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Gingersnap
09-20-2010, 11:20 AM
Fears that teen girls pressured to look like porn stars

* Carly Hennessy, Sam Healy and Daryl Passmore
* From: The Sunday Mail (Qld)
* September 19, 2010 12:00AM

GIRLS as young as 14 are getting Brazilian waxes, a trend experts have labelled ''pornification'' of teenagers.

Intimate beauty treatments are becoming popular with girls as boyfriends demand they look like porn stars, the experts say.

Leading child protection advocate Hetty Johnston said the trend was ''scary'' and called for legislation to stop it.

While you must be 18 to get a tattoo in Queensland, as well as some types of intimate body piercings, there is no age limit on waxing, although many salons require parental permission for under-16s.

With the formal season about to start and Schoolies just around the corner, beauticians are seeing an increase in girls grooming for the big events.

Author Melinda Tankard-Reist said the ''pornification'' of youth culture was having a diabolical effect on young girls' body image.

''Their boyfriends are putting pressure on them to have the pre-pubescent porn star look,'' Ms Tankard-Reist said.

''They've come to despise their natural bodies,'' she said.

Ms Johnston said it was impossible to not make the connection between young girls getting Brazilians and the increased sexualisation of children.

''Everything they are watching, seeing, doing is about sex. They're growing up in an R-rated society,'' she said.

I don't really know what to say. I've been to a few weddings recently where the bride has completely denuded herself in anticipation of the "party" (I say party because the sex, living together, and in some cases, children, have already happened).

I mean these women have no down on their arms, let alone hair below the waist. I thought this was excessive but allowing 14 year olds to do it seems almost abusive. :(

Courier Mail (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/sunday-mail/fears-that-teen-girls-pressured-to-look-like-porn-stars/story-e6frep2f-1225925965930)

djones520
09-20-2010, 11:28 AM
My experience on the topic, has been that the women that I know who do it, do it for themselves. Not for the sexual aspect of it. They just prefer the hairlessness. I don't see a problem with it personally.

noonwitch
09-20-2010, 11:58 AM
My mom originally told me I couldn't shave my legs until I was 14, but I wanted to do it anyways, so I used her razor one night when I was about 11 and did it dry. She bought me razors after that and told me to do it in the shower to avoid getting that rash again. I can't imagine ever needing to shave that part of my body, though. I'm just not that hairy.

My sister told her 10 year old she can't shave her legs until she gets her period. I asked my niece in private if she understood that she should never do it dry if she's sneaking around behind her mother's back about it. She does. I also have another secret with her-she watches South Park at a friend's house.

Gingersnap
09-20-2010, 12:41 PM
My experience on the topic, has been that the women that I know who do it, do it for themselves. Not for the sexual aspect of it. They just prefer the hairlessness. I don't see a problem with it personally.

My experience is just the opposite (although women will say they do it for personal vanity). It's pretty common for a woman to forgo any waxing procedures (aside from facial ones) when she's ended a relationship and has no intention of getting naked in front of a sexual partner for some months. These women make an appointment when they've met a new guy with potential.

If they really just did it for personal aesthetic reasons, they'd keep it up regardless of the sexual scorecard just like they do with hair coloring.

djones520
09-20-2010, 12:45 PM
My experience is just the opposite (although women will say they do it for personal vanity). It's pretty common for a woman to forgo any waxing procedures (aside from facial ones) when she's ended a relationship and has no intention of getting naked in front of a sexual partner for some months. These women make an appointment when they've met a new guy with potential.

If they really just did it for personal aesthetic reasons, they'd keep it up regardless of the sexual scorecard just like they do with hair coloring.

Well maybe people are just backwards in Colorado. :p

SaintLouieWoman
09-20-2010, 12:48 PM
I don't really know what to say. I've been to a few weddings recently where the bride has completely denuded herself in anticipation of the "party" (I say party because the sex, living together, and in some cases, children, have already happened).

I mean these women have no down on their arms, let alone hair below the waist. I thought this was excessive but allowing 14 year olds to do it seems almost abusive. :(

Courier Mail (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/sunday-mail/fears-that-teen-girls-pressured-to-look-like-porn-stars/story-e6frep2f-1225925965930)

Exactly how do you know that the bride has denuded herself--other than the areas you can readily see? That's nothing I've ever been privy to when attending a wedding. TMI.

