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megimoo
08-13-2008, 06:44 PM
With less than two weeks to go before the start of the presidential nominating conventions, Barack Obama's lead over John McCain has disappeared.

Pew's latest survey finds 46% of registered voters saying they favor or lean to the putative Democratic candidate, while 43% back his likely Republican rival.

In late June, Obama held a comfortable 48%-to-40% margin over McCain, which narrowed in mid-July to 47% to 42%.

http://people-press.org/report/443/presidential-race-draws-even

Elspeth
08-13-2008, 07:01 PM
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SaintLouieWoman
08-15-2008, 12:43 PM
Last night at the McCain gathering in STL, it was announced that McCain is leading my 6 points in Missouri.

And I saw a lot of the usual GOP conservatives attending. I was afraid they'd abandon him, as many of those active in politics in this area were supporting Romney.

Lager
08-15-2008, 03:04 PM
I wonder if Russia's actions in Georgia might have caused the focus of this presidential campaign to shift a bit.

M21
08-15-2008, 07:23 PM
Last night at the McCain gathering in STL, it was announced that McCain is leading my 6 points in Missouri.

And I saw a lot of the usual GOP conservatives attending. I was afraid they'd abandon him, as many of those active in politics in this area were supporting Romney.

It is what it is. I'm a realist.

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Elspeth
08-15-2008, 07:25 PM
I wonder if Russia's actions in Georgia might have caused the focus of this presidential campaign to shift a bit.

I was thinking that too. Obama's numbers have gone down in the past week. Maybe some folks are thinking about the Cold War again.

gator
08-15-2008, 07:28 PM
I won't vote for the liberal sonofabitch.

"Not being Obama", which is the ONLY thing he has going for him, is hardly qualifications for being President of the United States and Commander in Chief.

Sonnabend
08-15-2008, 07:46 PM
So you wont vote McCain or Obama.

Will you vote at all?

gator
08-15-2008, 08:40 PM
So you wont vote McCain or Obama.

Will you vote at all?

You need to worry more about your own friggin socialist country and less about mine.

I am not going to explain my voting intentions to any goddam foreigner.

lacarnut
08-15-2008, 08:50 PM
I won't vote for the liberal sonofabitch.

"Not being Obama", which is the ONLY thing he has going for him, is hardly qualifications for being President of the United States and Commander in Chief.

Like many of us who are not too happy about McCain being the Repub. nominee, you will vote for the sonofabitch because to not do so would enable Obama to win which might put your son in harms way in Iraq.

Gingersnap
08-15-2008, 08:52 PM
I am not going to explain my voting intentions to any goddam foreigner.

Well, explain them to me then. You know I'm not a foreigner.

I don't like McCain at all. He's weak on border security and he wants to give amnesty to about a zillion illegal aliens. He's voted on the wrong side of a lot of issues.

Obama, on the other hand, wants to take all my money to redistribute in a Global Poverty tax scheme, he's even weaker on security, and he wants to dismantle the military as much as he can.

So, what is your position?

gator
08-15-2008, 09:35 PM
Well, explain them to me then. You know I'm not a foreigner.

I don't like McCain at all. He's weak on border security and he wants to give amnesty to about a zillion illegal aliens. He's voted on the wrong side of a lot of issues.

Obama, on the other hand, wants to take all my money to redistribute in a Global Poverty tax scheme, he's even weaker on security, and he wants to dismantle the military as much as he can.

So, what is your position?

I have given up on the elctorial process in America. It will not provide us with anthing except different degrees of Liberalism. I know of nobody running for public office that really understands the Constitution and is willing to stand up for it. They all will compromise at the end of the day.

I am getting sick of compromising the Constitution and the founding principals of this country.

We need a revolution to restore the Republic and the Constitution.

Since I am not strong enough or smart enough to lead the revolution I will just sit around on my ass and complain about it.

Sonnabend
08-15-2008, 09:47 PM
You need to worry more about your own friggin socialist country and less about mine.

Australia is not socialist. Really, Alvin...try and keep up...


I have given up on the elctorial process in America. It will not provide us with anthing except different degrees of Liberalism.

Then I expect that we will hear not one more word out of you for the next four years.If you sit on your hands and dont vote, then you have stated that you dont care, and as such turned down your opportunity to make a difference.

This "goddamn foreigner" and his mates have an average of a 97 percent turnout for all elections, which is way more than the US ever does, and I often wonder what the result would be if you got off YOUR "goddamned asses" and voted and did more for the electoral process.

One vote times several thousand, or several hundred thousand, is one way to turn an election. You dont want Obama? Then vote against him.

I say that if you choose not to vote, not to execute that civic duty you keep bleating on about, then you're the one who will live in a "socialist country".

