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patriot45
08-15-2008, 11:01 AM
by John Hawkins

link (http://townhall.com/Columnists/JohnHawkins/2008/08/15/25_reasons_you_might_be_a_liberal)


With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy, you just might be a liberal if...

* You're sure the Constitution explicitly guarantees the right to abortion and gay marriage, but not the right to own a handgun.

* You think Dan Quayle is the dumbest Vice-President we ever had because he believed a flash card that misspelled "potato," but think Obama is a genius despite the fact he believes we have more than 57 states.

* You'd be more upset about your favorite candidate being endorsed by the NRA than the Communist Party.

* You think the same criminals who use guns in the commission of a crime will just hand them over to comply with the law if guns are made illegal.

* You know that 86% of all income taxes are paid by the top 25% of income earners and you still feel that the rich "aren't paying their fair share of the taxes."

* You put a higher priority on oil pipelines possibly inconveniencing a few caribou than you do on lowering the price of gas for everyone in the country by drilling ANWR.

* You're worried that Osama Bin Laden might not get a fair trial if we capture him, but want George Bush thrown in prison for being too zealous in protecting us from Al-Qaeda.

* You get infuriated when you hear about the CEO of a Fortune 500 company making tens of millions of dollars, but don't see a problem with an actor, basketball player, or trial lawyer making the same amount.

* You're constantly seeing subtle, coded racism in campaign ads, but see nothing racist about blacks being promoted over more qualified white applicants because of Affirmative Action.

* You think it's obscene that oil companies are allowed to make 8.3 cents per gallon in profit with gas prices this high, but would never suggest cutting the 13 cents per gallon they pay on taxes to reduce the price of gas.

* You think George Bush is a chickenhawk because he wanted to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan despite the fact that he only served in the National Guard, but you don't think the same about Barack Obama, who has never served in the military and probably couldn't find either country on a map without help.

* You think protesting outside of abortion clinics is extremism and should be illegal, but carrying around giant puppet heads while wearing a t-shirt that compares Bush to Hitler is just exercising your First Amendment rights.

* You think the case for global warming is proven without a shadow of a doubt, but that we need another century or two worth of evidence to figure out if capitalism and free markets work better than socialism.

* You believe the best way to fix the government screwing something up in the market is with...drumroll, please...more government intervention.

* You think the first thing we should have done when Russia invaded Georgia was to take the matter to the United Nations, where Russia sits on the UN Security Council.

continued (http://townhall.com/Columnists/JohnHawkins/2008/08/15/25_reasons_you_might_be_a_liberal?page=2)

DarkHalo
08-16-2008, 10:20 AM
I have been a fan of John Hawkins of Right Wing News for years. Really scary thing is the libs will casually dismiss every point made above even though they are all true. They wont even consider discussing it. Talk about intellectual laziness.

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 12:39 PM
I'm pretty sure that Barack Obama is smarter than Dan Quayle and I don't base that belief on the fact that Dan Quayle misspelled a common word. What I base that belief on is the following statement...

"Mars is essentially in the same orbit. Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe." - Dan Quayle, August 11, 1989 interview on CNN

DarkHalo
08-16-2008, 01:04 PM
I'm pretty sure that Barack Obama is smarter than Dan Quayle and I don't base that belief on the fact that Dan Quayle misspelled a common word. What I base that belief on is the following statement...

"Mars is essentially in the same orbit. Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe." - Dan Quayle, August 11, 1989 interview on CNN

As opposed to this?

All 57 states and 1 to go... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws)

Sonnabend
08-16-2008, 01:06 PM
I'm pretty sure that Barack Obama is smarter than Dan Quayle and I don't base that belief on the fact that Dan Quayle misspelled a common word. What I base that belief on is the following statement...
(James Danforth Quayle), 1947–, Vice President of the United States (1989–93), b. Indianapolis. He graduated from DePauw Univ. (1969) and served in the Indiana National Guard (1969–75).Military service of Barack Hussein Obama: NIL.


The son of a prominent Indiana publishing family, he graduated from law school (Indiana Univ., 1974) and then became associate publisher and general manager of the Huntington Herald-Press. Accomplishments of Barack Hussein Obama:


Occidental College records – Not released
Columbia College records – Not released
Columbia Thesis paper – “not available”
Harvard College records – Not released
Selective Service Registration – Not released - Be kinda fun to see just what it is the ObaMessiah has to hide.
Medical records – Not released
Illinois State Senate records – “not available”
Illinois State Senate schedule – “not available”
Law practice client list – Not released
Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – Not released
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth – Not released
Harvard Law Review articles published – None
University of Chicago scholarly articles - None
In 1976 he was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives as a conservative Republican. In 1980 he was elected to the Senate, defeating three-term incumbent Birch Bayh, and was reelected in 1986.Political victories of Barack Hussein Obama:


In addition to his role as Chairman of Cerberus Global Investments, LLC, Former Vice President Dan Quayle also serves on the board of Aozora Bank, K-2 Inc.

