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megimoo
11-18-2010, 06:34 PM
Holder Should Resign Or Be Fired, and Obama Should Apologize

Outrage is growing at the intersection of ideology and incompetence that is the jury's collapse in the trial of Ahmed Ghailani, declared acquitted in the murders of 224 innocents, including a dozen Americans.

The outrage is growing as Americans learn more and more about how utterly avoidable this outrageous miscarriage of justice was. John Podhoretz's and Jennifer Rubin's criticisms are among the most pointed and both employ the damning word "debacle" in the title, and Powerline's Scott Johnson and John Hinderaker weigh in with "The Failure Option." Eric Holder who repeatedly declared his confidence in this process should resign and the president should apologize to the nation and especially to the families of the victims whose killed now has been declared not guilty

An email from an individual very experienced in federal criminal proceedings comments:

This smells like a compromise verdict to me. On Monday you had the report that a juror asked to be excused, claiming she was the lone holdout and she feared continuing verbal assaults on her by the other jurors for refusing to agree with them.

I suspect the 11 jurors wanted to convict on all counts, and this one juror refused.

"Guess that Jurors ethnicity and Race ?"

In order to reach a verdict, the 11 jurors agreed to join her in acquitting him on all counts but one, in exchange for her agreeing to convict him on the one count -- which sounds the least serious based on its description in the indictment.

But, the potential sentence for that count is a minimum of 20 years and a maximum of life. Its up to the district judge to determine how much time he will give him, and the judge can consider all the evidence at trial, including the evidence on the acquitted counts

http://townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2010/11/18/holder_should_resign_or_be_fired,_and_obama_should _apologize/page/full/

Madisonian
11-18-2010, 06:43 PM
Holder Should Resign Or Be Fired, and Obama Should Apologize

Outrage is growing at the intersection of ideology and incompetence that is the jury's collapse in the trial of Ahmed Ghailani, declared acquitted in the murders of 224 innocents, including a dozen Americans.

The outrage is growing as Americans learn more and more about how utterly avoidable this outrageous miscarriage of justice was. John Podhoretz's and Jennifer Rubin's criticisms are among the most pointed and both employ the damning word "debacle" in the title, and Powerline's Scott Johnson and John Hinderaker weigh in with "The Failure Option." Eric Holder who repeatedly declared his confidence in this process should resign and the president should apologize to the nation and especially to the families of the victims whose killed now has been declared not guilty

An email from an individual very experienced in federal criminal proceedings comments:

This smells like a compromise verdict to me. On Monday you had the report that a juror asked to be excused, claiming she was the lone holdout and she feared continuing verbal assaults on her by the other jurors for refusing to agree with them.

I suspect the 11 jurors wanted to convict on all counts, and this one juror refused.

"Guess that Jurors ethnicity and Race ?"

In order to reach a verdict, the 11 jurors agreed to join her in acquitting him on all counts but one, in exchange for her agreeing to convict him on the one count -- which sounds the least serious based on its description in the indictment.

But, the potential sentence for that count is a minimum of 20 years and a maximum of life. Its up to the district judge to determine how much time he will give him, and the judge can consider all the evidence at trial, including the evidence on the acquitted counts

http://townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2010/11/18/holder_should_resign_or_be_fired,_and_obama_should _apologize/page/full/

We could always hope that he gets sentenced to a Federal prison in Texas with some good old boy cellmates.
He will probably not live long enough to appeal.

megimoo
11-18-2010, 09:33 PM
We could always hope that he gets sentenced to a Federal prison in Texas with some good old boy cellmates.
He will probably not live long enough to appeal.

With Holder, this justice department and this president don't count on it.These DOJ Political lawyers they recently hired have all defended the captured GITMO terrorists are all former high powered lawyers from very liberal law firms .

These same lawyers are the ones from the DOJ who will handle the appeals and have every reason to delay sentencing for as long as possible.The judge has the power to ignore the juries verdict and sentence him to life but more likely for political reasons only he will likely slap his wrist and deport him.