We get on average 96 to 98 percent turnout and votes here....why is it that you don't?

I dont give a rats who you vote for..battles are won and lost by those who turn up.And for the last time, MEMBER, the rules of this board state that I am free to give my opinion any time I choose.

Deal with it.

Gingersnap
08-15-2008, 09:51 PM
Since I am not strong enough or smart enough to lead the revolution I will just sit around on my ass and complain about it.

LOL! We have finally found common ground! Your post indicates significant moral clarity. :D

gator
08-15-2008, 09:58 PM
LOL! We have finally found common ground! Your post indicates significant moral clarity. :D


I call them like I see them. I am not going to pretend that I am something that I am not.

I prefer to live comfortably and chose not to start a revolution. At my age it is easier to complain than to fight.

Most Americans are just like me and are unwilling to do anything and that is the reason we have two shitasses like McCain and Obama running for President.

We will deserve what we get for being chickenshits.

Sadie5
08-15-2008, 11:30 PM
Obama went on his European jaunt to try to look presidential, but when the war broke out McCain sent two military pros to see what was going on. He was presidential. Obama sat on his hands giving pretty speeches.

Goldwater
08-16-2008, 09:04 PM
How the hell do these idiots throw away leads in times like these.

Full-Auto
08-17-2008, 09:44 AM
I wonder if Russia's actions in Georgia might have caused the focus of this presidential campaign to shift a bit.

You bet it does.

Full-Auto
08-17-2008, 09:48 AM
I prefer to live comfortably and chose not to start a revolution. At my age it is easier to complain than to fight.

Most Americans are just like me and are unwilling to do anything and that is the reason we have two shitasses like McCain and Obama running for President.

We will deserve what we get for being chickenshits.
Who would you suggest we fight against if we were to fight?

Would you round up your buddies and head down to the local DNC office and kill them? Would you assault everyone with an Obama for President yard sign or bumper sticker? Would you kill them on sight or just round them up and put them in camps?

Would you start shooting at our own military, the same one your son is serving in?

Who would you fight?

Full-Auto
08-17-2008, 09:53 AM
Obama went on his European jaunt to try to look presidential, but when the war broke out McCain sent two military pros to see what was going on. He was presidential. Obama sat on his hands giving pretty speeches.

But unfortunately the average American voter is dumb as a box of rocks. They are more swayed by eloquent speeches (Bill Clinton) than they are action. As long as you tell the morons you're going to do great things they'll sit around and cheer you. The minute you actually try to do something, they'll condemn your actions and pick your every move apart.

In our political environment you're best bet is to work on your speech delivery skills and forget about actually leading the country... that is, if you want to be a popular President.

SarasotaRepub
08-17-2008, 10:13 AM
We need a revolution to restore the Republic and the Constitution.

Since I am not strong enough or smart enough to lead the revolution I will just sit around on my ass and complain about it.

:eek: What's your DU name again?? :D:D

LibraryLady
08-17-2008, 10:17 AM
:eek: What's your DU name again?? :D:D


He's Philosoraptor

marinejcksn
08-17-2008, 10:53 AM
Like many of us who are not too happy about McCain being the Repub. nominee, you will vote for the sonofabitch because to not do so would enable Obama to win which might put your son in harms way in Iraq.

Here's where I'm in a real bind on what to do because one of these men will be my new Commander in Chief in November, I'm not coming home from Iraq until next year. I highly respect McCain: the Man. What he endured in Vietnam is something he can never fully be paid back for and I'd proudly salute the man if I met him. His policies though...he scares me quite frankly. My gut tells me he'll do nothing about the border, possibly allow Cap & Trade to pass his desk un-vetoed, as well as push more for the sprawling american "empire" overseas that's already way too bloated. We've got troops in over 120 countries for crying out loud.

On the other hand, I'll spend time in the Brig before I'll render a hand salute to Barry. He doesn't have, hasn't earned and in my opinion doesn't rate my respect. He cares nothing for us in the military, he made that perfectly clear when he pulled his headline grabbing stunt by coming here to Iraq. Wouldn't meet with us, wont talk to us, he's Slick Willie 2.0.

So I'm in a real pickle here.:confused:

Eyelids
08-17-2008, 10:59 AM
On the other hand, I'll spend time in the Brig before I'll render a hand salute to Barry.

Hahahaha.

If Barack Obama introduced himself to any of you guys you'd act respectfully and with tact. You guys are so pumped full of your own bullshit here it's sick. You wont vote for him because he didn't meet you? You know I've never met the guy either (and he lives in Chicago!) but somehow I can find it in my heart to vote for him. You hate him because he's a democrat, and you'll demonize him as such with zero regard to your actual opinions.

Congrats on destroying America...

marinejcksn
08-17-2008, 11:09 AM
Hahahaha.