1. Chairman, Cerberus Global Investments, LLC
2. Director, Aozora Bank
3. Director, K-2 Inc.
4. Director, Bell Automotive
5. Director, IAPAccomplishments of Barack Hussein Obama:


"Mars is essentially in the same orbit. Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe." - Dan Quayle, August 11, 1989 interview on CNN1.There is oxygen locked in the soil of Mars (http://www.satnews.com/cgi-bin/story.cgi?number=844303904).
2. There is water on Mars (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/mars_water_000620.html)
3 Mars has an atmosphere


The atmosphere on Mars consists of 95% carbon dioxide, 3% nitrogen, 1.6% argon, and contains traces of oxygen, water, and methane, for a mean molecular weight of 43.34 g/mole. The atmosphere is quite dusty, giving the Martian sky a tawny color when seen from the surface; data from the Mars Exploration Rovers indicates the suspended dust particles are roughly 1.5 micrometres across.[5]

I have seen at least three terraforming projects that intend to use the OXYGEN in the soil and in the ice caps (what is water again,Owl? H20..the "o" being oxygen, you uneducated dipshit) to release said oxygen into the air to create a breathable atmosphere suitable for humans.

So, in fact, you're the idiot for not knowing what the hell you were on about when you opened your yap, and started bloviating about things you have no idea of.

It's a real pain when you are shown to be a complete jackass, isn't it, Owl?

Maybe you should emulate said wise old owl . It would save you from a bad case of feet in mouth disease.

Oh almost forgot:

Vice Presidencies of Barack Hussein Obama: NIL.

Sonnabend
08-16-2008, 01:09 PM
Note to the foul fowl.

Open your yap one inch about President Bush or anyone else's military background, and I will take pleasure in reminding you in every thread that you post that Barack Hussein Obama has NEVER served anywhere in his life.

Owl: no maps, no google, no books

What is the maximum orbit of Neptune and Pluto at aphelion and perihelion?

If you cant answer that, then you're as stupid as you say he is.

JACKASS.

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 02:21 PM
1.There is oxygen locked in the soil of Mars.

Mars contains only traces of oxygen. Dan Quayle suggested that there is enough oxygen on Mars for humans to be able to breath there. That is pretty darn funny.


2. There is water on Mars.

Mars has water but Dan Quayle's suggestion that there are canals on Mars is absurd and based on late 19th and early 20th Century science. He should have known better.


3 Mars has an atmosphere.

No one has suggested that Mars doesn't have an atmosphere.

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 02:22 PM
What is the maximum orbit of Neptune and Pluto at aphelion and perihelion?[/B]



I have no idea what aphelion and perihelion are but I have known ever since I was in grade school that Mars does not have canals and that humans can't breathe there. The Night Owl > Dan Quayle.

lacarnut
08-16-2008, 02:55 PM
I have no idea what aphelion and perihelion are but I have known ever since I was in grade school that Mars does not have canals and that humans can't breath there. The Night Owl > Dan Quayle.

Since you can not prove that the Magic Negro is smarter than D.Q., you need to STFU. Anyone that basis one statement in determining a person's intelligence is an idiot themselves.

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 04:16 PM
Since you can not prove that the Magic Negro is smarter than D.Q., you need to STFU.

You're probably right. Despite the fact that Barack Obama has far better academic credentials than Dan Quayle, I can't "prove" that Obama is smarter than Quayle. I do, however, suspect that most people, including people here, would not bet anything of value on the claim that Quayle is smarter than Obama.

Cold Warrior
08-16-2008, 04:30 PM
You're probably right. Despite the fact that Barack Obama has far better academic credentials than Dan Quayle, I can't "prove" that Obama is smarter than Quayle. I do, however, suspect that most people, including people here, would not bet anything of value on the claim that Quayle is smarter than Obama.

I'd be careful with that line of argument. After all, Georgie Porgie was legacied into Yale and Harvard and it would be difficult to find a duller knife (although the Dims did in 2004).

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 06:07 PM
I'd be careful with that line of argument. After all, Georgie Porgie was legacied into Yale and Harvard and it would be difficult to find a duller knife (although the Dims did in 2004).

George W. Bush is not stupid. Bush's malfunction is that he is callous, incurious, obstinate, and shallow.

lacarnut
08-16-2008, 06:23 PM
You're probably right. Despite the fact that Barack Obama has far better academic credentials than Dan Quayle, I can't "prove" that Obama is smarter than Quayle. I do, however, suspect that most people, including people here, would not bet anything of value on the claim that Quayle is smarter than Obama.

According to liberals, Reagan was not too smart but I think he has been the best Prez. since Truman.

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 06:30 PM
I looked up those two astronomy terms Sonnabend challenged me to define without researching... but I admit that I had never heard them before today. I could have looked them up and then pretended that I knew them all along but I try to stay true to the spirit of any challenge thrown at me. That is just the kind of guy I am. I am a sport. So, for anyone who is interested...

Aphelion is the point at which a planet or other celestial body is nearest to the sun it is orbiting.

