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Sonnabend
08-22-2008, 08:41 PM
Agreement in principle (http://www.theage.com.au/world/usiraq-deal-on-2011-pullout-20080822-40cn.html?page=-1)

Negotiators have finalised a deal which will see the complete withdrawal of US troops from Iraq by 2011, ending an eight-year occupation, the top Iraqi heading the team said today.

Under the 27-point deal all US combat troops will be withdrawn from Iraqi cities by next June, said negotiator Mohammed al-Haj Hammoud.The agreement has already been approved by US President George W Bush and now needs to be endorsed by Iraqi leaders, he added.

Baghdad and Washington had agreed to "withdraw the US troops from Iraq by end of 2011", said Mr Hammoud. "The combat troops will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 2009. Both the parties have agreed on this," he added. "The negotiators' job is done. Now it is up to the leaders."

The security pact will decide the future of US forces in Iraq once the present UN mandate, which provides the legal framework for the presence of foreign forces in Iraq, expires in December.

Mr Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki had agreed last November to formalise such an agreement by July 31.

Full-Auto
08-22-2008, 08:53 PM
Oh great, the year the world comes to an end... according to the Mayans. Who would have thought that Bush would be the one to usher this event in... even though he'll be out of office?

BUSH IS GOING TO DO IT!

megimoo
08-22-2008, 08:53 PM
Agreement in principle (http://www.theage.com.au/world/usiraq-deal-on-2011-pullout-20080822-40cn.html?page=-1)

Negotiators have finalised a deal which will see the complete withdrawal of US troops from Iraq by 2011, ending an eight-year occupation, the top Iraqi heading the team said today.

Under the 27-point deal all US combat troops will be withdrawn from Iraqi cities by next June, said negotiator Mohammed al-Haj Hammoud.The agreement has already been approved by US President George W Bush and now needs to be endorsed by Iraqi leaders, he added.

Baghdad and Washington had agreed to "withdraw the US troops from Iraq by end of 2011", said Mr Hammoud. "The combat troops will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 2009. Both the parties have agreed on this," he added. "The negotiators' job is done. Now it is up to the leaders."

The security pact will decide the future of US forces in Iraq once the present UN mandate, which provides the legal framework for the presence of foreign forces in Iraq, expires in December.

Mr Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki had agreed last November to formalise such an agreement by July 31.If Obama wins they will scream for an immediate pull out !

GenYConservative
08-22-2008, 10:49 PM
It will definitely be interesting to see what Obama does IF he wins and this deal is in place. Does he tell the Iraqi's "I don't give a damn what you agreed to." and try to pull everyone out? Or does he accept the agreement and risk the wrath of the hardcore left, whom he promised a quick withdrawal?

FlaGator
08-22-2008, 11:23 PM
The Obamites aren't going to like this. It kind of takes the wind out of their sails and gives the Obaminator one less arrow in his quiver.

Odysseus
08-23-2008, 09:19 PM
The Obamites aren't going to like this. It kind of takes the wind out of their sails and gives the Obaminator one less arrow in his quiver.

More importantly, it leaves a stable Iraq behind. In other words, "Mission Accomplished!"

AmPat
08-24-2008, 07:11 AM
I'm picturing a bunch of squirrelly DIMocRATS around a table in full blown panic wondering what to bitch about next.:cool:

marinejcksn
08-24-2008, 09:41 AM
More importantly, it leaves a stable Iraq behind. In other words, "Mission Accomplished!"

Wanna place a friendly wager that if Barry wins the Prez, the press will somehow transform this act into something he "played a significant part in accomplishing"? :p

On a side note...does this mean I might not ever have to come back to this god-forsaken country?:D HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY! Feb 2009, I'm out this bizitch and (hopefully) never coming back!!!

wait...afghanistan in the cards? :eek:

Odysseus
08-24-2008, 10:36 AM
Wanna place a friendly wager that if Barry wins the Prez, the press will somehow transform this act into something he "played a significant part in accomplishing"? :p
Oh, absolutely. Just like they claimed that Jimmy Carter helped win the Cold War with help from Mikhail Gorbachev, who apparently intended to surrender the minute that he got into office.
On a side note...does this mean I might not ever have to come back to this god-forsaken country?:D HAPPY
HAPPY JOY JOY! Feb 2009, I'm out this bizitch and (hopefully) never coming back!!!
wait...afghanistan in the cards? :eek:

Not to mention all of the other fun spots in a dangerous and unstable world. Don't think of it as another miserable tour in a third world hellhole, think of it as job security. :D

GrumpyOldLady
08-24-2008, 07:05 PM
The Obamites aren't going to like this. It kind of takes the wind out of their sails and gives the Obaminator one less arrow in his quiver.

Yep. that's what I was going to say. Obama's big thing is the immediate pullout of Iraq.
(I can hear the sucking sound now!)
With this going through, he doesn't have much to stand on.

marinejcksn
08-24-2008, 11:24 PM
Not to mention all of the other fun spots in a dangerous and unstable world. Don't think of it as another miserable tour in a third world hellhole, think of it as job security. :D

Killin' is the Marine Corps business...crazy terrorists are keeping business good.:cool:

As long as I get a little time off before I head out again on deployment...got me almost 60 leave days saved up already and another 5 months to go out here before I get a day off. Thinkin' about taking the wife someplace elegant for vacation when I get back.:D
Unsure of where to go though:p

Elspeth
08-25-2008, 06:59 AM
Wanna place a friendly wager that if Barry wins the Prez, the press will somehow transform this act into something he "played a significant part in accomplishing"? :p


If ever a bet were a sure thing. That little bastard takes credit for everything he never did.

Sonnabend
08-25-2008, 07:39 AM
Unsure of where to go thoughhttp://www.destination360.com/australia-south-pacific/australia/images/s/australia-sydney.jpg

http://www.australianexplorer.com/photographs/queensland/surfers_paradise_clubs.jpg

http://secretintentions.com.au/cart/images/dloz.jpg

marinejcksn
08-25-2008, 11:56 AM
I've had the pleasure of drinking with members of the RAR during RIMPAC, Sonnabend. Those pics were better then the guys talked about though.:D

Ya'll down under can drink, that I can attest to. The leader of the group would yell out "Aussie Aussie Aussie", followed by the crowd roaring, "Oye Oye Oye!" Man, good times.:cool:

Just might have to take this into consideration...flights from Hawaii to Australia can't be THAT expensive.:eek:

Sonnabend
08-25-2008, 12:13 PM
Uh...you DO know I can't get you a date with the lady in that pic.....??:eek:

Goldwater
08-25-2008, 12:31 PM
Uh...you DO know I can't get you a date with the lady in that pic.....??:eek:

You are a cruel cruel tease.

Odysseus
08-25-2008, 01:02 PM
I've had the pleasure of drinking with members of the RAR during RIMPAC, Sonnabend. Those pics were better then the guys talked about though.:D

Ya'll down under can drink, that I can attest to. The leader of the group would yell out "Aussie Aussie Aussie", followed by the crowd roaring, "Oye Oye Oye!" Man, good times.:cool:

Just might have to take this into consideration...flights from Hawaii to Australia can't be THAT expensive.:eek:
I've always wanted to go to Australia. We had a bunch of Aussies at Balad, working the hospital. They were a hoot. GO1 didn't sit well with them, though.

Uh...you DO know I can't get you a date with the lady in that pic.....??
Why? Is that your wife or something? :D