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djones520
11-16-2010, 12:40 AM
n2doc (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-15-10 07:38 PM
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Homeland "security" Secretary Napolitano - "It's all about everybody recognizing their role"
Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 07:38 PM by n2doc
ADAM GOLDMAN, JOAN LOWY
Associated Press
6:07 p.m. CST, November 15, 2010



WASHINGTON (AP) Nearly a week before the Thanksgiving travel crush, federal air security officials were struggling to reassure rising numbers of fliers and airline workers outraged by new anti-terrorism screening procedures they consider invasive and harmful.

Across the country, passengers simmered over being forced to choose scans by full-body image detectors or probing pat-downs. Top federal security officials said Monday that the procedures were safe and necessary sacrifices to ward off terror attacks.

"It's all about security," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said. "It's all about everybody recognizing their role."

Despite officials' insistence that they had taken care to prepare the American flying public, the flurry of criticism from private citizens to airline pilots' groups suggested that Napolitano and other federal officials had been caught off guard.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-ap-us-airpor...

learning our place...



This is what you wanted people. YOU wanted this administration.


CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-15-10 07:41 PM
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2. And just what the fuck IS our place, Janet?
Oh, I know: peon.



Did CaliforniaPeggy just swear? :eek:


zeemike (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-15-10 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. We are the sheeple.
To be herded and fleeced and we should not bleat about it.



derby378 (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-15-10 07:41 PM
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3. My ROLE? You mean my PLACE? As a SHEEP?



Kennah (206 posts) Mon Nov-15-10 07:44 PM
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4. And if you're flying ...
... it's the TSA's role to recognize your sausage.




spin (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-15-10 07:49 PM
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7. Achtung! You must obey the TSA agents and submit ...
to the search. They have your best interests at heart.




tularetom (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-15-10 07:56 PM
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13. Tell me again why Napolitano was a good choice for this job
Appointing her as Fatherland Security Secretary led directly to the governorship of Jan Brewer and the adoption of Arizona's nifty harass Mexicans law.

Plus as far as I can tell she really hasn't done dick as secretary unless you count draconian travel restrictions.


You are just now wondering?


Tatiana (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-15-10 07:59 PM
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15. She would have better served this country as Arizona governor.
It was a mistake to make her Homeland Security secretary.

And I still hate that word "Homeland."


Arizona threw a party when she left.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9565380

And...


exboyfil (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-15-10 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #6
18. You beat me to it
Remember this is a Democrat.

It goes back to the opinion that we don't really see a difference in the two parties - we are separated by rulers and the ruled. Can't let the natives get uppity.


If you'd spend more time actually learning the conservative message instead of the DU message for conservatives, you'd know that Dems have always been like this, and Conservatives want you to be your own ruler.

Dan D. Doty
11-16-2010, 01:11 AM
Let me get this right.

DU doesn't want any security at the airport.

Of course if something did happen, DU will find some way to blame everyone but themselves ( even thou it was their stupid to do it) :rolleyes:

SarasotaRepub
11-16-2010, 06:51 AM
I don't fly much for business anymore but I did got through a full body scan in Nashville this past September. No biggie, if anything if seemed to take longer but the TSA people had just started using it that week.

Unless the rules change you go thru the scan or the pat down. Period. Don't like it? Take a train or drive. :p:D

djones520
11-16-2010, 08:45 AM
I don't know... a part of me says it's no big deal. Another part of me says that this is the point where we've given up to many civil liberties for the sake of safety.

Beefeater
11-16-2010, 01:48 PM
So in order to avoid offending a few we are now offending everyone equally.

So liberal/progressive of Big Sis.

Not only did we throw a party when she left, I contributed a bottle of Aqua Velva for her Dopp kit.

Madisonian
11-16-2010, 06:32 PM
I don't fly much for business anymore but I did got through a full body scan in Nashville this past September. No biggie, if anything if seemed to take longer but the TSA people had just started using it that week.

Unless the rules change you go thru the scan or the pat down. Period. Don't like it? Take a train or drive. :p:D

And do you really think the Feds are going to stop with the porn body scanners? When has our Federal government not turned any liberty encroachment molehill into a mountain in the last century. Hell, any government in this country for that matter.

They did not stop at putting seat belts in cars, they made you wear them.
They did not stop at smoking on planes, now it is almost impossible to light up anywhere in public. They will finish that soon enough and then go after everywhere else.
Can't but Sudafed over the counter anymore cause you might start a meth lab.
How many hundreds more do you want me to name.

So when some nutjob figures out how to stick an explosive up his ass, are you going to gleefully bend over and spread your cheeks when they demand that?

Don't think they will if it happens, think again unless we put a stop to this crap!

NJCardFan
11-16-2010, 07:11 PM
I don't know... a part of me says it's no big deal. Another part of me says that this is the point where we've given up to many civil liberties for the sake of safety.

As Franklin said, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Truer words have never been spoken.