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Carol
11-18-2010, 05:22 PM
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-18-10 02:52 PM
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How many of you are dreading Thanksgiving with RW relatives?

My cousins, on my Mom's side keep Faux News on all the time. You wouldn't believe the rants I've had to endure! And they don't realize that's why I spend so little time with them anymore!
For so many DUmmies it's all about politics over family. Thanksgiving is a week away and they are already boasting about how intolerant they are to others who believe differently than they do.
chidy (29 posts) Thu Nov-18-10 02:55 PM
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4. i'm having a relation-free holiday!

and i'm really looking forward to it. i had a big blowout with my "lifegiver" and i decided i wasn't going to subject myself to any more of her shit. it's really liberating! i may visit with some friends, or i may just spend the day eating what *i* want to eat (not turkey) and watching movies and smoking a blunt.
MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-18-10 02:58 PM
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7. Me! Me!

Just one--my crazy Church Lady Fox-Lovin' aunt. Dinner is at her house. My mother (her sister) pretty much has her trained, though--has frequently threatened her with bodily harm if she tries to talk politics, and as soon as she enters my aunt's house, she turns off the TV (which is permanently on Fox). So for the most part she behaves.

Too bad we either don't usually hang with, or are too far (geographically) from, my liberal relatives. But at any rate, I'm grateful they outnumber the wingnuts in the fam.

Mona Blue (21 posts) Thu Nov-18-10 02:58 PM
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8. I'm stuck with a bunch of white racists

Boston style Irish who hate Italians, blacks, and everyone. I usually get them all wound up by discussing progressive politics, then leave.

bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-18-10 03:06 PM
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12. Me!

I have to spend TG with my Obama-hating, gun-totin', Palin-loving, God-fearing, Bible-thumping, gay-bashing, tax-hating, regulation-overturning step-son and daughter-in-law. The rest of us are all proud libs so there will be no spirited political discussions next Thursday - it has gotten too heated in the past. My husband almost strangled his son one time when he said that the kids who were shot at Columbine should have been carrying firearms and not been such "pussies." My lovely daughter can't tell her brother she's gay because she's afraid he'll disown her.
Other than that, it should be a good time...

:eyes:

louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-18-10 03:20 PM
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17. Not Thanksgiving I'm worried about. It's Christmas.

Extended family Birther, Palin-loving, Bush-Reagan worshipping, racist crazies.

old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-18-10 03:36 PM
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21. We almost never see our really RW in-laws - They cross too many lines,

and I don't have that much self control any more.
Besides, my time is too valuable to waste with right wing bigoted half wits.

mark

MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-18-10 04:01 PM
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25. I refuse to do it

My husband and I are inviting my 85 year old Dem mom to our home for Thanksgiving. We will not - NOT - endure one more holiday with knuckle-dragging Rethugs. Life is too short to be in the company of such people.

BTW - Did I mention it will just be the three of us?

;-)

Luciferous Donating Member (802 posts) Thu Nov-18-10 04:20 PM
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29. My family is mostly comprised of Democrats, but we avoid talking

politics... we also avoid religion since my 11 year old daughter told my extremely religious grandmother that she is an atheist :)Not surprising given the nic.

Erose999 (728 posts) Thu Nov-18-10 04:36 PM
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33. Dreading the whole holiday season. My family are all fundies and the dinner conversation is all


either racist jokes, rants about how "Obama is gonna come after our guns" or talk about sports or hunting. It was better when my aunt was still around, she was a crazy fundie too but at least she played music and would have her band over so there was entertainment. Oh, and there will be prayer, and I'm an atheist. Awkward doesn't even begin to describe that feeling.

Probably gonna skip the family stuff all together and spend those days at home alone drinking or reading or watching re-runs of Bill Maher on-demand something... just to counteract all the Jesus in the air. I'd ideally like to have a "What Would Charles Bukowski Do?" day and go to a titty bar or a horse track or something, but I doubt any of those places will be open.

I isn't any wonder they are ALWAYS so miserable when politics is more important than family.

Bleda
11-18-2010, 05:29 PM
They talk like that about their families? :eek: :( For heaven's sake...

I don't even know all my family's political beliefs. We pretty much never discuss politics or religion. Conservatives, liberals, atheists, Christians - we all get along just fine.

Adam Wood
11-18-2010, 05:45 PM
Ah, yes. We're just a week away from the annual throwing of the Thanksgiving tofurkey through the plate glass window in the dining room.