Perihelion is the point at which a planet or celestial body is farthest from the sun it is orbiting.

See? I learned something new today.

Constitutionally Speaking
08-16-2008, 06:36 PM
I'm pretty sure that Barack Obama is smarter than Dan Quayle and I don't base that belief on the fact that Dan Quayle misspelled a common word. What I base that belief on is the following statement...

"Mars is essentially in the same orbit. Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe." - Dan Quayle, August 11, 1989 interview on CNN

What the hell does this have to do with the OP?????

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 06:38 PM
What the hell does this have to do with the OP?????

The second point on the John Hawkins list of 25 Reasons You Might Be a Liberal...

* You think Dan Quayle is the dumbest Vice-President we ever had because he believed a flash card that misspelled "potato," but think Obama is a genius despite the fact he believes we have more than 57 states.

Sonnabend
08-16-2008, 07:36 PM
Mars contains only traces of oxygen. Dan Quayle suggested that there is enough oxygen on Mars for humans to be able to breath there. That is pretty darn funny.

Mars SOIL contains traces, Mars ICE and other water contains LOTS....don't try and get around the fact you blew it.


Mars has water but Dan Quayle's suggestion that there are canals on Mars is absurd and based on late 19th and early 20th Century science. He should have known better.

The only thing absurd here is you.


I have no idea what aphelion and perihelion are

Ah, but you're smarter than Dan Quayle is. Or at least you say you are.But you cant answer that question, can you?

So the yardstick you are using for intelligence just got rammed up your ass.


but I have known ever since I was in grade school that Mars does not have canals and that humans can't breathe there.

Look up the word TERRAF0RMING, dipshit.And that's not what he said, and now you're lying.


You're probably right. Despite the fact that Barack Obama has far better academic credentials than Dan Quayle, I can't "prove" that Obama is smarter than Quayle.

What academic credentials would those be?

Occidental College records – Not released
Columbia College records – Not released
Columbia Thesis paper – “not available”
Harvard College records – Not released
Selective Service Registration – Not released - Be kinda fun to see just what it is the ObaMessiah has to hide.
Medical records – Not released
Illinois State Senate records – “not available”
Illinois State Senate schedule – “not available”
Law practice client list – Not released
Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – Not released
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth – Not released
Harvard Law Review articles published – None
University of Chicago scholarly articles - None


I do, however, suspect that most people, including people here, would not bet anything of value on the claim that Quayle is smarter than Obama.

I'd bet a lot on it, Vice President, lawyer, director of at least four firms...what we don't seem to have is Barry Soetoro's academic records.(Oh excuse me, I meant Barack HUSSEIN Obama)

LibraryLady
08-16-2008, 07:45 PM
In 1992 the Vice President was visiting the Luis Munoz Rivera School in Trenton New Jersey. The students were having a spelling bee and Quayle was asked to participate. He was handed a stack of flash cards with the spelling words. He looked at the card with “POTATOE”, paused and showed it to his staff and the other adults and they nodded that there was no problem. The student then spelled “potato” on the chalkboard. Quayle then coaxed the child to add the extra “e”. The puzzled child followed the Vice Presidents advice. As Quayle was preparing to leave one of the reporters shouted out, “How do you spell potato?” The extra “e” on potato was repeated on every local and national news cast around the nation. Comedians, both professional and amateur, began bombarding America with Quayle spelling jokes. But before we criticize Mr. Quayle too harshly lets consider these facts: He did stop and ask if it was correct, indicating that he questioned the card. If the staff and educators said it was correct weren’t they just as guilty as Quayle? Why didn’t any of them step forward and accept responsibility for not knowing the card was wrong?

The media was after Quayle

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 08:08 PM
Look up the word TERRAF0RMING, dipshit.And that's not what he said, and now you're lying.

I know what terraforming is and it is irrelevant to my criticism of Dan Quayle. Quayle didn't say anything about terraforming. What Quayle said is that humans can breathe on Mars.

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 08:14 PM
In 1992 the Vice President was visiting the Luis Munoz Rivera School in Trenton New Jersey. The students were having a spelling bee and Quayle was asked to participate. He was handed a stack of flash cards with the spelling words. He looked at the card with “POTATOE”, paused and showed it to his staff and the other adults and they nodded that there was no problem.

The fact that Dan Quayle wasn't the only person at Luis Munoz Rivera School who didn't know how to spell the word potato doesn't change the fact that Dan Quayle didn't know how to spell the word potato.

Constitutionally Speaking
08-16-2008, 08:41 PM
The second point on the John Hawkins list of 25 Reasons You Might Be a Liberal...

* You think Dan Quayle is the dumbest Vice-President we ever had because he believed a flash card that misspelled "potato," but think Obama is a genius despite the fact he believes we have more than 57 states.


Thanks, I missed that one.:o

Sonnabend
08-16-2008, 09:58 PM
The fact that Dan Quayle wasn't the only person at Luis Munoz Rivera School who didn't know how to spell the word potato doesn't change the fact that Dan Quayle didn't know how to spell the word potato.No,. little liberal liar, the fact is that teachers, staff and an administrator didn't catch the error.

