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enslaved1
11-21-2010, 06:30 PM
Here's the article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101121/ap_on_sc/pope_condoms_reaction)

Here's the standout line.



Sex worker Constance Makoni, from the town of Mbare in Zimbabwe, said she was pleased to hear the Pope's message. She said she uses condoms to protect herself against HIV, even though it is against her beliefs

Ok, I am not an expert on all Catholic theology, but isn't being a sex worker just as against their beliefs as using birth control?

Rockntractor
11-21-2010, 06:33 PM
Here's the article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101121/ap_on_sc/pope_condoms_reaction)

Here's the standout line.



Ok, I am not an expert on all Catholic theology, but isn't being a sex worker just as against their beliefs as using birth control?

Also if the pope is infalable when was he correct, before or after he changed his mind?:confused:

PoliCon
11-21-2010, 07:05 PM
Also if the pope is infalable when was he correct, before or after he changed his mind?:confused:

If you ask an ultramontanist - both.

wilbur
11-21-2010, 08:53 PM
Also if the pope is infalable when was he correct, before or after he changed his mind?:confused:

Dontcha know? Popes are only infallible when they decide to be. If they didnt officially declare it an infallible statement, it's not considered infallible.

wilbur
11-21-2010, 08:56 PM
But wow... the church finally admitting openly that condoms can actually lessen disease transmission, and that it might be acceptable to use them in certain circumstances - wonders never cease. Don't stop there though, ole Pope. You've got a long ways to go yet still..

Articulate_Ape
11-21-2010, 10:24 PM
Here's the article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101121/ap_on_sc/pope_condoms_reaction)

Here's the standout line.



Ok, I am not an expert on all Catholic theology, but isn't being a sex worker just as against their beliefs as using birth control?

Not if that sex worker is an alter boy apparently.

Odysseus
11-21-2010, 11:59 PM
Not if that sex worker is an alter boy apparently.

I think that under those circumstances, he's not so much a worker as an amateur.

bflavin
11-22-2010, 12:17 AM
Go read the commentary about this over at the American Papist (http://www.americanpapist.com) blog. It does a fantastic job of explaining what was actually said by the Pope.

Gingersnap
11-22-2010, 10:04 AM
Also if the pope is infalable when was he correct, before or after he changed his mind?:confused:

So far as I can tell, he didn't change his mind. Catholic doctrine forbids interfering with the possibility of conception. Two men have no potential for conception. Using a condom to delay infection isn't a moral matter in this case, it's just a public health issue between two garden-variety sinners.

Calypso Jones
11-22-2010, 10:24 AM
is this not laughable. this is media misdirection so that they can come back later and say the pope has changed his mind. Even though the pope has NOT changed his mind. The goal being to make the Pope look wishy-washy and that this head of the Catholic Church is not worth listening to. And American Catholic voters will continue to vote democrat while the media destroys first their religion and faith and then possibly jeopardize their existence.

noonwitch
11-22-2010, 10:30 AM
Here's the article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101121/ap_on_sc/pope_condoms_reaction)

Here's the standout line.



Ok, I am not an expert on all Catholic theology, but isn't being a sex worker just as against their beliefs as using birth control?



I'm not a Catholic, either, but this is what I told a very disappointed ex-boyfriend who claimed that he couldn't wear a condom because of his religion (but told me it wasn't a sin for me to use the pill because that would be between me and God):

"The church's ban on condoms is not because they are in and of themselves evil, it is because they also have a ban on premarital sex. If you are willing to break the big commandment and have sex with me, you might as well break the little one and use a condom".

He didn't get any sex from me, but managed to knock up the next girl stupid enough to give in.

Gingersnap
11-22-2010, 11:06 AM
Being a female prostitute is a sin. Preventing conception by using a condom is a sin. Being a male prostitute is a sin. Being the customer of a male or female prostitute is a sin.

For a man to wear a condom while servicing or being serviced by another man sexually is not part of the overall sin package. It's irrelevant morally.

I think that pretty much covers it.

Odysseus
11-22-2010, 02:05 PM
I think that pretty much covers it.

Literally. :D

Articulate_Ape
11-22-2010, 02:09 PM
Go read the commentary about this over at the American Papist (http://www.americanpapist.com) blog. It does a fantastic job of explaining what was actually said by the Pope.

I wonder if I'm the only one who read that as the "American Rapist" at first glance.