Odysseus
09-20-2010, 12:53 PM
I don't really know what to say. I've been to a few weddings recently where the bride has completely denuded herself in anticipation of the "party" (I say party because the sex, living together, and in some cases, children, have already happened).

I mean these women have no down on their arms, let alone hair below the waist. I thought this was excessive but allowing 14 year olds to do it seems almost abusive. :(

Courier Mail (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/sunday-mail/fears-that-teen-girls-pressured-to-look-like-porn-stars/story-e6frep2f-1225925965930)

A Brazilian Wax on a 14 year-old girl is like a mustache on a 14 year-old boy. In the vast majority of cases, you won't be able to tell that it's there.

Gingersnap
09-20-2010, 01:06 PM
Exactly how do you know that the bride has denuded herself--other than the areas you can readily see? That's nothing I've ever been privy to when attending a wedding. TMI.

Because they tell me - how else? :confused:

Your girlfriends don't talk to you about going to the salon or getting waxed or manicured? Heck, I've had some invite me along because they didn't want to go alone. :confused:

People are fairly forthcoming about all this stuff today.

Wei Wu Wei
09-20-2010, 01:27 PM
Phallocentric sexuality (with women being sex-objects) is taught from the very start of socialization. This is not that surprising.

Odysseus
09-20-2010, 04:19 PM
Phallocentric sexuality (with women being sex-objects) is taught from the very start of socialization. This is not that surprising.

You have been educated beyond your intelligence.

noonwitch
09-20-2010, 04:24 PM
You have been educated beyond your intelligence.

I don't agree with Wei often, but he's right about this.


I remember when I was in middle school (age10-13), me and my friends all read Teen magazine. It wasn't the articles that were objectionable, it was the advertising. Love's Baby Soft, in particular, had some really inappropriate ads, with adult women dressed as little girls. Or some of the lip gloss ads had way too sexy of slogans for kids in that age group. Teen was the mag the middle school girls read in the 70s, Seventeen was for high school girls and college freshmen.

I don't think anything has gotten better in the 30 something years that have passed.

Wei Wu Wei
09-20-2010, 04:27 PM
You have been educated beyond your intelligence.

The more I learn the more I realize how much I don't know.

Odysseus
09-20-2010, 07:11 PM
The more I learn the more I realize how much I don't know.

The more that you write, the more we realize how much you don't know. :D

AmPat
09-20-2010, 10:34 PM
I know way more about women now than I ever wanted. thanks alot Ginger.:( Pandora's box?

Gingersnap
09-20-2010, 10:35 PM
I know way more about women now than I ever wanted. thanks alot Ginger.:( Pandora's box?

There's always Hope. :p

NJCardFan
09-20-2010, 10:41 PM
I know way more about women now than I ever wanted. thanks alot Ginger.:( Pandora's box?

Is this one of those double entendres I heard tell about?

AmPat
09-20-2010, 10:43 PM
Is this one of those double entendres I heard tell about?

Right on.

Bubba Dawg
09-20-2010, 10:48 PM
Okay. I'm NOT going to get a mental picture of this topic.

But, no way a young girl could get even a million waxes, much less a brazilian of them.

I mean, even Lurkie, at her advanced age, has barely gone beyond a half a brazilian. :rolleyes:

And she has to contend with ass-rashes and Marlborough Butts.

Let's try to be a little realistic here.

m00
09-20-2010, 11:25 PM
The more I learn the more I realize how much I don't know.

That's almost the same thing Reagan said about you. :p

Lager
09-20-2010, 11:44 PM
Phallocentric sexuality (with women being sex-objects) is taught from the very start of socialization. This is not that surprising.

Ah yes, another result of the great victory of feminists. They rallied against the inherent treatment of women as sex objects and won the right for women to be able to choose for themselves...... to be volutarily treated as sex objects. Progressive indeed.

Gingersnap
09-21-2010, 12:01 AM
Ah yes, another result of the great victory of feminists. They rallied against the inherent treatment of women as sex objects and won the right for women to be able to choose for themselves...... to be volutarily treated as sex objects. Progressive indeed.

