Whoever "Stray Cat" is this person hit it right on the head

[Cseeman]

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I Love this sequence of postings :


salinen (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-10-10 11:55 AM
Original message
The U.S. is a failed State
Oh I know. There are examples of countries worse than the U.S. But lets just consider a few facts:

- Corporations have lobbied and won the privilege of being compensated for shipping jobs and factories elsewhere.
- Most of congress are completely beholden to their benefactors.
- Obscenely expensive elections favor the corporate interest.
- The chamber of commerce and others have no allegiance to state, only to capital.
- The media is either hard right, or right, with few exceptions.
- The military industrial complex is alive and the only true American industry of any significance.
- Democracy and Capitalism are by nature at odds. Capitalism is winning.
- The Treasury was recently robbed by banks, insurance, and Wall street. Nothing for the unconnected.
- The most people incarcerated per capita.
- The most homicides per capita.
- The most murders per capita.
- A failing education system.
- A failing infrastructure.
- Damaged social safety system.
- Health care failure. Too expensive. Get really sick and file bankruptcy or decline the needed procedure.
- A popular explosion of anti-intellectualism.
- A viable movement toward fascism (tea party) and away from progressivism (no movement).
- A surveillance state. You're on camera!

I could go on.



stray cat (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-10-10 12:01 PM
Response to Original message
1. I have some friends who would like to trade citizenship with you




WOW ........... I could not have said it better myself

[NJCardFan]

Wow...allow me to retort:


Corporations have lobbied and won the privilege of being compensated for shipping jobs and factories elsewhere.
We have the highest corporate tax in the world. This is why companies take such highly skilled jobs like telemarketing overseas. It's cheaper.


Most of congress are completely beholden to their benefactors.
That they are. Like labor unions, race groups, etc...


Obscenely expensive elections favor the corporate interest.
Doesn't cost a dime to pres the flesh. And let's not forget that the aforementioned labor unions contribute a whole mess of money toward campaigns. And does the name George Soros ring an bells?


The chamber of commerce and others have no allegiance to state, only to capital.
This has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen.


The media is either hard right, or right, with few exceptions.
Remember what I just said about the above statement? Forget about it. I stand corrected. This ought to tell you how far left these people are.


The military industrial complex is alive and the only true American industry of any significance.

The irony of this statement is astounding. Amazing that these idiot just don't realize that if it weren't for the military industrial complex, they wouldn't be able to say the idiotic things they say on a minutely basis.


The Treasury was recently robbed by banks, insurance, and Wall street. Nothing for the unconnected.

Um, your president and congress willingly handed that money over you dope.


The most people incarcerated per capita.
And a vast majority of these people are democrat supporters.


The most homicides per capita.
- The most murders per capita.
Murder is homicide, genius.


A failing education system.
For once we agree on something. Care to guess which ideology is responsible?


A failing infrastructure.
Really? How so?


Damaged social safety system.
What the hell does this mean? Want to know what else is damaged? Work ethic, self reliance, and personal responsibility. With all of those, you wouldn't need a "social safety system".


Health care failure. Too expensive. Get really sick and file bankruptcy or decline the needed procedure.
Well, maybe next time invest in health insurance instead of buying that Droid phone, XBox, 60" TV, Cadillac Escalade, etc...Just a thought.


A popular explosion of anti-intellectualism.
This, again, comes from your side.


A viable movement toward fascism (tea party) and away from progressivism (no movement).
Isn't funny how a movement that promotes self reliance, personal responsibility, moral values, less reliance on government and work ethic is considered fascism yet another movement toward more dependence and reliance on the state is considered progressive?


A surveillance state. You're on camera!
Finally discovered Youtube did we?

You know what salinen? All of what you want is a scant few hundred miles to the south in places like Cuba, Venezuela, and across the ocean in China and North Korea. There is no anchor tied to your ass. Just leave. A vast majority of people in this country don't want that but you do so stop beating your gums and go. Leave. Pussy.

[Dan D. Doty]

Drama overload because Salinen doesn't have Socialist Utopia.

Lets break this down, shall we.

* Hates Capitalism and free speech ( corporations).

* Hates hearing things that doesn't match drama going on in his head ( media)

* Hates the military

* Doesn't understand the workings of Constitional Republic ( no surprise)

* Doesn't understand the criminal justice system

* Doesn't understand the educational system ( of course not after you and the Moonbats f*cked with it for years).

Anti-Itellectualism? No, just a movement back to common sense ( something you've never engaged in).

Fascist movement? No, that would you and your buddies Salinen, not the Tea Party or anyone else who doesn't want you, or someone like you hijacking their lives.

Surveillance state? How else are you and buddies going to keep an eye on people who disagree with you?


Looks like Salinen is bucking for drama queen of 2010.