Perhaps we should take bets on how many DUmmies will post 3-bouncy or better stories about how they stormed off from the Thanksgiving dinner table because they couldn't take that their fundy rethug uncle doesn't hate Christine O'Donnell or Sarah Palin.

Adam Wood
11-18-2010, 05:53 PM
They talk like that about their families? :eek: :( For heaven's sake...Every year, like clockwork. They'll do this pretty much non-stop through New Years, and then they'll usually pick it up again a little bit around the Super Bowl, and some of them will go off bitching about all of the jingoism in their families on the Fourth of July.

3rd-try
11-18-2010, 05:57 PM
I'm lucky. I don't have any LW idiots in my family. They all have jobs.

Madisonian
11-18-2010, 06:30 PM
LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-18-10 02:52 PM
Original message
How many of you are dreading Thanksgiving with RW relatives?

My cousins, on my Mom's side keep Faux News on all the time. You wouldn't believe the rants I've had to endure! And they don't realize that's why I spend so little time with them anymore!


Obviously LongTom is too dense to realize that the reason they keep Fox on is so they have to spend so little time with him!:D

These posts will soon to be followed by the "Thanksgiving is an ebul holiday since it celebrates our genocide over the Indians" threads.

Dan D. Doty
11-18-2010, 06:47 PM
" My Lifegiver" :rolleyes:

My God, Chidy, you are one f*cked indivual.

Rockntractor
11-18-2010, 06:52 PM
I'm dreading spending Thanksgiving with liberal relatives. I have a brother in law that completely lacks any form of tact, he will insist on injecting liberal politics into the conversations and I will do my best to ignore his snide comments and bring up other subjects.

SarasotaRepub
11-18-2010, 07:00 PM
You beat me to it Carol!!! This one was one my list to bring over tonight...:D

Gingersnap
11-18-2010, 07:41 PM
Way back in the day, polite people never talked sex, politics, or religion with anybody but their closest friends. Yet people still managed to talk about a zillion other things with anybody from complete strangers to their in-laws.

We need to bring that day back. :rolleyes:

Rockntractor
11-18-2010, 07:45 PM
Way back in the day, polite people never talked sex, politics, or religion with anybody but their closest friends. Yet people still managed to talk about a zillion other things with anybody from complete strangers to their in-laws.

We need to bring that day back. :rolleyes:

Seriously, why do people bring up things that they know will bring strife at a family gathering, I avoid things that cause hard feelings. There are somethings these people will really regret when their family members are gone some day.

Adam Wood
11-18-2010, 08:08 PM
Seriously, why do people bring up things that they know will bring strife at a family gathering, I avoid things that cause hard feelings. There are somethings these people will really regret when their family members are gone some day.Well, to be fair, my brothers and I all get together every Christmas night after all the family stuff and the kids have gone to bed and we get really drunk and solve all of the world's problems over a few bottles of scotch. But that's pretty amicable even with my one semi-moonbat brother. :D

AmPat
11-18-2010, 08:19 PM
How many of you are dreading Thanksgiving with RW relatives?Only the hateful, completely moronic Tofu Turkey idiots like you.:cool:

NJCardFan
11-18-2010, 08:22 PM
Holy shit. I mean, my dad and I had a falling out but I still love the guy. Not that he's a lefitst but I'd never say anything like this about him or any other family member.

Beefeater
11-19-2010, 01:17 PM
chriscraft (6 posts) Fri Nov-19-10 12:54 AM
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37. Man no kidding

All of my relatives have jobs and own their own homes and have new cars and their kids are all in good schools and they just can't conceive of anyone being downtrodden like me and the rest of us. It just pisses me off to have to listen to them gloat about their perfect little lives and their perfect little families and all that perfect little crap they always throw at me.

Do you think that they could ever help me out a little? I've tried to tell them that the drug thing is almost done with and I will get that damned GED and maybe go to art school like i said, but no, they just have to grind on me about my failures, which aren't my fault at all because i have to be who I am and they can't understand that because they're all just a bunch tea bagging fundie stick in the mud republicans who don't give a shit about me.

And they watch Faux News and NASCAR and vote for Bristol on DWTS.

Thank GOD I found DU so I have people that understand!


Nothing more need to be said.

Adam Wood
11-19-2010, 03:22 PM
...I've tried to tell them that the drug thing is almost done with and I will get that damned GED and maybe go to art school like i said....Nothing more need to be said.

LMAO!!

OK, who's mole is this? That's hilarious!

Odysseus
11-19-2010, 07:33 PM
Obviously LongTom is too dense to realize that the reason they keep Fox on is so they have to spend so little time with him!:D

These posts will soon to be followed by the "Thanksgiving is an ebul holiday since it celebrates our genocide over the Indians" threads.

