus
08-17-2010, 09:24 PM
Best counter-protest I've seen versus these wastes of skin was at this years Comic-Con in San Diego.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7IkPR3NmFc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qRE4BJKPmg

The comic fans had the moral high ground. The Westboro geeks hate deviant sex, and the comics fans are mostly virgins. :D

BTW, my take on the similarities between comic fans and jihadis was published on my old blog back when I was in Iraq. See below:


I observed a rather gross generalization of the demographics of suicide bombers. They tend to be single males, young adults, who live with their families and lack sexual experience. Throw in the profuse facial hair and the fanatic devotion to a single idea and you have a group that's remarkably similar to Star Trek and Comic Book fans.

In fact, I suspect that one of the reasons that there are so few female suicide bombers is that they are promised 72 male virgins in paradise. You can imagine the shock on a female suicide bomber's face when she wakes up and discovers that she has to spend the afterlife at the San Diego Comic Con. Anyone who's been to a comic book convention knows that the ratio of one female to 72 male virgins is about right. Needless to say, it's not every woman's idea of paradise.

Still, it does make you think. Given the similarities in the demographics, is it possible that we are dealing with Islamic fanboys? Could a Star Trek con at the Baghdad Hilton defuse some of the tensions in the region? Imagine the contribution to the stability of the region that could be made if we could get William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy onstage.

And, given that the hotel would be in the Green Zone, with its own bar, we wouldn't have to work to get the press to attend. The potential distraction and re-channeling of the energies of insurgents would be a tremendous boon to Iraqi democracy, and all it would take is a couple of photo ops with cast members, the opening of a few comic book shops and an airdrop of collectible action figures.

Imagine the progress that will be made when Jihadi fanboys begin quoting Buffy dialogue instead of the Qur'an. The day that the Green Lantern oath is translated into Arabic is the day that the insurgency begins to collapse under its own weight (and the weight of middle-aged male virgins who've been scarfing down happy meals for the collectible Star Wars figures).

Of course, feeding the different types of fantasy fandom might not diffuse tensions, but increase them by exacerbating the schisms between the different insurgent factions, but even this could work to our advantage, as Ba'athists who favor the Next Generation series would be pitted against Sunni fundamentalists who would fight to the death for the original series, although the risk of them teaming up to destroy a burgeoning Iraqi women's movement could lead to the unfortunate viewing of Voyager episodes, but no one said that war is anything but a terrible business.

It would be a tough fight, but the opportunity to pit local insurgents against foreign fighters should not be discounted, or to put it another way, "1,000 Quatloos on the newcomers."