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Odysseus
12-13-2010, 10:20 AM
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By Kim Zetter December 8, 2010
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/berkeley-resolution/

The city of Berkeley, also known as “Berzerkeley,” is considering a resolution to declare alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning a hero.

Or, as a FoxNews site puts it, “Berkeley Gives America the Middle Finger.”

According to a resolution being considered for vote, the imprisoned Army private suspected of providing WikiLeaks with its most significant U.S. releases should be released from prison and praised for his “courage in bringing truth to the American people and the people of the world.”

“If he did what he’s accused of doing, he’s a patriot and should get a medal,” Bob Meola, author of the resolution told the San Francisco Chronicle. “I think the war criminals should be the ones prosecuted, not the whistle-blowers.”

Meola is a member of the city’s Peace and Justice Commission, which advises the city council and school board on peace and social justice issues. The commission passed the resolution by a vote of 7-3. It will be up for a City Council vote on Dec. 14.

Berkeley is home to the University of California at Berkeley, famous as the launch pad for the 1960s free speech movement when students occupied Sproul Hall to protest the university’s restrictions against them organizing and fundraising for political causes at the campus entrance.

Meola, a member of the national committee for the War Resisters League, is a long-time anti-war activist. A profile of him at the WRL website describes him as a “Gandhian pacifist” with a law degree who “realized he was an anarchist when he realized his communist comrades had forgotten about Marx’s withering away of the state.”

Peace and Justice commissioner Jane Litman, abstained from voting on Meola’s resolution. “I don’t think we should call him a hero for something he hasn’t even said he’s done,” she told the Chronicle.

The Peace and Justice commissioners aren’t strangers to controversy. A 2008 resolution from the commission called for the City Council to write a letter to the Marine Corps saying their recruiters were “unwanted intruders” in the city. A mass protest broke out after the Council approved it. After six Republican U.S. senators threatened to kill federal funding for Berkeley programs in retaliation, the City Council quickly retracted the letter.

“To err is human but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council,” council member Gordon Wozniak told the Chronicle at the time.
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This isn't stupid so much as evil. The gays, feminists and other assorted leftists are celebrating the actions of someone who has undermined the war against the most homophobic, mysogynist fascists the world has ever seen, just because they hate the people who defend them.

Forget about cutting off federal funds. I propose that the congress declare Berkeley an independent nation, cut off all aid, close the borders and let them make a go of things on their own. We can even declare it an open city and allow unrestricted immigration from Yemen and other terror sponsoring states there, and let them get a taste of Sharia Law. Call the program "Burkas for Berkeley" and let them stew in their own iniquity.

Teddy Kennedy
12-13-2010, 10:32 AM
Nothing Berkeley does is surprising.

PoliCon
12-13-2010, 10:54 AM
Why doesn't some nice terrorist blow that place up?

Madisonian
12-13-2010, 10:55 AM
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Forget about cutting off federal funds. I propose that the congress declare Berkeley an independent nation, cut off all aid, close the borders and let them make a go of things on their own. We can even declare it an open city and allow unrestricted immigration from Yemen and other terror sponsoring states there, and let them get a taste of Sharia Law. Call the program "Burkas for Berkeley" and let them stew in their own iniquity.

Even better would be to trade all of California to Mexico for something of equal value, say soiled diapers?:rolleyes:

PoliCon
12-13-2010, 10:57 AM
Even better would be to trade all of California to Mexico for something of equal value, say soiled diapers?:rolleyes:

Most of california is decent. It's just the coastal area between SanFag and LA . . . .

Odysseus
12-13-2010, 12:25 PM
Even better would be to trade all of California to Mexico for something of equal value, say soiled diapers?:rolleyes:
No, California has some lovely real estate, it just has the misfortune of being under Californians. If Mexico wants California back, they can repay the Gadsden Purchase, pro-rated for one state and adjusted for inflation. It would be a win/win, since the people of California would have the choice of being governed by a corrupt, antiquated, socialist kleptocracy, or they could accept the government of Mexico. :D


Most of california is decent. It's just the coastal area between SanFag and LA . . . .
Yeah, but that's enough to drive the state. Personally, I'd love to keep San Diego, but if we gave back California, we'd lose it. Still, we'd have Washington and Oregon, so it's not like we wouldn't have west coast naval bases, and maybe the shock of seeing California cut loose would make the Pacific Northwesterners come back to their senses.

jediab
12-13-2010, 02:55 PM
Why doesn't some nice terrorist blow that place up?

Why would the terrorists want to blow up their biggest supporters?

Madisonian
12-13-2010, 02:57 PM
No, California has some lovely real estate, it just has the misfortune of being under Californians. If Mexico wants California back, they can repay the Gadsden Purchase, pro-rated for one state and adjusted for inflation. It would be a win/win, since the people of California would have the choice of being governed by a corrupt, antiquated, socialist kleptocracy, or they could accept the government of Mexico. :D


I would be happy if Mexico took California's debt and we keep the payments we send there for infrastructure, entitlements and bailing out there debt. We would still be on the positive side of the balance sheet, particularly if Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Waxman and the rest of the California crazies had to stay there as part of the deal.

AmPat
12-13-2010, 03:09 PM
I like the fact that the libertards have completely taken over the state they bankrupted. I say move all the libertards there to enjoy the fruits of their labor. They created their utopia, now live in it. Once there though, you can never return. Hotel Kaliforniastan.