Not to mention our genocide of the turkeys. The horror... the horror... :D

Okay, this is too good not to parse:


chriscraft (6 posts) Fri Nov-19-10 12:54 AM
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37. Man no kidding

All of my relatives have jobs and own their own homes and have new cars and their kids are all in good schools and they just can't conceive of anyone being downtrodden like me and the rest of us. It just pisses me off to have to listen to them gloat about their perfect little lives and their perfect little families and all that perfect little crap they always throw at me.
Translation: I am a pathetic loser who envies those who work for a living. I want their stuff, but don't want to work for it, and don't understand why it doesn't rain lollypops and nickel bags whenever I click my heels together.

Do you think that they could ever help me out a little? I've tried to tell them that the drug thing is almost done with and I will get that damned GED and maybe go to art school like i said, but no, they just have to grind on me about my failures, which aren't my fault at all because i have to be who I am and they can't understand that because they're all just a bunch tea bagging fundie stick in the mud republicans who don't give a shit about me.
Translation: And who I am is a loser who can't quit drugs ("almost" done with, who wouldn't accept that except fascists?) who can't be bothered to study for a simple test, but has time to spend on DU, chatting with other losers. They should appreciate me for being me, which means giving me stuff and subsidizing my lifestyle choices, and who are they to complain if their handouts go up my nose, or up through the bong, or into a vein or whatever my choice of life-destroying poison happens to be, it's their obligation to care for me, just like mommy and daddy did before they cut off my allowance and threw me out of the house for selling their stuff.

And they watch Faux News and NASCAR and vote for Bristol on DWTS.
Translation: While I can't watch anything because I spent the cable money for a fix, and they wouldn't hook me up! And you can't get anything on broadcast except for PBS, and they covered up Katy Perry's cleavage on Sesame Street! I want my cable!!!

Thank GOD I found DU so I have people that understand!
Translation: Whichever one of you is paid up on the cable bill can expect to put me up on the couch in between trips to the shelter, and if you don't let me in, then you're no better than my family. :mad::mad:

SarasotaRepub
11-19-2010, 07:38 PM
LMAO!!

OK, who's mole is this? That's hilarious!


That's what I thought. :D

Madisonian
11-19-2010, 07:53 PM
Tansy_Gold
3. Just me and my four dogs.

Real dogs. The woof-woof kind.

NO RELATIVES, thankyouverymuch.



TG


chidy (38 posts)
4. i'm having a relation-free holiday!

and i'm really looking forward to it. i had a big blowout with my "lifegiver" and i decided i wasn't going to subject myself to any more of her shit. it's really liberating! i may visit with some friends, or i may just spend the day eating what *i* want to eat (not turkey) and watching movies and smoking a blunt.



queenjane
15. I have much to be thankful for this year

Mainly, I am spending t-day BY MYSELF. No relatives. Taking my elderly mom to visit family out of state; she's staying for 2 weeks. Me, I'm fixing some roasted veggies and maybe a vegan pumpkin pie, calling friends who live elsewhere, and watching a movie. No religious proselytizing, no snide remarks about Obama, no screaming kids.

Yes, I am very very thankful.


MissDeeds
25. I refuse to do it

My husband and I are inviting my 85 year old Dem mom to our home for Thanksgiving. We will not - NOT - endure one more holiday with knuckle-dragging Rethugs. Life is too short to be in the company of such people.

BTW - Did I mention it will just be the three of us?



Erose999fd
33. Dreading the whole holiday season. My family are all fundies and the dinner conversation is all
either racist jokes, rants about how "Obama is gonna come after our guns" or talk about sports or hunting. It was better when my aunt was still around, she was a crazy fundie too but at least she played music and would have her band over so there was entertainment. Oh, and there will be prayer, and I'm an atheist. Awkward doesn't even begin to describe that feeling.

Probably gonna skip the family stuff all together and spend those days at home alone drinking or reading or watching re-runs of Bill Maher on-demand something... just to counteract all the Jesus in the air. I'd ideally like to have a "What Would Charles Bukowski Do?" day and go to a titty bar or a horse track or something, but I doubt any of those places will be open.

Geez, where is hobobobo and the others talking about these selfish people?
As good widdle socialists shouldn't they be inviting a homeless family over for dinner or volunteering at the local shelter or soup kitchen to prepare or serve meals?