Oh speaking of which, Owl, what are your degrees in?

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 10:09 PM
No,. little liberal liar, the fact is that teachers, staff and an administrator didn't catch the error.

You left someone out. The fact is that teachers, staff, an administrator, and Dan Quayle didn't catch the error.

LibraryLady
08-16-2008, 10:12 PM
Quayle did catch the error, he just deferred to the teacher who was USING those cards to quiz the class.

Sonnabend
08-16-2008, 10:26 PM
Oh speaking of which, Owl, what are your degrees in?

Eyelids
08-16-2008, 10:42 PM
I AM SONNABEND. IF AT FIRST YOU DONT SUCCEED, JUST YELL LOUDER.


groooooan

LibraryLady
08-16-2008, 10:43 PM
eyeballs, it's only because you guys will never answer a question.....

Eyelids
08-16-2008, 10:45 PM
eyeballs, it's only because you guys will never answer a question.....

WHAT? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER MY OBNOXIOUS SMALL-MAN'S SYNDROME!

Shut up LL.

LibraryLady
08-16-2008, 10:52 PM
I see that eyeballs has the "itty bitty weenie" syndrome.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/dtharman/internet-fantasy.gif

The Night Owl
08-16-2008, 11:47 PM
Oh speaking of which, Owl, what are your degrees in?

I have only one degree, an undergrad degree, but I'd rather not get more specific than that, this being the Internet and all. I don't claim to be smart or accomplished but what I do have going for me is that I'm curious about things.

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 12:01 AM
I have only one degree, an undergrad degree

Oh? an UNDERGRAD degree ? So you haven't actually graduated yet.Yet you seem to have this sovereign right to judge yourself smarter than this man


Quayle earned a degree in political science from DePauw University in 1969 and a law degree from the Indiana School of Law in 1974. While attending law school, Quayle gained experience in state government by working for the governor and the attorney general of Indiana. From 1974 to 1976 Quayle was associate publisher of the family owned Huntington (Indiana) Herald-Press newspaper. ..so in fact you have just told another lie. This one.


, but I'd rather not get more specific than that, this being the Internet and all. I don't claim to be smart or accomplished ..yet you seem to have this sense of superiority when it comes to a man who has accomplished far more than you have.

Oh and care to address this comment as well?


. Despite the fact that Barack Obama has far better academic credentials than Dan Quayleand I posted this in response.


Occidental College records – Not released
Columbia College records – Not released
Columbia Thesis paper – “not available”
Harvard College records – Not released
Selective Service Registration – Not released - Be kinda fun to see just what it is the ObaMessiah has to hide.
Medical records – Not released
Illinois State Senate records – “not available”
Illinois State Senate schedule – “not available”
Law practice client list – Not released
Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – Not released
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth – Not released
Harvard Law Review articles published – None
University of Chicago scholarly articles - NoneSo what are Barry Soetero's (sorry, Barack Hussein Obama's) academic qualifications?

What makes him smarter than Dan Quayle?

What makes you smarter than Dan Quayle?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Eyelids
08-17-2008, 12:21 AM
LOL at Sonnabend not knowing what an Undergraduate degree is.

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 12:22 AM
LOL at Eyecysts for not getting the point.

As usual.

LibraryLady
08-17-2008, 12:25 AM
LOL at Sonnabend not knowing what an Undergraduate degree is.


I find this hilarious! You know nothing about Australia and very little about the United States!

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 12:37 AM
What makes him smarter than Dan Quayle?

What makes you smarter than Dan Quayle?


I don't think that I'm smarter than Dan Quayle but I do think that Barack Obama is.


Oh and care to address this comment as well?

Occidental College records – Not released
Columbia College records – Not released
Columbia Thesis paper – “not available”
Harvard College records – Not released
Selective Service Registration – Not released - Be kinda fun to see just what it is the ObaMessiah has to hide.
Medical records – Not released
Illinois State Senate records – “not available”
Illinois State Senate schedule – “not available”
Law practice client list – Not released
Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – Not released
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth – Not released
Harvard Law Review articles published – None
University of Chicago scholarly articles - None



I'm giving Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt in regard to his academic record. I feel certain that Obama will be forthcoming about his past.

By the way, hasn't Obama released his medical records? Perhaps you need to update your list.

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 12:40 AM
I don't think I'm smarter than Dan Quayle but I do think that Barack Obama is.Based on this?


Occidental College records – Not released
Columbia College records – Not released
Columbia Thesis paper – “not available”
Harvard College records – Not released
Selective Service Registration – Not released - Be kinda fun to see just what it is the ObaMessiah has to hide.
Medical records – Not released
Illinois State Senate records – “not available”
Illinois State Senate schedule – “not available”
Law practice client list – Not released
Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – Not released
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth – Not released
Harvard Law Review articles published – None
University of Chicago scholarly articles - NoneI keep asking the question and you keep dodging it.