As for the traitor they like so much, he should be executed for treason. Bradley can then become a poster boy for all the millions of gays clamoring to join the armed services.:rolleyes:

PoliCon
12-13-2010, 03:09 PM
Why would the terrorists want to blow up their biggest supporters?

Quite simply - because they would kill them all anyhow for their various sins against Allah.

Zathras
12-13-2010, 03:39 PM
Hey, if you guys give California back to Mexico I'm going to need a place to live....I'm house trained. :D

AmPat
12-13-2010, 04:32 PM
Hey, if you guys give California back to Mexico I'm going to need a place to live....I'm house trained. :D

Move quickly my friend. The current VRWC plans are to fence the entire state off and place mines around it. Just need a few thousand more libertards to agree to move to this liberal utopia.

Madisonian
12-13-2010, 04:35 PM
Move quickly my friend. The current VRWC plans are to fence the entire state off and place mines around it. Just need a few thousand more libertards to agree to move to this liberal utopia.

I must not have got the new VRWC memo. The last one I got was explosive charges along the fault lines and watch it slide into the ocean.
What am I supposed to do now with all that Arizona beachfront property I purchased?:(

AmPat
12-13-2010, 04:39 PM
I must not have got the new VRWC memo. The last one I got was explosive charges along the fault lines and watch it slide into the ocean.
What am I supposed to do now with all that Arizona beachfront property I purchased?:(

Stand fast. No final decisions have been made. The explosives route is always in play. Crap! Are we still in cypher mode?:mad:

Odysseus
12-13-2010, 04:43 PM
I must not have got the new VRWC memo. The last one I got was explosive charges along the fault lines and watch it slide into the ocean.
What am I supposed to do now with all that Arizona beachfront property I purchased?:(

Damn it, Lex! You jumped the gun again! Miss Teschmacher!!!! :D

Madisonian
12-13-2010, 05:02 PM
We could always go for a spin off the Rep Hank Johnson (http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/3169-rep-hank-johnson-guam-could-tip-over-and-capsize) scientific theory and if we could get enough liberals to go to California, say for free drugs, unlimited government handouts and a Prius thrown in for good measure, maybe it would just break off on its own.:p

Odysseus
12-13-2010, 06:43 PM
We could always go for a spin off the Rep Hank Johnson (http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/3169-rep-hank-johnson-guam-could-tip-over-and-capsize) scientific theory and if we could get enough liberals to go to California, say for free drugs, unlimited government handouts and a Prius thrown in for good measure, maybe it would just break off on its own.:p

Or, we could just convince the ones who are already there that they should gather on the beach and jump up and down as hard as they can to see what will happen. Anyone who has lived under Gerry Brown and puts him back into office is stupid enough to try anything.

Kay
12-13-2010, 09:11 PM
It needs to be like in Escape From LA. Fenced off and made a prison
where we just throw convicts in behind the fence and let them fend
for themselves. Call me snake.....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aatuWUTj6ic/RgLdsQKrTCI/AAAAAAAAAWk/lzLeihqsjSE/s400/z032207russell_snake.jpg

Rockntractor
12-13-2010, 09:28 PM
It needs to be like in Escape From LA. Fenced off and made a prison
where we just throw convicts in behind the fence and let them fend
for themselves. Call me snake.....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aatuWUTj6ic/RgLdsQKrTCI/AAAAAAAAAWk/lzLeihqsjSE/s400/z032207russell_snake.jpg

Put giant sticky traps on the border.

NJCardFan
12-13-2010, 11:27 PM
Why doesn't some nice terrorist blow that place up?

Isn't that where the Unibomber taught?

m00
12-13-2010, 11:29 PM
Quite simply - because they would kill them all anyhow for their various sins against Allah.

Yep, but until then they are pretty useful idiots. But yeah, if America is the Great Satan surely Hollywood is the Anti-Mohammad.

Rockntractor
12-13-2010, 11:42 PM
Yep, but until then they are pretty useful idiots. But yeah, if America is the Great Satan surely Hollywood is the Anti-Mohammad.

Let's just shorten it up to Anti-Moe.

m00
12-13-2010, 11:47 PM
Let's just shorten it up to Anti-Moe.

I like that. Anytime someone stands up for freedom of expression/religion, women's rights, or democracy... we can accuse them of being the Anti-Moe. :p

Odysseus
12-14-2010, 11:39 AM
It needs to be like in Escape From LA. Fenced off and made a prison
where we just throw convicts in behind the fence and let them fend
for themselves. Call me snake.....
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aatuWUTj6ic/RgLdsQKrTCI/AAAAAAAAAWk/lzLeihqsjSE/s400/z032207russell_snake.jpg
Snake Plisken? I thought you were dead...


Yep, but until then they are pretty useful idiots. But yeah, if America is the Great Satan surely Hollywood is the Anti-Mohammad.
That's what Hollywood doesn't get. The Islamists see them as disgustingly decadent infidels. That's not to say that they won't use them to undermine the rest of us, but when the time comes, they will take great pleasure in beheading, stoning and otherwise mutilating the George Clooney and Julia Roberts set.

I like that. Anytime someone stands up for freedom of expression/religion, women's rights, or democracy... we can accuse them of being the Anti-Moe. :p
Nah, that just gives Hollywood too much credit. They are only for freedom of expression/religion, women's rights, or democracy when it benefits them. That's why they get bent out of shape when a college has a men's wrestling team but not a women's wrestling team, but are indifferent to the Taliban throwing acid in the faces of little girls whose only crime is going to school.