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SarasotaRepub
09-27-2010, 07:31 PM
And as proof positive Stinky isn't that bright... (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9209501)




Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-27-10 01:33 PM
Original message Ya wanna cure our "shitty" education system? Just one word is necessary:


FUNDING

The tax cutting mania in the problem. Not shitty teachers. Sure, there probably *are* some shitty teachers. :eek: (Really???) Just like there are shitty doctors, shitty newsreaders, shitty garbage collectors, shitty car mechanics, shitty cops, and *for* *sure* shitty politicians.

We find ways to fund the war machine.

We find ways to fund big bidniss.

But we can't fund health care

But we can't fund a social safety net (instead, we discuss cutting it)

And we SURE can't fund education.

I dare say the overwhelming majority of teachers actually give an actual shit about what they do.

Politicians and people who have that motherfucking teabagger mentality, not so much.



FUNDING, people. That's what it needs.

FUNDING.


Why anyone on DU thinks this guy is worth reading is beyond me. :rolleyes::D

Hey DUmmies, go look at your Property Tax Bill and see what the biggest chunk of it is for. Morons.

Constitutionally Speaking
09-27-2010, 07:40 PM
Jesus H Christ! George Bush damned near DOUBLED education funding and these guys want MORE.

I got an idea. Let's close ALL of the public schools and let private industry take over - I guarantee better results and FAR lower costs.

SarasotaRepub
09-27-2010, 07:48 PM
Jesus H Christ! George Bush damned near DOUBLED education funding and these guys want MORE.


Of course they do. They're idiots.

AmPat
09-27-2010, 07:53 PM
Ya wanna cure our "shitty" education system? Just one word is necessary: I suggest two words: "YOU'RE FIRED!"

Get rid of the NEA.
Make it illegal to lobby for ANYTHING
Raise the standards for teachers to attract ONLY the very best candidates
Pay teachers for being the best.
GET FEDERAL GOV'T OUT of Education!

Carol
09-27-2010, 08:06 PM
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39. The pukes and the fundies do not want an educated populace.

They want people who are just smart enough to push the right buttons, and that are stupid enough to accept all the increasingly shittier jobs being offerred. The fundies want a Taliban-style government that persecutes anyone they do not like (but are afraid to admit it). An educated society is a truly free society. That's why Glenn Beck and his merry band of idiots are always the first to dismiss education reform. They'll call it socialist and nazi-esque. Our leaders will never admit this, and as such, they'll never work to fix it.

L0oniX (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Sep-27-10 06:17 PM
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57. Educated people embarrass the repukes, tea baggers and fundies.

A stupid person is exposed as being stupid by the educated just like a good worker is hated by all the others who don't do good work. When you do your job well it makes the others who don't, look bad. The only way a tea bagger can avoid exposure of their stupidity in a crowd of educated people, is to shut the hell up. A fool who remains quite in a crowd may be deemed as being wise - bible quote.This must be why all those schools in Democrat controlled cities from Democrat controlled states are at the top of the charts for reading and math proficiency and graduation rates.

Do I really need the sarcasm indicator?

Molon Labe
09-27-2010, 08:16 PM
Jesus H Christ! George Bush damned near DOUBLED education funding and these guys want MORE.

I got an idea. Let's close ALL of the public schools and let private industry take over - I guarantee better results and FAR lower costs.

these people don't know what the word "enough" means.

Dan D. Doty
09-28-2010, 01:26 AM
these people don't know what the word "enough" means.

Yes, they do.

When all the money is gone and the system is broken beyond repair; then the Moonbats move along to " help " someone else :rolleyes:

cajunrevenge
09-28-2010, 02:53 AM
Typical liberals wanting to throw money at the problem. To me it seems the more computer and other technology they put in the classroom the dumber the kids get. In 10 years school will just be a "how to" guide to use google.

noonwitch
09-28-2010, 08:41 AM
I suggest two words: "YOU'RE FIRED!"

Get rid of the NEA.
Make it illegal to lobby for ANYTHING
Raise the standards for teachers to attract ONLY the very best candidates
Pay teachers for being the best.
GET FEDERAL GOV'T OUT of Education!




There are ways to limit the union to what it's founding purpose is-to ensure that teachers are treated fairly by their employers. That means they are there to address workplace safety issues, represent teachers at disciplinary hearings, and make sure that teachers aren't fired for unfair reasons-like age, race, etc. If those reforms were forced upon the NEA/AFT, coupled with legislation that forbids teachers from striking (like every other public employee union has agreed to), then there would be serious changes made.

The DPS teachers are represented by the AFT. They go on strike every 4-5 years, and they get paid a lot, considering there is such a high drop out rate and all. There are some good teachers still left in the DPS, who deserve to be paid well and have a good union represent them. There are some average teachers, and there are way too many who just don't care.

FlaGator
09-28-2010, 08:47 AM
As Neal Boortz likes to point out, Atlanta spends more per student that any city in the nation and still manages to be one of the poorest performing school systems.

ralph wiggum
09-28-2010, 09:15 AM
As Neal Boortz likes to point out, Atlanta spends more per student that any city in the nation and still manages to be one of the poorest performing school systems.

Ditto with Chicago.

It amazes me that Stinky & the other libs think just throwing money at a problem is the solution. Well, it doesn't amaze me...that's how they feel about most economic policy.

Lager
09-28-2010, 09:30 AM
Money is their answer to everything. Other people's money. :)

Arroyo_Doble
09-28-2010, 09:32 AM
I got an idea. Let's close ALL of the public schools and let private industry take over - I guarantee better results and FAR lower costs.

As long as they cannot pick and choose who attends.

NJCardFan
09-28-2010, 09:55 AM
Well, he does have a point. It's like a hole. The more dirt you throw into it, eventually it's going to fill up, right? Trouble is that the public education hole is bottomless.

AmPat
09-28-2010, 02:25 PM
There are ways to limit the union to what it's founding purpose is-to ensure that teachers are treated fairly by their employers. That means they are there to address workplace safety issues, represent teachers at disciplinary hearings, and make sure that teachers aren't fired for unfair reasons-like age, race, etc. If those reforms were forced upon the NEA/AFT, coupled with legislation that forbids teachers from striking (like every other public employee union has agreed to), then there would be serious changes made.

The DPS teachers are represented by the AFT. They go on strike every 4-5 years, and they get paid a lot, considering there is such a high drop out rate and all. There are some good teachers still left in the DPS, who deserve to be paid well and have a good union represent them. There are some average teachers, and there are way too many who just don't care.

A better solution than a high price and destructive union- We have LAWS that prohibit unfair firing and ensure a level playing field. No need for the destructive, intrusive, and expensive union interferrence.