View Full Version : Where's the climate change?

10-15-2010, 05:53 PM
Reposted from Andrew Bolt (http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/)

Professors Dr Klaus Landfried of Heidelberg and Dr Werner Kirstein of the Institute for Geography at the University of Leipzig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Leipzig) hold a seminar University of Leipzig:

The seminar is titled: ”Where’s The Climate Change? (http://notrickszone.com/2010/10/15/climate-change-now-questioned-at-german-universities-professors-speaking-up/)…
At the 7:10 mark Dr Landfried slams any peer review process run by a good ol boys network.

In the world of science it is unavoidable, as humans are involved, that there are always attempts to portray truths as unacceptable, or to try to suppress them using methods that have nothing to do with science, and perhaps to even slander persons in an attempt shut them up. One method used here is to claim that everything that is good must go through peer review.Dr Landfried delivers his speech forcefully, slamming peer review processes that involve a cartel of ideas, where some participants are excluded, and the others focus on concentrating their power. He reminds us that the misuse of peer review has always been a problem in science…
At the 13-minute mark, Dr. Werner Kirstein starts his presentation. He addresses three main topics:
1. Are the IPCC model-based climate projections something to be taken seriously?…
2. Sea level rise and glaciers

- Satellite photos show that Bangladesh is actually growing 20 sq km (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sq_km) per year…
- Rahmstorf projects 140 cm rise, Fred Singer 18 cm, the GFZ 2mm/yr, Mörner max. 20cm by 2100
- North German coast: no detection of any acceleration in sea level rise.
- For the Pacific Micronesia, tectonics are at play.
- Observations vs models, nature vs IPCC....
- In the last 10,000 years, glaciers have been smaller than they are today 2/3 of the time.
- Arctic ice is also within boundaries of natural variation.
3. The controversy and politics of climate change

Many meteorologists say about climate science: “ That’s political and has nothing to do with science.”
Dr. Kirstein: “Climate change? – That’s political and has nothing to do with normal science, it’s post-normal science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-normal_science).” With post-normal science, politics is at the forefront and science is just a tool to promote and drive “good” policy” by spreading fear and sticking to a dogma. In the early 1980s, “scientists” projected that all trees would die in Europe by 2005.
Meanwhile in Australia, the rains are back:

FOR Steve Barbon, the decade-long drought has broken. When the Griffith grapegrower checked his rain gauge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_gauge) yesterday morning, a massive 57ml of rain had fallen overnight, and it was still pelting down…
The deluge, and flood alerts in the Murrumbidgee area, brought a sense of irony to Mr Barbon, who a day earlier at a community meeting had listened to Murray-Darling Basin Authority bureaucrats tell him and 5000 other Griffith residents that the environmental state of the rivers was so bad farmers might have to relinquish up to 43 per cent of their water entitlements.
”You know with climate change, it’s a cycle (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/deluge-breaks-murray-darling-drought/story-e6frg6xf-1225939422213),” Mr Barbon said yesterda

Cue wilbur, who has admitted he has NO qualifications in climate science, to tell us these men are "crackpots" too.

That list of "a few crackpots" is getting larger every day................