Okay Ill have to do this again

So what are Barry Soetero's (sorry, Barack Hussein Obama's) academic qualifications?

What makes him smarter than Dan Quayle?

ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION.

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 01:08 AM
Based on this?
I keep asking the question and you keep dodging it.

Okay Ill have to do this again

So what are Barry Soetero's (sorry, Barack Hussein Obama's) academic qualifications?

What makes him smarter than Dan Quayle?

ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION.


I base my comparison of Barack Obama and Dan Quayle on their stated academic credentials and on the fact that Quayle has said some powerfully stupid things. If Obama's academic credentials turn out to be fraudulent, and I see no reason to think they are, then I may change my opinion of the guy.

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 01:10 AM
I base my comparison of Barack Obama and Dan Quayle on their stated academic credentials and on the fact that Quayle has said some powerfully stupid things.
FOR FUCKS SAKE.

For the FOURTH TIME.

WHAT are Soetero/ Obama's qualifications??

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 01:17 AM
FOR FUCKS SAKE.

For the FOURTH TIME.

WHAT are Soetero/ Obama's qualifications??

I'm not going to repeat myself.

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 01:23 AM
I'm not going to repeat myself.


I'm giving Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt in regard to his academic record

Translation: "I dont know what they are, I have no idea how to answer a simple question but he is the ObaMessiah™ and he is the Anointed One."

I see, you are taking him on faith. Aren't you the one telling us that you believe only in facts and what can be proved?

So where are the facts? Where are his qualifications? If you are using them to justify your opinion then WHAT ARE THEY?

When the fuck will you ever give a straight answer to a straight question?

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 02:41 AM
I don't think that I'm smarter than Dan Quayle but I do think that Barack Obama is.



I'm giving Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt in regard to his academic record. I feel certain that Obama will be forthcoming about his past.

By the way, hasn't Obama released his medical records? Perhaps you need to update your list.

Wow, 1 out of 13. Looks like the Magic Negro is going to pull a Clinton and only release a very few records.

I never considered Truman and Reagan exceptionally smart; however, they are two great Presidents in my opinion.

Eyelids
08-17-2008, 03:06 AM
I find this hilarious! You know nothing about Australia and very little about the United States!

Because who the fuck cares about Australia?

OwlMBA
08-17-2008, 03:32 AM
You might be a liberal if.... you are a failure.

AmPat
08-17-2008, 04:03 AM
I know what terraforming is and it is irrelevant to my criticism of Dan Quayle. Quayle didn't say anything about terraforming. What Quayle said is that humans can breathe on Mars.

That is not what you said:
Quote:
Mars contains only traces of oxygen. Dan Quayle suggested that there is enough oxygen on Mars for humans to be able to breath there. That is pretty darn funny. As for canals; canals can and do exist here on earth both with and without water. When again were the statements made? What was our scientific evidence at that time? Was Dan merely parroting the accepted theories of the day? Did Dan re-evaluate his beliefs after further evidence?

You suspect BHO to be smarter than Dan based on statements made almost 20 years ago. Closed minds are a liberal's playground.:cool:

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 09:08 AM
Because who the fuck cares about Australia?

Considering the massive trade and military history of our two nations, I'd say the US does.

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 09:25 AM
Considering the massive trade and military history of our two nations, I'd say the US does.

More importanly, who cares what Eyelids closed says. He knows very little about his own country much less another.

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 11:12 AM
That is not what you said: As for canals; canals can and do exist here on earth both with and without water. When again were the statements made? What was our scientific evidence at that time? Was Dan merely parroting the accepted theories of the day? Did Dan re-evaluate his beliefs after further evidence?

You suspect BHO to be smarter than Dan based on statements made almost 20 years ago. Closed minds are a liberal's playground.:cool:

What do canals on Earth have to do with Dan Quayle's claim that Mars has canals?

The idea that Mars has canals and liquid water was already very outdated when Dan Quayle expressed his belief in it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_canal

19th Century science. For a vice president of the United States to declare in 1989 that Mars has canals is both shocking and sad.

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 11:26 AM
19th Century science. For a vice president of the United States to declare in 1989 that Mars has canals is both shocking and sad.

..and we are neither shocked, nor sad, hell we aren't even surprised, let alone amused, that you are still to answer the question.

What are Barry Soetoro / Barack Hussein Obama's academic qualifications?

Why is it that you are pathologically incapable of answering this simple question? I have posted Dan Quayle's..now where is Obama's? We are still waiting for you to justify your comparison of their academic qualifications.

I will keep asking you.
I wont stop asking you.

Cold Warrior
08-17-2008, 11:28 AM
What do canals on Earth have to do with Dan Quayle's claim that Mars has canals?

The idea that Mars has canals and liquid water was already very outdated when Dan Quayle expressed his belief in it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_canal

19th Century science. For a vice president of the United States to declare in 1989 that Mars has canals is both shocking and sad.