There's something to this. Women get waxed (or shave) partly to be visually acceptable and partly to be less "objectionable" for oral sex. Some college-age males also denude themselves for these reasons.

It's basically a bow to porn culture. The idea being that your "interaction" should be quick, anonymous, easy to clean up, and not "revolting" on any level.

Real sex is intimate, funny, slow, and full of "your body does/looks like this?" surprises. It's not Photo-Shopped. It doesn't involve acting (hopefully). There's no "perfect" setting.

When a young girl denudes herself to feel "grow-up", she's not doing it right. Neither are her older sisters who strip their arms of down. Caucasians have body hair - in women mostly soft and unobtrusive, in men more aggressive.

This is not a defect - it's a feature.

CueSi
09-21-2010, 02:05 PM
Ginger, I'll concede the bow to porn culture... When I was dancing... the little hair I DID have down there, my manager was constantly trying to get me to get rid of it. I said that I didn't want to look like I was 9 years old, and that keeping the small amount of hair I DID have helped distinguish me from the rest.

I admit I keep shaving mostly to keep the area clean when I menstruate. . .the rest of the time, eh.

However, I disagree with this:


The idea being that your "interaction" should be quick, anonymous, easy to clean up, and not "revolting" on any level.

Does shaving automatically mean that the above is how you have sex? Not always. I admit when I reach the point where sex is on the table, I DO shave, but I ask if that's how a guy or girl rolls. . . I admit I don't MIND hair on either guys or girls (mostly because I aesthetically like moderately hairy - -retro is hawt to me).

~QC

Gingersnap
09-21-2010, 02:51 PM
Ginger, I'll concede the bow to porn culture... When I was dancing... the little hair I DID have down there, my manager was constantly trying to get me to get rid of it. I said that I didn't want to look like I was 9 years old, and that keeping the small amount of hair I DID have helped distinguish me from the rest.

I admit I keep shaving mostly to keep the area clean when I menstruate. . .the rest of the time, eh.

However, I disagree with this:

Does shaving automatically mean that the above is how you have sex? Not always. I admit when I reach the point where sex is on the table, I DO shave, but I ask if that's how a guy or girl rolls. . . I admit I don't MIND hair on either guys or girls (mostly because I aesthetically like moderately hairy - -retro is hawt to me).

~QC

It doesn't automatically mean that but pressure is always on women to more closely resemble the porn du jour. Right now, that's a hairless female with DD breasts and a photoshop complexion. In 10 years, who knows what it will be. It just won't be good. :(

Bailey
09-21-2010, 03:02 PM
It doesn't automatically mean that but pressure is always on women to more closely resemble the porn du jour. Right now, that's a hairless female with DD breasts and a photoshop complexion. In 10 years, who knows what it will be. It just won't be good. :(

You make that out to be a bad thing :D



Me and my GF at the time shaved ourselves just to see what it was like and let me tell you IT ROCKED.:eek: Not to look younger down there but (for the lack of a better word) everything moved easier

Apache
09-21-2010, 07:06 PM
I, quite frankly, like the cleaner side of shaved...

Gets really expensive going to the barber to get your teeth cleaned...;)

Odysseus
09-21-2010, 08:16 PM
I, quite frankly, like the cleaner side of shaved...

Gets really expensive going to the barber to get your teeth cleaned...;)

Why get the barber to clean your teeth? It doubles as dental floss. :D

CueSi
09-22-2010, 01:52 AM
It doesn't automatically mean that but pressure is always on women to more closely resemble the porn du jour. Right now, that's a hairless female with DD breasts and a photoshop complexion. In 10 years, who knows what it will be. It just won't be good. :(

I guess I don't feel that pressure too much. I will look how I look. Some people will like me, some won't.

I don't think porn du jour . . .there are so many different kinds of porn - - that to say that there is ONE perfect type of "porn girl". Some dudes like Sasha Grey. Some like Jenna Haze. Some like Marie Luv. Some like Kobe Tai.

I'm more a Christy Canyon girl m'self.

~QC

noonwitch
09-22-2010, 08:39 AM
Why get the barber to clean your teeth? It doubles as dental floss. :D



I believe my brother told me that joke when he was about 13.

Odysseus
09-22-2010, 10:22 AM
I believe my brother told me that joke when he was about 13.

Who do you think told it to him? :D