If Barack Obama introduced himself to any of you guys you'd act respectfully and with tact. You guys are so pumped full of your own bullshit here it's sick. You wont vote for him because he didn't meet you? You know I've never met the guy either (and he lives in Chicago!) but somehow I can find it in my heart to vote for him. You hate him because he's a democrat, and you'll demonize him as such with zero regard to your actual opinions.

Congrats on destroying America...

Lids, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you here. I've served my country 6 years, been to Iraq twice while you've partied in college, so please don't hesitate to thank a serviceman for providing you the security and freedom to rip bong hits at Lambda Lambda Lambda.

I wont vote for the man because he holds no credentials, has no tact, lacks vision and basically allows himself to be whored out to the masses. Barry's the Gumby of politics; he's bendable into whatever shape or form you desire. I get why he's popular...I understand the allure and yes he's an incredible speach-giver. Forgive me for thinking one must have better qualities then good public speaking skills to be the leader of this country.

P.S. You were right on me not liking the Democratic Party. News flash however, I pretty much hate the GOP these days as well. The Left lost their minds and the Right has no spine, for the most part. Feel better now?:rolleyes:

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 11:28 AM
If Barack Obama introduced himself to any of you guys you'd act respectfully and with tact. You guys are so pumped full of your own bullshit here it's sick.

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Full-Auto
08-17-2008, 12:22 PM
Hahahaha.

If Barack Obama introduced himself to any of you guys you'd act respectfully and with tact. You guys are so pumped full of your own bullshit here it's sick. You wont vote for him because he didn't meet you? You know I've never met the guy either (and he lives in Chicago!) but somehow I can find it in my heart to vote for him. You hate him because he's a democrat, and you'll demonize him as such with zero regard to your actual opinions.

Congrats on destroying America...

Once again you show you lack any understanding about... well, anything.

I can assure you I wouldn't walk across the street to meet Obama. If I was cornered and he put his hand out, I would refuse to shake it. I wouldn't be rude, I wouldn't say anything snotty, I would just smile and walk away.

I won't give the time of day to a man who hates me for being White. If you're stupid enough to vote for a man who aligns himself with admitted and unrepentant terrorists, belonged to an anti-American / anti-White church for 20 years, was married by a man who thinks White people are the devil, and is a communist, be my guest. I know there are people in the world as dumb and uncaring about our country as you are. It's a fact of life people like you exist. But, you have a right to exist and be dumb as a box of rocks. Freedom is a great thing.

Enjoy your blissful stupidity while lounging in the freedom men like marinejcksn provide for you. Don't lecture us about acting respectfully and with tact though. You're talking down to a man who is serving our nation in a war zone at this very moment. Why don't you shut your indignant cock holster and show the man some semblance of respect?

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 12:36 PM
Hahahaha.

If Barack Obama introduced himself to any of you guys you'd act respectfully and with tact. You guys are so pumped full of your own bullshit here it's sick. You wont vote for him because he didn't meet you? You know I've never met the guy either (and he lives in Chicago!) but somehow I can find it in my heart to vote for him. You hate him because he's a democrat, and you'll demonize him as such with zero regard to your actual opinions.

Congrats on destroying America...

Eyelids gets a D- for trying to be funny and an F- for substance.

Odysseus
08-17-2008, 01:16 PM
I was thinking that too. Obama's numbers have gone down in the past week. Maybe some folks are thinking about the Cold War again.
I'd say so. I always thought that if the Cold War hadn't ended in '89, Clinton would never have been elected in '92. When people are confronted with the dangers of the world, they don't vote for arrogant rookies.

I have given up on the elctorial process in America. It will not provide us with anthing except different degrees of Liberalism. I know of nobody running for public office that really understands the Constitution and is willing to stand up for it. They all will compromise at the end of the day.
I am getting sick of compromising the Constitution and the founding principals of this country.
We need a revolution to restore the Republic and the Constitution.
Since I am not strong enough or smart enough to lead the revolution I will just sit around on my ass and complain about it.
In other words, "real Americans" now favor sedition. Man, they really do need to take your guns away before you hurt yourself.

...So I'm in a real pickle here.:confused:
While I disagree with McCain on a lot of fundamental issues, the fact remains that I admire his character tremendously. I don't think that he'll do what I think is the right thing on any number of issues, but I do know that he'll do what he thinks is the right thing, while Obama will always do the expedient thing, no matter how much damage it does to the country. That makes this a no-brainer. I vote for the man that I can follow into combat, even if I don't agree with him on immigration, campaign finance and environonsense.
I I signed up under Reagan, but I also served during the Clinton administration, when the most pressing issues, in the eyes of the Commander-in-Chief, were whether or not gays could openly serve and whether the Army should wear black berets, while the threat of a radical change in geopolitical realities went completely unnoticed. It was hard, especially when he used us to try to distract attention from his scandals (attacking Saddam on the day of Monica Lewinsky's testimony was a despicable wagging of the dog), but ultimately, our oath isn't to the elected officials, but to the Constitution that defines their powers and ours. Some politicians make that duty harder than others, but duty isn't easy.