The canals gleam brightly under the hurtling twin moons of Mars...



http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee88/scdiver27/APrincessofMars.jpg

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 11:31 AM
http://www.jimloy.com/astro/marsmap2.gif

On the left is a map (upside down, as was traditional until recently when NASA started mapping planets rightside up) of Mars from the British Astronomical Association in 1896. And it shows canals, some single, and some parallel. (http://www.jimloy.com/astro/canals.htm)There is a WWW site that asks what amazing catastrophe has happened on Mars, to cover up all of the canals in just a century. The real question is why did respectable astronomers see canals when there were none?

Schiaparelli "discovered" the canals in 1877. He called them "canali" which means channels. He never suggested that they were artificial structures. The word was translated as "canals" in English. Soon people, including some astronomers, were convinced that these were canals dug by the inhabitants of Mars. Percival Lowell, in Arizona, was the leading mapper of Mars, and his maps show over 500 canals. The canals were dark lines, mostly straight, which connected larger dark areas (thought to be areas of vegetation) with each other, and with the polar ice caps. The story was that Mars was mostly desert, and the canals were built to transport water from the ice caps to cultivated areas.

All of these canals were just at the limit of visibility for naked eye astronomy. They were too faint for photography. At that limit, the eye and the brain play tricks on people. When they finally sent spacecraft to Mars, scientists expected to discover what the canals really were. Instead, they found that there were no canals, almost no straight lines at all. An occasional surface feature coincided with a canal or two, like parts of the Valles Marineris. Most of the canals did not exist at all, an amazing, contagious self-deception (see N-Rays), or what? I am told by a professional astronomer that the canals can still be seen, sometimes very clearly. So, it would seem that the canals are a mysterious optical illusion.

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 12:46 PM
http://www.jimloy.com/astro/marsmap2.gif

On the left is a map (upside down, as was traditional until recently when NASA started mapping planets rightside up) of Mars from the British Astronomical Association in 1896. And it shows canals, some single, and some parallel. There is a WWW site that asks what amazing catastrophe has happened on Mars, to cover up all of the canals in just a century. The real question is why did respectable astronomers see canals when there were none?

Schiaparelli "discovered" the canals in 1877. He called them "canali" which means channels. He never suggested that they were artificial structures. The word was translated as "canals" in English. Soon people, including some astronomers, were convinced that these were canals dug by the inhabitants of Mars. Percival Lowell, in Arizona, was the leading mapper of Mars, and his maps show over 500 canals. The canals were dark lines, mostly straight, which connected larger dark areas (thought to be areas of vegetation) with each other, and with the polar ice caps. The story was that Mars was mostly desert, and the canals were built to transport water from the ice caps to cultivated areas.

All of these canals were just at the limit of visibility for naked eye astronomy. They were too faint for photography. At that limit, the eye and the brain play tricks on people. When they finally sent spacecraft to Mars, scientists expected to discover what the canals really were. Instead, they found that there were no canals, almost no straight lines at all. An occasional surface feature coincided with a canal or two, like parts of the Valles Marineris. Most of the canals did not exist at all, an amazing, contagious self-deception (see N-Rays), or what? I am told by a professional astronomer that the canals can still be seen, sometimes very clearly. So, it would seem that the canals are a mysterious optical illusion.




What is your point? Are you claiming that a map of Mars from 1896 proves that Dan Quayle was correct or justified in claiming that Mars has canals? I hope not.

Did you read all the text you posted? From the text you posted...


When they finally sent spacecraft to Mars, scientists expected to discover what the canals really were. Instead, they found that there were no canals, almost no straight lines at all.

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 12:55 PM
..and we are neither shocked, nor sad, hell we aren't even surprised, let alone amused, that you are still to answer the question.

What are Barry Soetoro / Barack Hussein Obama's academic qualifications?

Why is it that you are pathologically incapable of answering this simple question? I have posted Dan Quayle's..now where is Obama's? We are still waiting for you to justify your comparison of their academic qualifications.

I will keep asking you.
I wont stop asking you.

I already told you why I think that Barack Obama is smarter than Dan Quayle. Obama has better academic credentials than Quayle. Obama attended Harvard, was elected editor and president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review, and graduated a J.D. Magna Cum Laude there.

And, let us be honest... Quayle has said some pretty stupid things... things which make any sensible person wonder about his intelligence.

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 12:57 PM
. For a vice president of the United States to declare in 1989 that Mars has canals is both shocking and sad.

Then you must be mortified beyond belief to learn that the US has 57 states according to Obama. Obama is running for Prez. not D.Q. So I take it, you think that Obama is dumb as a rock, and that you are going to vote for an idiot. BTW, all of us have said stupid things.

Eyelids
08-17-2008, 01:16 PM
I have no idea how you do it Night Owl..

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 01:26 PM
I have no idea how you do it Night Owl..

Obama---57 states and counting:eek::eek::eek:--YEE HAW ---Like you, Obama is dumb as a rock when it comes to Civics. Black History was substituted in its place.

