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Gingersnap
11-09-2010, 10:56 AM
Is bigger better? Large women gaining acceptance

By Chris Jordan, (East Brunswick, N.J.) Home News Tribune
Big is beautiful.

Just ask Gayle Stallings of Linden, a big gal and proud of it.

"I used to be the one who would hold the pocketbooks for the skinny girls at the club," said Stallings, a size 20. "That pretty much motivated me to change the way I look at size. You have to be more accepting of who you are, and you have to accept your body."

There may be a gradual shift in American culture to greater size acceptance. Celebrities such as Queen Latifah, Mo'Nique and Wendy Williams have helped make plus-sized women glamorous on TV, movies and in music. TV programs such as the FOX dating reality show More to Love and the CBS sitcom Mike & Molly portray big women in a non-judgmental way. On Broadway, the plus-sized Tracy Turnblad is the protagonist everyone roots for in Hairspray.

Williams' big shoe size (one foot is a size 11, the other a 12), has been a topic of discussion on The Wendy Williams Show.

"Growing up in Ocean Township, I didn't even know they made size 11 shoes," the statuesque entertainer said on her TV program recently. "I was always balling up my toes to fit in a size 10."

Now, Williams said, she accepts her big feet (post-bunion surgery) and her large size in general. "(Big-footed) women, unite!" she said.

In magazines, Glamour made headlines when it ran a picture of 5-foot-11, 180-pound model Lizzie Miller exposing her midsection last year. The naked, round belly caused such a sensation that the model was interviewed on NBC's Today.

On a more intimate level, Gayle and her husband, Tyrone Stallings, operate the Babs BBW (Big Beautiful Women) social club, which holds mixers and nightclub events for plus-sized women and their admirers monthly in the New Jersey-New York City area.

Tyrone Stallings founded the group in 1993.

"When I first started, people were laughing at me," he said. "How can I be the only guy who really adores plus-sized women? I couldn't see that. ... Guys who liked plus-sized women were in the closet ashamed and were embarrassed about it."

The club was the first successful African-American BBW social group in the New Jersey-New York City area, Stallings said. Babs BBW parties now drawing several hundred people to each event.

"When I formed this (club), I showed guys they didn't have to be ashamed," he said. "We said, guys who are in the closet (about liking big women), you can come, and girls, you can come to Babs and wear your sexy clothes. The bigger the better."

As America becomes more diverse, the standards of beauty are broadening and have become more diverse, too.

"For so many years, there was a certain look white men preferred and a look black men preferred, and it still goes on to this day, but with hip-hop (music) breaking down the wall between white and black and with the intermingling, your perceptions change, too," said Jeremy Miller of Metuchen, former editor of the Source magazine and owner of Down magazine, which follows Southern hip-hop culture.

Hip-hop star Sir Mix-a-lot celebrated full-figured women way back in 1992 with his hit single "Baby Got Back," and the emergence of Latin music stars like Jennifer Lopez and Shakira over the last 15 years has given the look a new dimension.

"Big girls are being more exposed through hip-hop," Miller said. "The people who put the women in the videos are not using true models, but real-life women who might be your sexy neighbor."

I think overweight women and men are becoming more accepted but not because of hip hop videos. Those women are professional, biracial dancers, not your next door neighbor and they aren't usually overweight although they tend to have bigger chests and rear ends.

Overweight women are becoming more accepted because there are so many of them. Heck, our Surgeon General is an obese woman.

USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/yourlife/your-look/2010-11-08-large-women_N.htm)

Zafod
11-09-2010, 11:12 AM
Im sorry but this is not hot.

http://www.oscarbets.co.uk/assets/images/Mo-Nique.jpg

http://cdn.theurbandaily.com/files/2009/06/monique.jpg

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/MoNique.jpg

that is just fucking gross.

Bailey
11-09-2010, 11:15 AM
Im sorry but this is not hot.

http://www.oscarbets.co.uk/assets/images/Mo-Nique.jpg

http://cdn.theurbandaily.com/files/2009/06/monique.jpg

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/MoNique.jpg

that is just fucking gross.

In the immortal words of quagmire "fat girls need love too but they have to pay"

wilbur
11-09-2010, 11:19 AM
Overweight women are becoming more accepted because there are so many of them. Heck, our Surgeon General is an obese woman.


Yep - all the overweight people are accepting each other, but I don't see any skinny good looking people moving up a weight bracket in their dating game or anything like that. If a person can get a skinny attractive mate, they still tend to prefer it.

As I get older its taking more and more work to maintain myself and I've had some periods where I lapsed a little into the slightly overweight category.. but even having a slight taste of what its like to be a little overweight, I have to say.. damn it is just uncomfortable as hell. Sitting down, walking, everything is just kind of miserable when you're carrying a little too much extra weight. That was a powerful motivator to shape up... maybe its different for other people, but I don't understand how one can let themselves become grossly obese - it makes life hell.