Hahahaha.
If Barack Obama introduced himself to any of you guys you'd act respectfully and with tact. You guys are so pumped full of your own bullshit here it's sick. You wont vote for him because he didn't meet you? You know I've never met the guy either (and he lives in Chicago!) but somehow I can find it in my heart to vote for him. You hate him because he's a democrat, and you'll demonize him as such with zero regard to your actual opinions.
Congrats on destroying America...
First of all, I don't hate Obama. I think that he's an empty suit that's puffed up on his own press, but who otherwise brings nothing to the office that he's seeking. I also think that his positions are wrong on just about every issue, and that he lacks the experience and knowledge to be effective in an executive position. If I met him, I would be tactful and respectful, because I am an adult, but I wouldn't tell him that I'd support him or that I agree with him, and if he's elected, I will do my best to support and defend the Constitution, as per my oath. That doesn't change, no matter who is in the White House. OTOH, how would you react to meeting President Bush or Sen. McCain?

Once again you show you lack any understanding about... well, anything.
...Enjoy our blissful stupidity while lounging in the freedom men like marinejcksn provide for you. Don't lecture us about acting respectfully and with tact though. You're talking down to a man who is serving our nation in a war zone at this very moment. Why don't you shut your indignant cock holster and show the man some semblance of respect?
Eyelids doesn't respect anything except power, like most liberals.


Who would you suggest we fight against if we were to fight?
...Would you start shooting at our own military, the same one your son is serving in?
Who would you fight?
Israel. Haven't you been reading his posts? It's all about the Jooooooooooooooooooos...

Eyelids
08-17-2008, 01:18 PM
How the hell do these idiots throw away leads in times like these.

Well Obama hasn't really thrown away leads, he's just stopped widening the gap.

Eyelids
08-17-2008, 01:24 PM
Lids, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you here. I've served my country 6 years, been to Iraq twice while you've partied in college, so please don't hesitate to thank a serviceman for providing you the security and freedom to rip bong hits at Lambda Lambda Lambda.
Absolutely irrelevant... but thanks for the bong hits.


I wont vote for the man because he holds no credentials, has no tact, lacks vision and basically allows himself to be whored out to the masses. Barry's the Gumby of politics; he's bendable into whatever shape or form you desire. I get why he's popular...I understand the allure and yes he's an incredible speach-giver. Forgive me for thinking one must have better qualities then good public speaking skills to be the leader of this country.
And how is that unlike every President since Carter? (reference: Jimmy was just bad at everything and had no redeeming qualities) Barack's isn't perfect, hell he probably wont be a great president but when you judge him against every since 1963 only 2 guys come close: Clinton and Bush I.

IanMartins
08-17-2008, 04:31 PM
Like that pathetic guy you once knew who agreed with everything you said just to be your friend, Obama is more concerned with what other people think than with the facts of reality. As do Bill Clinton and many politicians, Obama wants to be loved more than anything. Basking in the adoration of mass crowds will be more important to him than reading tedious position papers and actually getting something done. Such a character trait promises mediocrity. The fact that he continously changes his positions in order to appeal to the most voters reflects this, and shows that he's certainly not into politics in order to stand up for any principles.

Given the kind of enemies this country has, I would prefer that the next President be a stone killer. I fear I am doomed to disappointment. I want our next President to be blood thirsty, lean, mean and a hard heart, and capable of the heroic feat of Harry Truman in 1945.

Its a pity Rudy Giuliani didn't win the Republican nomination.

marinejcksn
08-18-2008, 01:36 AM
Absolutely irrelevant... but thanks for the bong hits.


And how is that unlike every President since Carter? (reference: Jimmy was just bad at everything and had no redeeming qualities) Barack's isn't perfect, hell he probably wont be a great president but when you judge him against every since 1963 only 2 guys come close: Clinton and Bush I.


Reagan made mistakes like Iran-Contra but he was undoubtedly the best President of the 20th century, certainly the best since Truman. I get why you like Obama, I honestly understand why people get behind him. I think most people are so fed up with how incompetant our government has become that they're looking for any sign of hope they can find and Barry Obama is great at filling this void. However once you move past his speaches to the meat of the issue on who he really is, I don't see how anyone with common sense could not see that he's not a good person. His connections are so radical, he alligns himself with criminals, liars and rascists but paints the picture that he's the "NEW" breed of politician.

Also, did you actually suggest Clinton was a great president?