Eyelids
08-17-2008, 01:32 PM
Can you point me to where he actually said that?

LibraryLady
08-17-2008, 01:36 PM
Obama Wants to Be President of 57 States

Posted on May 9, 2008


Hey, Obama! How many states are there? Well, ummm…we’ve been to 57 with one left to go, then subtract Hawaii and Alaska…ummmm…. Unbelievable! This guy wants to be the President of the U.S. and doesn’t know how many states we have! Surely this was from exhaustion. I just called my eight year old son in here and asked him to tell me what this man just said wrong! His reaction was priceless!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 01:39 PM
Can you point me to where he actually said that?

Google-- Obama and 57 states--Video clip of him saying he had been to 57 states and one (1) to go. What a dumb ass.

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 01:42 PM
Obama Wants to Be President of 57 States

Posted on May 9, 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Oh come on. What nonsense. Barack Obama obviously meant to say that he had been in 47 states. Do you honestly believe that a guy who graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard does not know the number of states which the US consists of?

Eyelids
08-17-2008, 01:58 PM
Well its pretty obvious he meant 47 states, hes been to Alaska and Hawaii (hes from there DERP) before but didn't on that campaign tour. Meaning he hasn't been to one state at the time of that video.

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 02:02 PM
Well its pretty obvious he meant 47 states, hes been to Alaska and Hawaii (hes from there DERP) before but didn't on that campaign tour. Meaning he hasn't been to one state at the time of that video.

Right...

47 states visited + 1 state to be visited + 2 states not visited = 50 states

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 02:10 PM
Oh come on. What nonsense. Barack Obama obviously meant to say that he had been in 47 states. Do you honestly believe that a guy who graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard does not know the number of states which the US consists of?

If you don't believe that D.Q. misspoke, then I don't believe Obama misspoke. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. BTW, I think Obama did misspeak. Same is true with D.Q. However, which mistake is worse. Once again, Dan Q., Clinton and the Bushes are not running for Prez. Obama is an amateur that does not have the necessary experience or the tools to be Prez. He has been a US Senator for 3 years; two of them he has spent campaigning for the Prez. He is still wet behind the ears.

In the debates, Mccain will mop the floor up with this newbee. Like I have said before, McCain will win PA and NJ and McCain will be declared the winner before the polls close on the west coast. You liberals have picked the wrong candidate once again.

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 02:17 PM
If you don't believe that D.Q. misspoke, then I don't believe Obama misspoke. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. BTW, I think Obama did not misspeak. Same is true with D.Q. However, which mistake is worse.

One can easily understand how a tired person might say one number when meaning to say another number. One cannot easily understand how a man who was 2nd in line to the most powerful office on Earth came to think, in 1989, that Mars has canals, water, and a breathable atmosphere.

Zathras
08-17-2008, 02:20 PM
WHAT? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER MY OBNOXIOUS SMALL-MAN'S SYNDROME!

Well, I see we're finally on the road to recovery. Good job Blinky. The first step is to admit you have a problem. You've done exactly that with the above quote.

LibraryLady
08-17-2008, 02:32 PM
Obama has made lots of gaffes:


Obama refers to the Banking Committee as "my committee. The problem is, Obama is not on the Banking Committee and is not on any of its subcommittees.


"Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor, to the threat of nuclear annihilation. Americans have adapted to the threats posed by an ever-changing world."



In Obama's famous DNC Convention speech, Obama says, "My father was a foreign student, born and raised in a small village in Kenya. He grew up herding goats, went to school in a tin-roof shack. His father -- my grandfather -- was a cook, a domestic servant to the British."
Kezia, Obama Sr.'s first wife tells a story that puts Obama's account to lie.
Kezia said: In 1955 Obama Sr. was 18 and working in an office in Nairobi, when he took Kezia from her family at the age of 16. Her father was furious.


Obama: "I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed."

Russert: "So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?"

Obama: "I will not."



On March 25th, the Chicago Tribune reports that an extensive search found no basis for an episode Obama recounts about a picture he ran across in Life magazine of a "black man who had tried to peel off his skin" in a failed effort to use chemicals to lighten it. Obama writes that "seeing that article was violent for me, an ambush attack."

The Tribune continued: "Yet no such Life issue exists, according to historians at the magazine. No such photos, no such article. When asked about the discrepancy, Obama said in a recent interview, "It might have been an Ebony or it might have been ... who knows what it was?"

At the request of the Tribune, archivists at Ebony searched their catalogue of past articles, none of which matched what Obama recalled."


Consider Obama's stirring tale for the Selma audience about how he had been conceived by his parents, Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham, because they had been inspired by the fervor following the "Bloody Sunday" voting rights demonstration that was commemorated March 4. "There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama," he said, "because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama"

Obama was born in 1961, and the Selma march occurred four years later, in 1965


Obama, caught up in the fervor of a campaign speech Tuesday, drastically overstated the Kansas tornadoes death toll, saying 10,000 had died.