AmPat
11-19-2010, 11:15 PM
MissDeeds
25. I refuse to do it

My husband and I are inviting my 85 year old Dem mom to our home for Thanksgiving. We will not - NOT - endure one more holiday with knuckle-dragging Rethugs. Life is too short to be in the company of such people.

BTW - Did I mention it will just be the three of us?Yes, you did mention it. What you failed to mention was the reason it is only the three of you is because nobody else can stand to be around you. I cannot ever remember a time when I referred to my parents by their political affiliation. You are a boorish, idiot.

Odysseus
11-20-2010, 02:01 AM
Yes, you did mention it. What you failed to mention was the reason it is only the three of you is because nobody else can stand to be around you. I cannot ever remember a time when I referred to my parents by their political affiliation. You are a boorish, idiot.

I wonder if the 85-year-old Dem mom has to be dragged out of the nursing home, kicking and screaming, to go with her rude, thoughtless daughter.

movie buff
11-20-2010, 09:49 AM
" Oh, and there will be prayer, and I'm an atheist. Awkward doesn't even begin to describe that feeling.

Probably gonna skip the family stuff all together and spend those days at home alone drinking or reading or watching re-runs of Bill Maher on-demand something... just to counteract all the Jesus in the air. I'd ideally like to have a "What Would Charles Bukowski Do?" day and go to a titty bar or a horse track or something, but I doubt any of those places will be open."
1. Prayer is a normal part of most families' Thanksgiving dinners. My brothers are an atheist and an agnostic respectfully, and when we are together and pray over meals, they at least stay respectfully quiet during it, valuing our company too much to avoid us simply because our religious beliefs differ from theirs.
2. Geez, what a miserable, spiteful person. He'd rather spend time alone either gambling, ogling strippers, or listening to the vicious rants of a cynical heartless jackass like Bill Maher than celebrate Thanksgiving with his own family because he disagrees with their religious beliefs. I truly pity him.


They talk like that about their families? :eek: :( For heaven's sake...

I don't even know all my family's political beliefs. We pretty much never discuss politics or religion. Conservatives, liberals, atheists, Christians - we all get along just fine.

Yes, the DUmmies talk about their own families like that. As the OP points out, a big part of the reason why the DUmmies are so miserable 99% of the time, even those who most rational observers could see as having a lot to be happy/ thankful about, is because they care a great deal more about politics than about family, friends, civility, or other things really important to most rational people's lives.
Every Thanksgiving (Or rather, the day or two after it) the DUmp is deluged with bouncies about DUmmies bravely confronting their evil, racist, fundie, neanderthal repuke relatives over the dinner table, and being viewed as heroes by the others in their stories and cheered on by their fellow DUmmies.
If the DUmmies (At least, the ones whose relatives haven't already banned them from attending Thanksgiving gatherings due to typically obnoxious behavior at previous gatherings) were honest about their interactions with relatives over Thanksgiving, it would probably look more like this:
"My mom for some reason looked really exasperated with me when I told her to make a special, completely vegan dinner for me at the last minute."
"I can't believe my brother- in- law told me to "Calm Down" after I spent the last 15 minutes passionately educating everyone on why eating turkey or any other meat is evil and we should all eat tofurkey instead."
"I don't get why everybody gave me a funny look when I said that instead of Grandpa giving the usual Christian blessing over the dinner, that we should do a Hopi Indian Chant over it."
"Then my sister for some reason seemed really mad at me when she learned that the reason why her 10- year- old daughter was crying was because I cursed her out when she told me that for a school assignment, she did her "Woman I admire most" speech on Sarah Palin, rather than a more enlightened choice like Nancy Pelosi, Ingrid Newkirk, or Margaret Sanger."

Calypso Jones
11-20-2010, 09:58 AM
that might be a really good idea...no sex, politics or religious talk with others. But then over the past 2 years its been interesting and fun to watch so called left wing family members move back to their roots being raised as a right winger. This goes for my son's In laws too who couldn't wait to vote for obama and now they're singing the blues. I generally don't bring it up, but if you do, I'm on it.

movie buff
11-20-2010, 10:17 AM
Oh, and sorry to chime in again, but a couple more points:
Although my various family members disagree on several political topics, we too observe the general rules of civility and try to not mention such topics at the table.