Gingersnap
11-09-2010, 11:30 AM
Yep - all the overweight people are accepting each other, but I don't see any skinny good looking people moving up a weight bracket in their dating game or anything like that. If a person can get a skinny attractive mate, they still tend to prefer it.

As I get older its taking more and more work to maintain myself and I've had some periods where I lapsed a little into the slightly overweight category.. but even having a slight taste of what its like to be a little overweight, I have to say.. damn it is just uncomfortable as hell. Sitting down, walking, everything is just kind of miserable when you're carrying a little too much extra weight. That was a powerful motivator to shape up... maybe its different for other people, but I don't understand how one can let themselves become grossly obese - it makes life hell.

I'm with you. It just feels bad to be a little overweight. I can only imagine what that feels like x100. Every little thing must be just torturous. Still, a lot of people don't mind it enough to do anything about it. It's a complicated problem.

noonwitch
11-09-2010, 11:44 AM
I don't know-some men find heavy women attractive. In my case, part of the reason I have some extra weight is that I'm a great cook who likes to eat what I prepare. If a man is looking for a wife or girlfriend who can cook for him, picking an aneroxic/bulemic is not really the way to go.


But I am not Monique-sized, and never have been that huge. I'm still losing weight, although it's slowing down the closer I get to my goal. I've got about a size and a half to go, and a lot of what seems to be happening now is muscle-building. But I'm not trying to be a 6. I'm 5'10". I'll be happy in a 14. I went up a cup size since I started swimming, so I doubt my shirt size will ever be smaller than a 14:).

Zafod
11-09-2010, 12:36 PM
thing is Im rocking 280 now and the last time I was 280 felt like crap.

I dont now but thats because I lift and workout.

I know plenty of guys that are really big but dont have issue because they are strong.

Zafod
11-09-2010, 12:41 PM
I am cutting right now to shed 30 lbs before my wedding in march

Big Guy
11-09-2010, 12:44 PM
thing is Im rocking 280 now and the last time I was 280 felt like crap.

I dont know but thats because I lift and workout.

I know plenty of guys that are really big but dont have issue because they are strong.

I am 320 and I have no problems. I work out but I still have a gut, over all I am in good condition and most young guns have difficulty keeping up with me. You are absolutely correct just because someone is "Over Weight" don't make them in poor condition.

Speedy
11-09-2010, 12:55 PM
My girlfriend has a sister that is quite heavy. Not Monique-sized but a weight bracket or two below her. She is a big girl. The thing is, she very beautiful facially and her body rocks. The weight is distibuted so perfectly. There are very few women who can carry extra weight this well and the ones that do always look good. She is much sexier with her ample and voluptuous curves than most skinny women.

Zafod
11-09-2010, 01:38 PM
My girlfriend has a sister that is quite heavy. Not Monique-sized but a weight bracket or two below her. She is a big girl. The thing is, she very beautiful facially and her body rocks. The weight is distibuted so perfectly. There are very few women who can carry extra weight this well and the ones that do always look good. She is much sexier with her ample and voluptuous curves than most skinny women.

I doubt that.

So she isnt Monique sized (bigger than a elephant) but a couplr of brackets lower? like a Hippo of Rhino?

Thats not sexy no matter how she carries it. Thats fat-fucking ugly.

Zafod
11-09-2010, 01:40 PM
I am 320 and I have no problems. I work out but I still have a gut, over all I am in good condition and most young guns have difficulty keeping up with me. You are absolutely correct just because someone is "Over Weight" don't make them in poor condition.

the thing is even though I am 280 I can still get on a bike and ride 10 miles in half an hour. 20 miles per hour on the road is pretty good for a 280 pound guy.

noonwitch
11-09-2010, 03:46 PM
the thing is even though I am 280 I can still get on a bike and ride 10 miles in half an hour. 20 miles per hour on the road is pretty good for a 280 pound guy.


Before I started losing weight, I couldn't even swim across the pool without stopping to catch my breath. Now I can swim for 40 minutes without stopping.

My weight problem was not just due to my eating habits, it was also due to my lack of activity. I addressed the latter, so my weight loss is slower than if I was dieting. It's a lifestyle change, so it will be more permanent than a crash diet.

Articulate_Ape
11-09-2010, 05:57 PM
I think large women can be attractive, but they have to dress in a way that is flattering rather than what I call "dream-dressing", as seen in the revolting photos posted above.

This is an example of doing it right.
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20070225/293.latifah.queen.022507.jpg

Zafod
11-09-2010, 06:47 PM
I think large women can be attractive, but they have to dress in a way that is flattering rather than what I call "dream-dressing", as seen in the revolting photos posted above.