"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed," the Democratic presidential candidate said in a speech to 500 people packed into a sweltering Richmond art studio for a fundraiser.

The death toll was 12.

Eyelids
08-17-2008, 02:37 PM
This is what election politics have degraded to.

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 02:40 PM
One can easily understand how a tired person might say one number when meaning to say another number. One cannot easily understand how a man who was 2nd in line to the most powerful office on Earth came to think, in 1989, that Mars has canals, water, and a breathable atmosphere.

Are you stupid? Once again, what is D.Q. running for? How many blunders has the Magic Negro and his wife made so far. A bunch by my calculations starting with his association with the Reverend Wright (Goddamn America) and her (For the first time in my life I am proud to be an American/or my country). Why would anyone want these two loons to be in the White House.

I guess what your intent of bringing D.Q. into the discussion is to show that Obama has exceeded the low expectations of a former V.P. Good luck with that because if that's all you have, you are going to be shit out of luck. Too funny. BTW, stay tuned because you will have to make many more excuses for Obama's faux pas.

Goldwater
08-17-2008, 04:10 PM
Dan Quayle just couldn't improvise well, hence the terrible mangling of his statements. Obama has made similar gaffes, not on the level or consistency of Quayle yet though.

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 06:03 PM
I already told you why I think that Barack Obama is smarter than Dan Quayle. Obama has better academic credentials than QuayWhat. Are. Obama's. Academic. Qualifications.

WILL YOU FOR FUCKS SAKE ANSWER THAT QUESTION

What are his credentials.
What are his degrees.

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 06:13 PM
What. Are. Obama's. Academic. Qualifications.

WILL YOU FOR FUCKS SAKE ANSWER THAT QUESTION

What are his credentials.
What are his degrees.


See post #52.

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 06:24 PM
Dan Quayle just couldn't improvise well, hence the terrible mangling of his statements. Obama has made similar gaffes, not on the level or consistency of Quayle yet though.

Dan Q. had several years to accomplish his gaffes. Obama is making whoppers on a regular basis each and every month. He is an amateur and McCain is going to eat his lunch. The media is so endeared by the Magic Negro that they will make excuses for anything that he botches up.

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 06:34 PM
Magna Cum Laude? really?

In what? You keep saying he has credentials but then we come back to this.

Occidental College records – Not released
Columbia College records – Not released
Columbia Thesis paper – “not available”
Harvard College records – Not released
Selective Service Registration – Not released - Be kinda fun to see just what it is the ObaMessiah has to hide.
Medical records – Not released
Illinois State Senate records – “not available”
Illinois State Senate schedule – “not available”
Law practice client list – Not released
Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – Not released
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth – Not released
Harvard Law Review articles published – None
University of Chicago scholarly articles - None

How do you know he graduated in anything when he wont release his records?

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 06:36 PM
Dan Q. had several years to accomplish his gaffes. Obama is making whoppers on a regular basis each and every month. He is an amateur and McCain is going to eat his lunch. The media is so endeared by the Magic Negro that they will make excuses for anything that he botches up.

Claiming that Mars has canals, liquid water, and breathable atmosphere is not simply a gaffe. It is a stupid statement.

lacarnut
08-17-2008, 06:48 PM
Claiming that Mars has canals, liquid water, and breathable atmosphere is not simply a gaffe. It is a stupid statement.

So is not knowing how may states in the Union. Stupid====57. That's my opinion. If the Magic Negro had taken Civics in H.S., he would know how many states there are. Once again, Obama is running for Prez. not D.Q. You must be a liberal if you don't get it. Obama is going to get stomped. BAAWWAAHHAA

Sonnabend
08-17-2008, 06:53 PM
Claiming that Mars has canals, liquid water, and breathable atmosphere is not simply a gaffe. It is a stupid statement.

Mars does have liquid water. OOPS...

The Night Owl
08-17-2008, 07:54 PM
Mars does have liquid water. OOPS...

Mars does not have liquid water. Liquid water evaporates or freezes very quickly in the thin Mars atmosphere and cannot persist long enough to create the canals Dan Quayle talked about.

AmPat
08-17-2008, 11:00 PM
What do canals on Earth have to do with Dan Quayle's claim that Mars has canals?

The idea that Mars has canals and liquid water was already very outdated when Dan Quayle expressed his belief in it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_canal

19th Century science. For a vice president of the United States to declare in 1989 that Mars has canals is both shocking and sad.

For Barrack Barry Hussein Obama-Sosteros, (BBHO-S) to claim we have 58 States is pretty stupid. The longer BBHO-S stays a gleam in the Liberal's eyes, he will be on stage and have increased oportunities to say some more stupid things. Much like the former V.P.

BBHO-S hasn't been in the limelight nearly as much as Dan yet has already run up the scoreboard with some tremendously stupid remarks (and I don't mean gaffs, his DIM views are enough).

patriot45
08-18-2008, 01:49 PM
There is a picture of a mouse on mars!
























http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i230/patriot45270/marsmouse.jpg