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Sonnabend
10-16-2010, 07:06 AM
Link (http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/turkey-wants-israeli-apology-for-fatal-raid/story-e6frfku0-1225939630264)

TURKEY'S prime minister has again accused Israel of "state terrorism" and called on the Jewish state to apologise and compensate victims of a raid on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan said: "the Israeli government must apologise and compensate (victims) for the state terrorism in the Mediterranean." He was addressing members of his Islamic-oriented party at a weekend retreat today. Eight Turks and one person with American and Turkish nationality were killed in the May 31 raid on a ship carrying pro-Palestinian activists trying to breach Israel's naval blockade of Gaza.

Israel insists its commandos opened fire after they were attacked by activists Relations between the two former allies have been deteriorating since Israel's Gaza war and hit a low point after the raid.









To which, the Israelis should reply with a hearty, but very well meant, "FUCK YOU"

m00
10-16-2010, 11:14 AM
Guess this means Israel is free to cozy up with the Kurds.

Wei Wu Wei
10-16-2010, 12:15 PM
The UN report about the flotilla incident concluded:


"The conduct of the Israeli military and other personnel towards the flotilla passengers was not only disproportionate to the occasion but demonstrated levels of totally unnecessary and incredible violence. It betrayed an unacceptable level of brutality. Such conduct cannot be justified or condoned on security or any other grounds. It constituted grave violations of human rights law and international humanitarian law."

The panel concluded that there was "clear evidence" of wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment and wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health – all crimes under the Geneva Convention."


They also went into specific detail about inhumane executions performed on the boat, including using a non-lethal bag gun at point-blank range on a person, shattering their skull and forcing the bean bag into their brain. Also Shooting at people from helicopters with live ammunition, shooting civilians that were unarmed, and executing others who were laying down.


If you read this report and took out the name "Israel" everyone would be all over this. This is another example of a long list of disgusting, inhumane behavior that we totally support with our tax dollars by sending billions of dollars and weapons to them every year.


(the best, most ironic part is even after all of this, people are more willing to cut assistance for American poor than we are to cut weapons spending for Israeli war crimes)

Odysseus
10-16-2010, 02:46 PM
The UN report about the flotilla incident concluded:

They also went into specific detail about inhumane executions performed on the boat, including using a non-lethal bag gun at point-blank range on a person, shattering their skull and forcing the bean bag into their brain. Also Shooting at people from helicopters with live ammunition, shooting civilians that were unarmed, and executing others who were laying down.


If you read this report and took out the name "Israel" everyone would be all over this. This is another example of a long list of disgusting, inhumane behavior that we totally support with our tax dollars by sending billions of dollars and weapons to them every year.


(the best, most ironic part is even after all of this, people are more willing to cut assistance for American poor than we are to cut weapons spending for Israeli war crimes)

If the report weren't about Israel, the UN wouldn't have written it. The UN has become a bastion of anti-semitic libels and has no credibility on the subject of the Middle East.

djones520
10-16-2010, 02:49 PM
Leave it to Wei to sympathize with a people who attacked armed soldiers executing a legal boarding action in a legal blockade zone. :rolleyes:

Then again, not sure why i'm suprised. He's the guy who sympathizes with a terrorist organization who attacks hospitals and aid convoys.

Oh and Wei... these people you're crying over. They were smuggling weapons to Hamas.

http://www.janes.com/news/defence/naval/jni/jni100602_1_n.shtml


Later that day the ship was brought into the Israeli port of Ashdod, where searchers found "a supply of weapons including knives, Molotov cocktails, detonators, wood and metal clubs, slingshots and rocks, large hammers and sharp metal objects", according to the Israel Defence Force (IDF). "In addition gas masks were found, pointing to the prior intention of the ship's passengers to use violence against IDF soldiers who would then be forced to use riot dispersal methods."

http://www.janes.com/news/defence/naval/jni/jni100602_1_n.shtml

FlaGator
10-16-2010, 03:06 PM
The UN report about the flotilla incident concluded:

<snip>


This is the same UN that has Iran on it's Women's Commission.

This is the same Iran that stones to death women guilty of adultery, who force women to marry their rapist even if she is already married, who support Muslim clerics who state that husbands cannot be guilty of the rape of their wives.

UN reports have about as much of a chance of representing the truth as the UN Women's Commission has of doing something positive for Muslim women.

m00
10-16-2010, 05:08 PM
Leave it to Wei to sympathize with a people who attacked armed soldiers executing a legal boarding action in a legal blockade zone. :rolleyes:

Then again, not sure why i'm suprised. He's the guy who sympathizes with a terrorist organization who attacks hospitals and aid convoys.

Oh and Wei... these people you're crying over. They were smuggling weapons to Hamas.

http://www.janes.com/news/defence/naval/jni/jni100602_1_n.shtml



http://www.janes.com/news/defence/naval/jni/jni100602_1_n.shtml

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:gH5jw69osf78KM:http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/af610636c53063716dafcb227fb5448a.jpg&t=1

Wei Wei

Wei Wu Wei
10-17-2010, 12:59 PM
To which, the Israelis should reply with a hearty, but very well meant, "FUCK YOU"

This is exactly how Israel responds to any peace moves.

