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PoliCon
08-19-2010, 01:54 PM
* August 19th, 2010 10:55 am

Wednesday, the 10th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that highway memorial crosses for state troopers are unconstitutional; the crosses were erected along Utah public roads to honor those troopers who died in the area. The three-judge panel ruled that 14 large crosses could be ruled as the "government's endorsement of Christianity."

"We hold that these memorials have the impermissible effect of conveying to the reasonable observer the message that the state prefers or otherwise endorses a certain religion," concluded the judges in a Denver, Colorado-based court.

In 1998, the Utah Highway Patrol Association started placing the crosses and the fallen trooper's name, rank, photo, badge number, and biological information about the officer were placed on the crosses. The crosses also include the state insignia, and the judges ruled that raises constitutional concerns.

The Utah Highway Patrol Association said their message was not religious, but to serve as "a lasting reminder to UHPA members and Utah highway patrol troopers that a fellow trooper gave his life in service to this state" and to "encourage safe conduct on the highways."

The state of Utah has the option to appeal to the US Supreme Court.

http://www.examiner.com/headlines-in-salt-lake-city/judges-rule-that-utah-memorial-crosses-for-state-troopers-are-unconstitutional-2

NJCardFan
08-19-2010, 02:12 PM
Once again, Christian religious freedom is under attack. I wonder if Pelosi is going to investigate this. :rolleyes:

PoliCon
08-19-2010, 02:14 PM
Once again, Christian religious freedom is under attack. I wonder if Pelosi is going to investigate this. :rolleyes:

I like how the left ALWAYS ignores the free exercise clause.

FlaGator
08-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Just once I would love to see a state tell a federal judge that they plan to completely ignore a decision they don't agree with.

PoliCon
08-19-2010, 03:45 PM
Just once I would love to see a state tell a federal judge that they plan to completely ignore a decision they don't agree with.

I've no interest in that per se- but I would like to see a state tell the feds that they will ignore an unconstitutional ruling made by some asshole activist judge.

patriot45
08-19-2010, 03:49 PM
I've no interest in that persay - but I would like to see a state tell the feds that they will ignore an unconstitutional ruling made by some asshole activist judge.

Its a shitty ruling for sure.

But poli poop, the phrase is per se, not per say. Mrs. teacher who like to tell me how to spell baloney!:D

noonwitch
08-19-2010, 04:43 PM
There are two highway memorials to Michigan state troopers who were shot and killed on 1-96 in Detroit. They used a huge plastic version of the MSP symbol, laid flat on the grass on the side of the freeway.

It's more tasteful than it sounds, and probably more appropriate in Michigan than a cross, given our demographics.

PoliCon
08-19-2010, 05:16 PM
Its a shitty ruling for sure.

But poli poop, the phrase is per se, not per say. Mrs. teacher who like to tell me how to spell baloney!:D

LIKES. You could at least make sure your tenses match when correcting someones spelling :p

patriot45
08-19-2010, 05:21 PM
LIKES. You could at least make sure your tenses match when correcting someones spelling :p

I'm not tense, I'm chillin! :D

By the way, shouldn't it be, tense's. In your sentence the tense belongs to me!

NJCardFan
08-19-2010, 05:41 PM
This is setting a bad precedent. How soon before some loon protests all the crosses and Stars of David that are all over Arlington National Cemetery.

PoliCon
08-19-2010, 05:43 PM
I'm not tense, I'm chillin! :D

By the way, shouldn't it be, tense's. In your sentence the tense belongs to me!

's is possessive. s is plural. I'm right and your wrong. :p

PoliCon
08-19-2010, 05:44 PM
This is setting a bad precedent. How soon before some loon protests all the crosses and Stars of David that are all over Arlington National Cemetery.

I'm sure they already have. Wasn't there some hubbub about wiccan symbols in Arlington?