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John Marston
12-03-2010, 11:21 PM
Ok, since I seem to be getting some flack for admitting I voted for Obama(not complaining), it's nice to find a kindred spirit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl3ySEkdGF0

Kay
12-03-2010, 11:35 PM
And this is supposed to vindicate you?
You and Gene Simmons are both ignorants when it comes to voting.

PoliCon
12-03-2010, 11:35 PM
So you voted for him for racist reasons?

RobJohnson
12-04-2010, 12:03 AM
Ok, since I seem to be getting some flack for admitting I voted for Obama(not complaining), it's nice to find a kindred spirit.



Every American has the right to vote, but you must also live with that vote for said term.

The good thing is you used your FREEDOM to vote. To me that is more important then who you voted for.

John Marston
12-04-2010, 12:14 AM
Every American has the right to vote, but you must also live with that vote for said term.

The good thing is you used your FREEDOM to vote. To me that is more important then who you voted for.

Thank you, it's appreciated. I realize I have to live with said vote, but I know that 2012 will be here before I know it. And 2016 after that, and 2020 after that, and so on and so forth

Articulate_Ape
12-04-2010, 01:08 AM
Every American has the right to vote, but you must also live with that vote for said term.

The good thing is you used your FREEDOM to vote. To me that is more important then who you voted for.

Quoted truth and wisdom. Well said, Rob.

Constitutionally Speaking
12-04-2010, 06:58 AM
Thank you, it's appreciated. I realize I have to live with said vote, but I know that 2012 will be here before I know it. And 2016 after that, and 2020 after that, and so on and so forth

Probably a bit off topic and admittedly based on the very little I read in your introduction, but I would imagine you voted for Obama because you believed the lies the Democrats tell about Christians wanting a theocracy.

ironhorsedriver
12-04-2010, 08:25 AM
You know, you really can't help liking Gene Simmons. And at least he will come out and say he was wrong. I have seen the respect he shows for our Military, you can't fake what he shows. He's crass and overbearing, but a class act all the same.

PoliCon
12-04-2010, 08:29 AM
Probably a bit off topic and admittedly based on the very little I read in your introduction, but I would imagine you voted for Obama because you believed the lies the Democrats tell about Christians wanting a theocracy.

AH! stupid atheists. :rolleyes:

PoliCon
12-04-2010, 08:30 AM
You know, you really can't help liking Gene Simmons. And at least he will come out and say he was wrong. I have seen the respect he shows for our Military, you can't fake what he shows. He's crass and overbearing, but a class act all the same.

True - but to vote for the guy because he's black??

Kay
12-04-2010, 09:41 AM
Probably a bit off topic and admittedly based on the very little I read in your introduction, but I would imagine you voted for Obama because you believed the lies the Democrats tell about Christians wanting a theocracy.

I read his intro too, and think he voted for the party most aligned with his ideals.
He is pro-abortion, anti-"Jesus party" religion and pro-gay marriage. Enough said.



You know, you really can't help liking Gene Simmons. And at least he will come out and say he was wrong. I have seen the respect he shows for our Military, you can't fake what he shows. He's crass and overbearing, but a class act all the same.

Yeah, I like him a lot. Not just for the music, but for his bidness sense, his love of America and the military, and from watching The Family Jewels he has a very well grounded sense of family and I like the way he's raised his kids. He's someone I'd like to hang with. I was really surprised to read that he voted for Berry.

NJCardFan
12-04-2010, 10:05 AM
I'm sure there was buyers remorse over Bush as well but what people don't get that your vote for Congress and the Senate has far greater impact than who you vote for President.

Rockntractor
12-04-2010, 10:12 AM
I'm sure there was buyers remorse over Bush as well but what people don't get that your vote for Congress and the Senate has far greater impact than who you vote for President.

Not any longer, the congress is being replaced by Czars and departments and if things keep going as they are will be of little consequence. You will be seeing some of this soon with the EPA and FCC.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
12-04-2010, 10:18 AM
I'd love if we could have a true centrist President.
Obama won't move to the center as Clinton did.