This is an example of doing it right.
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20070225/293.latifah.queen.022507.jpg

meh, this is about as think as I want em.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/SportSyndicate/mariah_carey.jpg

fettpett
11-09-2010, 06:50 PM
no no, THIS:

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/05/christina_black_dress.jpg

is much more appealing

Big Guy
11-09-2010, 06:51 PM
This is fer Speedy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzizRrAtZOY

Big Guy
11-09-2010, 06:55 PM
How about this one speedy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeejRD2Hq-s

wilbur
11-09-2010, 07:00 PM
no no, THIS:

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/05/christina_black_dress.jpg

is much more appealing

That!

Speedy
11-09-2010, 08:19 PM
How about this one speedy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeejRD2Hq-s


My girl friend has the same proportions as this one. I see nothing wrong here.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BYF7HRooyao/SrM2UMLyl9I/AAAAAAAABnM/NezYidvQzlk/s320/lydia-fixel.jpg

Rockntractor
11-09-2010, 08:24 PM
I doubt that.

So she isnt Monique sized (bigger than a elephant) but a couplr of brackets lower? like a Hippo of Rhino?

Thats not sexy no matter how she carries it. Thats fat-fucking ugly.

Be like screwin a can of shortening!:eek:

Zafod
11-09-2010, 09:33 PM
My girl friend has the same proportions as this one. I see nothing wrong here.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BYF7HRooyao/SrM2UMLyl9I/AAAAAAAABnM/NezYidvQzlk/s320/lydia-fixel.jpg

Except you have failed to show her. I bet she is a real hippo .

djones520
11-09-2010, 10:05 PM
Shouldn't it be Ex-Girlfiend? You were the one talking about how you kicked her to the curb yesterday.

Zafod
11-09-2010, 10:11 PM
oops we seem to have a hard time keeping track of it all.....:rolleyes:

m00
11-09-2010, 11:37 PM
I am cutting right now to shed 30 lbs before my wedding in march

I'm trying to shed about that much too. What are you doing?

Zafod
11-09-2010, 11:41 PM
I'm trying to shed about that much too. What are you doing?

less than 30 grams carbs per day 300 to 350 grams protien and 90 grams or less of fat.

Zafod
11-09-2010, 11:42 PM
plus cardio and my normal training/lifting

m00
11-09-2010, 11:43 PM
I'm taking pills I researched on teh internets. We should compare notes in a month. :D Had to stop lifting because I didn't have time for lifting, working AND learning French.

Zafod
11-10-2010, 12:05 AM
well 2 days on it and I have lost 6 lbs of water weight and bloat.

pills are shit and you know it.

good luck though :D

m00
11-10-2010, 12:18 AM
well 2 days on it and I have lost 6 lbs of water weight and bloat.

pills are shit and you know it.

good luck though :D

Well my specific problem is that I get these ravenous hunger spikes at very odd times. So I eat normal lunch, dinner and then sit down and eat a pie at midnight. So I'm taking herbal pills that are supposed to block carb and sugar absorption which in turn flatten out insulin spikes. Since I started, I've had no midnight pie-desires (I have a pie sitting in the fridge that I'm going to bring into work tomorrow). And I generally feel a lot more satisfied when I eat. So it's been a few days, and I've already dropped some pounds since I have no cravings for odd binges.

Speedy
11-10-2010, 12:28 AM
Shouldn't it be Ex-Girlfiend? You were the one talking about how you kicked her to the curb yesterday.

No, its still girlfriend. We hope to find a way to make it work. Yesterday was just a bad day

m00
11-10-2010, 12:30 AM
No, its still girlfriend. We hope to find a way to make it work. Yesterday was just a bad day

Dude, seriously. Do the girlfriend a favor and let her go. Focus on your daughter. Your daughter does not need all this instability.

Zafod
11-10-2010, 08:03 AM
he has a daughter? I never knew :rolleyes:

Odysseus
11-10-2010, 09:15 AM
My girl friend has the same proportions as this one. I see nothing wrong here.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BYF7HRooyao/SrM2UMLyl9I/AAAAAAAABnM/NezYidvQzlk/s320/lydia-fixel.jpg
The operative word is "see." The question is whether your seeing-eye dog tries to warn you off. :D

I'm taking pills I researched on teh internets. We should compare notes in a month. :D Had to stop lifting because I didn't have time for lifting, working AND learning French.
Give up learning French. Everybody understands white flags.

Gingersnap
11-10-2010, 10:06 AM
How about this one speedy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeejRD2Hq-s

That woman isn't just fat, she's got something wrong with her. That kind of fat distribution just isn't normal for anybody. Sometimes people with lymph problems look like that. It's not anything to play around with - those people can get fatal infections from poor circulation. :(

Speedy
11-10-2010, 01:02 PM
he has a daughter? I never knew :rolleyes:

I've got 3. Two married (one has 3 kids) and out of the house and Deeanna who is living with me for another few years.

Zafod
11-10-2010, 01:16 PM
I've got 3. Two married (one has 3 kids) and out of the house and Deeanna who is living with me for another few years.

uh huh....:rolleyes: