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megimoo
12-05-2010, 10:07 PM
Columbia Students Told Job Prospects Harmed if they Access WikiLeaks Cables


"The State Department Tells Columbia No Jobs For Columbia Graduates If They Read The WikiLeaks !...Big Brother/Sister Is Here Already !"

The university's careers service office has cautioned students against distributing the WikiLeaks cables on social media sites.

The US government's panic over the WikiLeaks revelations is extending to American campuses, with Columbia University warning students they risk future job prospects if they download any of the material.

The university's Office of Careers Services's cautionary note drew criticism from observers, who expressed alarm that the liberal bastions of academe in the US would be complicit in restrictions on access to the documents.

Disclosure of the warning came in the wake of a government ban on employees, estimated at more than two-and-a-half million people, using work computers and other communication devices to look at diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks. The federal government advised employees that, though freely available on newspaper websites as well as WikiLeaks, they officially remain classified.

WikiLeaks dominated the Sunday morning talk shows, with views ranging from fears about what is still to come to calls for the Obama administration to adopt a more muscular approach.

Much of the debate centres on the need to restrict the number of people with access to classified material while avoiding a return to pre-9/11 when the number of people with such access was much more restricted.

Columbia University confirmed to the Associated Press that the Office of Career Services had emailed students at the university's school of international and public affairs, a recruiting ground for the state department.

The office said it had received advice from an alumnus who "recommends that you do not post links to these documents nor make comments on social media sites such as Facebook or through Twitter.

Engaging in these activities would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information, which is part of most positions with the federal government."

The state department insisted no such advice had been sent out formally. Its spokesman, PJ Crowley, in an email to the Huffington Post, which had posted the Columbia University warning on its site, wrote: "This is not true. We have instructed state department employees not to access the WikiLeaks site and download posted documents using an unclassified network since these documents are still classified."

The US social security administration has joined the list of federal departments warning its employees not to browse WikiLeaks.

It says in a circular: "Despite these documents being publicly accessible over the internet, the documents remain classified and SSA employees should not access, download, or transmit them.

Individuals may be subject to applicable federal criminal statutes for unlawful access to or transmission of classified information."

The secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, back in Washington after a trip to Central Asia on which she was dogged by the WikiLeaks disclosures, attempted to laugh it off at a cultural awards ceremony.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/05/columbia-students-wikileaks-cables

Rockntractor
12-05-2010, 10:10 PM
They may have a point here.

megimoo
12-05-2010, 10:12 PM
They may have a point here.Free country???

NJCardFan
12-06-2010, 12:30 AM
They specifically mention the state department. Sensitive state department documents were leaked. Accessing that site to see those documents presents an air of a security breech.

m00
12-06-2010, 12:55 AM
This is pretty silly. It's already been leaked. You can't threaten people not to read the info. :p

Kay
12-06-2010, 01:04 AM
Pandora's Box. Once it's out there,
no way you can keep people from seeing it eventually.
Telling college kids they can't look, will just naturally make them more inclined to look.

txradioguy
12-06-2010, 06:30 AM
This is pretty silly. It's already been leaked. You can't threaten people not to read the info. :p

You can if it would potentially give them inside knowledge of either the job they are about to get or someone who would be their boss in some way.

Madisonian
12-06-2010, 07:41 AM
Ah yes, why should us plebians be aware that our government is selling us down the river to foreign countries? Its not like our tax dollars are supporting these ever increasing entanglements and things like bribes to backwater countries to support this governments fraudulent global warming claims.

Oh that's right. It IS our money. Nevermind then, it must be in our national security interests since we all know that the Zimbabwanese navy can now launch a coconut almost 30 feet.

djones520
12-06-2010, 08:18 AM
Starting to sound like DU in here...

How about this... if they are showing that they don't have the restraint to not view illegally obtained classified documents, then how can they be trusted to be the ones who are supposed to contain and safeguard that information in the future?

It's like saying you make a hobby of buying stolen watches while filling out an application to be a security guard at a jewelry store.

txradioguy
12-06-2010, 10:25 AM
Ah yes, why should us plebians be aware that our government is selling us down the river to foreign countries? Its not like our tax dollars are supporting these ever increasing entanglements and things like bribes to backwater countries to support this governments fraudulent global warming claims.

Oh that's right. It IS our money. Nevermind then, it must be in our national security interests since we all know that the Zimbabwanese navy can now launch a coconut almost 30 feet.

How about...the fact that it was...and still is classified at the very least top secret?

WTF is wrong with people when they are more upset that the Government is doing the right thing as opposed to being pissed off at the people that leaked sensitive info about their own fucking country?

:rolleyes: moron.

Rockntractor
12-06-2010, 10:30 AM
Starting to sound like DU in here...

How about this... if they are showing that they don't have the restraint to not view illegally obtained classified documents, then how can they be trusted to be the ones who are supposed to contain and safeguard that information in the future?

It's like saying you make a hobby of buying stolen watches while filling out an application to be a security guard at a jewelry store.

Don't be too surprised but I agree with you.

linda22003
12-06-2010, 10:33 AM
This is pretty silly. It's already been leaked. You can't threaten people not to read the info. :p

Actually, you can. Wikileaks has been blocked at my place of employment since the first go-round, and we are discouraged from accessing it at home.

NJCardFan
12-06-2010, 10:37 AM
Pandora's Box. Once it's out there,
no way you can keep people from seeing it eventually.
Telling college kids they can't look, will just naturally make them more inclined to look.

There are child porn sites out there as well. That doesn't mean we should go look at them.

Rockntractor
12-06-2010, 10:40 AM
Actually, you can. Wikileaks has been blocked at my place of employment since the first go-round, and we are discouraged from accessing it at home.

I have never been to the site and I'm not even curious as to hat's there.

megimoo
12-06-2010, 12:30 PM
Actually, you can. Wikileaks has been blocked at my place of employment since the first go-round, and we are discouraged from accessing it at home.Sweet cakes, we all know that you work for the government and are considered abject chattel !

txradioguy
12-06-2010, 01:15 PM
Sweet cakes, we all know that you work for the government and are considered abject chattel !

WTF are you blabbering about? Have you lost your damn mind while I was gone? Or have aliens replaced your brains with mush?

You used to be smarter than this crap.

linda22003
12-06-2010, 02:26 PM
Sweet cakes, we all know that you work for the government and are considered abject chattel !

Correction: You have always THOUGHT that I work for the government. It's one of many things you are wrong about.

linda22003
12-06-2010, 02:28 PM
WTF are you blabbering about? Have you lost your damn mind while I was gone? Or have aliens replaced your brains with mush?

You used to be smarter than this crap.

Oh, no. He never was.

Bleda
12-06-2010, 02:34 PM
You don't need to go to Wikileaks to know about the leaked material. Plenty of news outlets have everything on their web sites. Personally I'm not finding most of the leaks interesting. Some were kind of funny, others important, but most of them you really don't have any need or inclination to know. I think it's honorable in a way to refuse to read the still-classified material even though it's everywhere.

Gingersnap
12-06-2010, 02:40 PM
This directive to students makes perfect sense to me. It was aimed at students who are well on their way to making a career in the State Department. These aren't kids studying to be dancers or vets - they want to work for Uncle Sam in the diplomatic service or something closely related. The materials from Wikileaks is still classified. The fact that it's been illegally disclosed doesn't make it unclassfied. By reposting the material and commenting on it, they are showing that they are unwilling to abide by the rules that govern this kind of material.

If you cheerfully redistributed classified material as a grad student, why would anybody believe that you would hold that same type of material as confidential when you are a low-level employee?