"Do you think that they could ever help me out a little? I've tried to tell them that the drug thing is almost done with and I will get that damned GED and maybe go to art school like i said, but no, they just have to grind on me about my failures, which aren't my fault at all because i have to be who I am and they can't understand that because they're all just a bunch tea bagging fundie stick in the mud republicans who don't give a shit about me.
And they watch Faux News and NASCAR and vote for Bristol on DWTS.
Thank GOD I found DU so I have people that understand!"
I had an observation on this that I don't think anyone else here commented on:
He says that his failures aren't his fault at all (Typical liberal sentiment, pass the blame to others). While he could for all I know have other legitimate factors preventing him from getting a GED like scheduling problems or lack of access to materials for preparing for it or whatever, I'd say having a drug addiction most definitely IS his fault, as it was his decision to get stoned in the first place, and his decision to not do more to kick the habit.
No surprise he feels he "Has people that understand" at DU; Many other DUmmies have similar selfish, self- destructive views and similarly alienate their true loved ones due to differing political or religious beliefs and plain and simple envy.

Beefeater
11-20-2010, 11:05 AM
Nothing more need to be said.

Looks like another of my personas has been shown the door for the crime of expressing my love and devotion for DU.I'm crushed.;)

Adam Wood
11-20-2010, 11:48 AM
Looks like another of my personas has been shown the door for the crime of expressing my love and devotion for DU.I'm crushed.;)
Heh! Sorry for outing you. :o

Odysseus
11-20-2010, 02:16 PM
Looks like another of my personas has been shown the door for the crime of expressing my love and devotion for DU.I'm crushed.;)

That was you? Brilliant!

Beefeater
11-20-2010, 06:34 PM
That was you? Brilliant!

Thank you, Thank you very much.

I'll be here all week

Please, tip your server.

Odysseus
11-20-2010, 09:56 PM
Thank you, Thank you very much.

I'll be here all week

Please, tip your server.

How's the fish?

What's funny about all of these DUmmy posts is that they miss the basic point of Thanksgiving, which is gratitude. Of course, it's a national holiday, and one of the basic aspects of it is giving thanks for being in America, something that these clowns do not seem to appreciate.

djones520
11-20-2010, 10:21 PM
Some best of here.


Raine (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-19-10 03:02 AM
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39. WHY even discuss politics
I'll never understand this. Isn't there someone's operation to talk about or something else concerning family that can be discussed, geeesh!

My extended family goes from very conservative to lefty liberal and we all just agree to disagree and NEVER discuss politics.



cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-19-10 03:33 AM
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42. Politics does not rule my life. I carry a good time in my pocket, and whip it out when necessary.
I love my family. They are my blood; plain and simple as they may be. Some are much smarter and way more educated than I am. Some come down way further left on the spectrum than me, and some come down way further right. We argue about who called who last, not politics. It's unspoken, but out there just the same.

We all hate the Cowboys and the Lions. There is an equal number of women/men watching the games and men/women cooking the traditional meal. My specialty is the mashed potatoes. I make the perfect combination of creamy and lumpy. That, and carving the bird. Chill out... I got that. I'm not sure whether it's my way of being at the head of the table, or showing my kin how good I am with a knife. Either way, it's fun.

My plate? Dark meat next to stuffing (Mrs. Cubbison's cooked in the bird), with gravy over both. The gravy is pureed giblets with a bullion cube and some corn starch with milk, water, garlic, minced onion, salt, pepper. Mashed potatoes with lots of pepper, butter, and a splash of gravy. Yams, with a little of the caramelized marshmallow. The cranberry sauce has to be from the can sliced into thin round slabs.

Steamed veggies from carrots to water cress.

Politics? Take that shit somewhere else. All ya gotta do at my house is hate the Cowboys and Lions for playing at home on Thanskgiving every year.



totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-20-10 04:05 PM
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46. I love my family and I keep politics out of it. They are entitled to their opinion and I am
entitled to mine. If they want to bring up any specific issues, I am happy to discuss it with them and give them my progressive perspective. But I don't let it get personal.


It's sad that out of nearly 50 posts, I could only find three that elevated family above politics.

Rockntractor
11-20-2010, 10:26 PM
Some best of here.







It's sad that out of nearly 50 posts, I could only find three that elevated family above politics.

They will be very lonely when they get old.

SarasotaRepub
11-21-2010, 09:16 AM
They will be very lonely when they get old.


And look like this...


http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00KM8Czgydf4e/x610.jpg


:D

Kay
11-21-2010, 10:07 AM
In the future, please insert a not-safe warning when you post Helen pics.
I was not prepared for that this early in the morning, and it was a little unsettling.

Adam Wood
11-21-2010, 10:48 AM
In the future, please insert a not-safe warning when you post Helen pics.
I was not prepared for that this early in the morning, and it was a little unsettling.

Here:

http://i55.tinypic.com/pgjp.jpg