For me, there are several items on the Domestic agenda I want to see:

1) Fix the economy. I don't see the big problem with going back to Clinton era tax levels for the middle class. I would keep the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy though so that they can create jobs. Really, raising taxes on the Middle Class, while lowering them for the Wealthy could create jobs. You have the employers with more money--more money to pay more workers, and you have a middle class which is being a little pressured by higher taxes to find work or, if they have a job, work harder.
2) Heighten Border Control dramatically. Scare the shit out of the human traffickers and drug cartels. This measure could also potentially create jobs.
3) Increase the number of Policemen and FBI agents and create greater communication and sharing of information and resources between the two. I'd like more coordinated efforts.
4) Debt reduction measures. I don't think the "Big Three"--Social Security, Medicare, and the Military--should be radically cut. The only areas I would support Military cuts would be in eliminating some bases. I think a review board should be set up which evaluates every one of our bases overseas and determines which are beneficial vs. the cost. Shut down those which we don't really need and either send those boys home or redeploy them to the border or Afghanistan. Create more defense contract jobs.
5) I don't feel SS or Medicare are handouts. Cut some of the fat out of SS Disability, though, as well as Medicaid. There's plenty of savings to be found in non-necessary groups--Like the fucking inefficient USPS. Rein in the EPA. Rein in the FDA. Don't get rid of them, but downsize them and make it so they only obey Congress and don't try to circumvent Congress. The FDA and EPA are good programs, so long as they obey Congress. Cut unemployment benefits--Maybe that'll provide an incentive to work. Any redudant little departments or programs--Cut. Cut NPR's funding, but I'd want to keep PBS if possible.
6) Bring NASA back to glory. We need something--some institution--which can be a symbol of national pride and achievement--NASA has historically been it. I'd like to make NASA relevant again. Launch a new Space Age. Could also create jobs.
7) Find some middle ground wherein bipartisan Healthcare reform can be found. I'd love if we have a system of Healthcare where everyone is covered, so long as it isn't socialistic in nature nor is founded on individual mandates. I believe with some thinking such could be done.

AmPat
12-04-2010, 12:27 PM
Every American has the right to vote, but you must also live with that vote for said term.

The good thing is you used your FREEDOM to vote. To me that is more important then who you voted for.
I don't totally disagree with this sentiment and in fact used to have the same, but it permits and promotes a lazy attitude toward a precious right.

That right to vote was bought at a tremendous price. That price can only be paid once per individual but has been paid hundreds of thousands of times nation wide by America's finest. I choose to value people that use this precious right wisely. By wisely, I mean after careful evaluation of the candidate and analysis of his speeches, associations, and voting records. I evaluate those against my knowledge of American history and our historical values, traditions etc. If one is too lazy to conduct this simple research, I value him more for not voting at all. A simple look what all this lazy, tingly leg voting for an image and meaningless motto has done to the country.

A simple few minutes researching and evaluating this president by his associations, voting record, and actual statements completely disqualified him from my consideration. Agonizing over a bad vote after the fact when it was so easy to make a better one is inexcusable.

AmPat
12-04-2010, 12:30 PM
True - but to vote for the guy because he's black??

There is a simple word that describes this, no explanation needed:



































RACIST! :cool:

Rockntractor
12-04-2010, 12:35 PM
I'd love if we could have a true centrist President.
Obama won't move to the center as Clinton did.


Obama would have several miles of left to drive through before he even got close to center, the whole way he would be yelling at the driver "are we there yet, are we there yet"!

RobJohnson
12-05-2010, 02:26 PM
Not any longer, the congress is being replaced by Czars and departments and if things keep going as they are will be of little consequence. You will be seeing some of this soon with the EPA and FCC.

New EPA regulations on VOC's that effect collision repair shops came from Bush & Co....start the first of the year..

RobJohnson
12-05-2010, 02:29 PM
Thank you, it's appreciated. I realize I have to live with said vote, but I know that 2012 will be here before I know it. And 2016 after that, and 2020 after that, and so on and so forth

:)

We all make mistakes, we are human.

Plus I have never seen a President win by just one vote.

I have so many friends that will complain about Bush, Clinton, or whoever, that did not even vote FOR ANYONE....

RobJohnson
12-05-2010, 02:29 PM
Quoted truth and wisdom. Well said, Rob.

Thank you.

Rockntractor
12-05-2010, 02:35 PM
New EPA regulations on VOC's that effect collision repair shops came from Bush & Co....start the first of the year..
and we will be living with the consequences of the liberal decisions he allowed for years to come, liberalism perpetrated by anyone in politics destroys our country, it doesn't matter what label you apply to yourself, the proof is in the pudding.

AmPat
12-05-2010, 09:45 PM
and we will be living with the consequences of the liberal decisions he allowed for years to come, liberalism perpetrated by anyone in politics destroys our country, it doesn't matter what label you apply to yourself, the proof is in the padding.

Permisso?;)