"Hey Israel could you uh...stop building settlements on Palestinian land?
"FUCK YOU -*shoots Palestinian child*
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html



"Okay well um...could you ease up on water and land restrictions of Arabs?" "FUCK YOU! *demolishes Palestinian playground*"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11101797
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoczZtOTn4g


Alright Israel if you aren't going to do anything for them could you at least ease up on the blockade so other people can bring the Palestinians food and medicine?
"FUCK YOU - *shoots at boat from helicopter, ropes down, executes civilians laying face down at point blank range*"

http://bit.ly/FlotillaReport

However, it has concluded that live ammunition was used from the helicopter onto the top deck prior to the descent of the soldiers. ..
The Mission has found no evidence to suggest that any of the passengers used firearms or that any firearms were taken on board the ship...
Israeli soldiers continued shooting at passengers who had already been wounded, with live ammunition, soft baton charges (beanbags) and plastic bullets. Forensic analysis demonstrates that two of the passengers killed on the top deck received wounds compatible with being shot at close range while lying on the ground: Furkan Doğan received a bullet in the face and İbrahim Bilgen received a fatal wound from a soft baton round (beanbag) fired at such close proximity to his head that parts such as wadding penetrated his skull entered his brain.



"Okay Israel would you at least please chill with the forced population transfers and Palestinian apartheid?" FUCK YOU - *uses Palestinian child as personal body-armor*
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11570.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11462635

An Israeli military court has convicted two Israeli soldiers for using a Palestinian child as a human shield during an offensive in Gaza in 2009.

Rockntractor
10-17-2010, 01:55 PM
This is exactly how Israel responds to any peace moves.

"Hey Israel could you uh...stop building settlements on Palestinian land?
"FUCK YOU -*shoots Palestinian child*
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html



"Okay well um...could you ease up on water and land restrictions of Arabs?" "FUCK YOU! *demolishes Palestinian playground*"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11101797
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoczZtOTn4g


Alright Israel if you aren't going to do anything for them could you at least ease up on the blockade so other people can bring the Palestinians food and medicine?
"FUCK YOU - *shoots at boat from helicopter, ropes down, executes civilians laying face down at point blank range*"

http://bit.ly/FlotillaReport




"Okay Israel would you at least please chill with the forced population transfers and Palestinian apartheid?" FUCK YOU - *uses Palestinian child as personal body-armor*
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11570.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11462635
You go Wei Wei ! Testify!

Arroyo_Doble
10-17-2010, 01:59 PM
The world has changed. Now, we cheer nations that off Americans if we disagree with those Americans politically.

Rockntractor
10-17-2010, 02:03 PM
The world has changed. Now, we cheer nations that off Americans if we disagree with those Americans politically.

Wei Wei has disgusted even a liberal?
He is providing intelligent thought provoking debate!:confused:

Wei Wu Wei
10-17-2010, 02:16 PM
The world has changed. Now, we cheer nations that off Americans if we disagree with those Americans politically.

Care to specify which nation is being cheered?

Sonnabend
10-18-2010, 02:25 AM
Eeri, i don't get myself into a lather about "Palestinians" as I may as well get into a tizzy over someone shooting the Easter Bunny.

There is no such place as Palestine. They are Arabs no one wants. Fuck 'em.

As far as your screed is concerned, no one gives a ratfuck because the "supplies" they carried were useless anyway, the HAMAStinians didn't want them and refused to allow them to be sent through. So much for that meme.

The entire thing was a media and publicity stunt, and little else.

Israel wants peace,well that's easily done.

Bulldoze Gaza, send these troublemaking Arabs off to other Arab nations....oh wait, they dont want them either..too bad... if the other Arab states are that concerned, let THEM give them a State, they've got the land.

Screw 'em. They made their bed, they're the ones provoking Israel, they're the ones lobbing rockets into Israel every single day..turn Gaza into a parking lot.

D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F?

AmPat
10-18-2010, 10:19 AM
Wei Wei doesn't care about facts. If he were, he would not quote UN sources regarding Israel. It is well known that the Useless Ninnies hate Israel. This is like asking three of the Cows on The View to explain conservative ideas.

FlaGator
10-18-2010, 10:30 AM
The world has changed. Now, we cheer nations that off Americans if we disagree with those Americans politically.

You are correct. The liberals at DU seem pretty happy when U.S. soldiers in the Middle East get killed.

Arroyo_Doble
10-18-2010, 05:50 PM
Care to specify which nation is being cheered?

Israel.


You are correct. The liberals at DU seem pretty happy when U.S. soldiers in the Middle East get killed.

I have not seen it but I do not doubt you. I have seen some pretty vile stuff from the hard left.

Odysseus
10-19-2010, 10:04 AM
Israel.
What are you talking about?

I have not seen it but I do not doubt you. I have seen some pretty vile stuff from the hard left.

Here's some more. http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/
http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/126-2650_IMG.JPG

http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/117-1743_IMG.JPG

http://www.zombietime.com/anarchist_bookfair_march_18_2006/IMG_5894.JPG
Yes, you are seeing children being taught to "pin the Molotov cocktail" on a police car.

AmPat
10-19-2010, 01:17 PM
Wow, all I could think of was what a great target the sign "I Luv NY!" I bet I could put an aimed pair in each leg of the E in the word "the."

Odysseus
10-19-2010, 02:39 PM
Wow, all I could think of was what a great target the sign "I Luv NY!" I bet I could put an aimed pair in each leg of the E in the word "the."

I think that you'd put tighter shot group into the hole in the C in the word "Center." Of course, that depends on the range and the type of round that you're using. A Remington 700 chambered for .308 will give a very nice grouping at 500 meters, and depending on how well you tune the weapon, a good shot can get a hit at 700-1,000 meters, although that longer range is a tough shot, especially in a crosswind.