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gator
12-20-2010, 06:10 PM
I decided to treat myself to a new ACOG in order to celebrate the holidays.

It is a TA-44 SR mini ACOG. It is 1.5 X. It only weighs 4.9 ounces. The eye relief is great and the reticle is bright.

I put it on an AR with a lightweight barrel and the whole rifle doesn't weigh much more than a M-1 Carbine.


http://images2b.photo.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp5337%3B%3Enu%3D325%3A%3E2%3B5%3E2%3A 9%3EWSNRCG%3D3562%3B8%3A%3B%3C2328nu0mrj

http://www.trijicon.com/parts/TA44SR-10_45.jpg

http://www.trijicon.com/parts/TA26SR_RedCircleDot1.jpg

megimoo
12-20-2010, 07:00 PM
I decided to treat myself to a new ACOG in order to celebrate the holidays.

It is a TA-44 SR mini ACOG. It is 1.5 X. It only weighs 4.9 ounces. The eye relief is great and the reticle is bright.

I put it on an AR with a lightweight barrel and the whole rifle doesn't weigh much more than a M-1 Carbine.


http://images2b.photo.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp5337%3B%3Enu%3D325%3A%3E2%3B5%3E2%3A 9%3EWSNRCG%3D3562%3B8%3A%3B%3C2328nu0mrj

http://www.trijicon.com/parts/TA44SR-10_45.jpg

http://www.trijicon.com/parts/TA26SR_RedCircleDot1.jpgHow much ?

gator
12-20-2010, 09:10 PM
How much ?

These run about $850 but I found a place where they sell them for $740 with no shipping.

It is really a nice little light weight scope.

I put it on my zombie gun. You never know.

m00
12-20-2010, 09:18 PM
These run about $850 but I found a place where they sell them for $740 with no shipping.

It is really a nice little light weight scope.

I put it on my zombie gun. You never know.

Why is this gun, more than your other guns, suited for killing zombies? :eek:

gator
12-20-2010, 09:51 PM
Why is this gun, more than your other guns, suited for killing zombies? :eek:

You ask an excellent question.

It really depends on the genre of zombies. If they are the fast moving aggressive zombies of the Dawn of the Dead type then you need a lightweight rifle where you can quickly fire at one target and move on to the next. You need to be light weight so you can carry the maximum amount of ammo.

However, if they are the slow moving Walking Dead types then probably any rifle would do.

I have to prepare for the worse, know what I mean?

megimoo
12-20-2010, 10:09 PM
You ask an excellent question.

It really depends on the genre of zombies. If they are the fast moving aggressive zombies of the Dawn of the Dead type then you need a lightweight rifle where you can quickly fire at one target and move on to the next. You need to be light weight so you can carry the maximum amount of ammo.

However, if they are the slow moving Walking Dead types then probably any rifle would do.

I have to prepare for the worse, know what I mean?Should we be expecting more zombies from Pittsburgh ?

SarasotaRepub
12-20-2010, 10:16 PM
Das Gator Wrote:



I put it on an AR with a lightweight barrel and the whole rifle doesn't weigh much more than a M-1 Carbine.




That's good, you old guys need lightweight toys...:p:D:D

You paid how much??? I hope the guys at the Manatee Gun Club don't read this.

m00
12-20-2010, 10:17 PM
You ask an excellent question.

It really depends on the genre of zombies. If they are the fast moving aggressive zombies of the Dawn of the Dead type then you need a lightweight rifle where you can quickly fire at one target and move on to the next. You need to be light weight so you can carry the maximum amount of ammo.

However, if they are the slow moving Walking Dead types then probably any rifle would do.

I have to prepare for the worse, know what I mean?

Yeah, preparing for the Zombie Apocalypse is not as straightforward as it seems. Hmm, personally I would consider a couple of factors:


Low probability weapon jamming in "all weather" conditions
Light weight/bulk of ammo
Availability of ammo, which starts becoming an issue a couple months in


Stopping power is another interesting factor. It seems tempting to pick a weapon chambered for a 5.7x28mm like a PS90 because the only way to "stop" a zombie is to put one in the brain (and their heads are pretty soft from necrosis) and you can carry a lot more 5.7x28 than 5.56x45s.

Hmm, but then it occurs to me you could have an AR five seven and have already thought of this!

Teddy Kennedy
12-20-2010, 10:45 PM
Yeah, preparing for the Zombie Apocalypse is not as straightforward as it seems. Hmm, personally I would consider a couple of factors:


Low probability weapon jamming in "all weather" conditions
Light weight/bulk of ammo
Availability of ammo, which starts becoming an issue a couple months


Stopping power is another interesting factor. It seems tempting to pick a weapon chambered for a 5.7x28mm like a PS90 because the only way to "stop" a zombie is to put one in the brain (and their heads are pretty soft from necrosis) and you can carry a lot more 5.7x28 than 5.56x45s.

Hmm, but then it occurs to me you could have an AR five seven and have already thought of this!

I got my Zombie tags just yesterday. I can only harvest 7 females, There is no liimit on the males during the season provided they way a minimum of 150lbs, after they are field dressed. Georgia big game laws are antiquated regarding zombies. It used to be thay you could harvest any of the male species, now you got to declare them and shit. Really sucks.

I use a Browning chambered in 7mm which gives me a pretty big kill zone. I know what you're thinking, it's bolt action, but face it, it's not like there out there hauling ass. Shit, I don't even use a blind anymore.
I'm thinking of taking my 30-30 off the wall for some of them.

gator
12-21-2010, 08:32 AM
Yeah, preparing for the Zombie Apocalypse is not as straightforward as it seems. Hmm, personally I would consider a couple of factors:


Low probability weapon jamming in "all weather" conditions
Light weight/bulk of ammo
Availability of ammo, which starts becoming an issue a couple months in


Stopping power is another interesting factor. It seems tempting to pick a weapon chambered for a 5.7x28mm like a PS90 because the only way to "stop" a zombie is to put one in the brain (and their heads are pretty soft from necrosis) and you can carry a lot more 5.7x28 than 5.56x45s.

Hmm, but then it occurs to me you could have an AR five seven and have already thought of this!

I have three kill zones. For distance I have my M-14s and the FAL with the M-1 Garand as a backup.

Intermediate I have my AR-15s, AK, SKS and M-1 carbines.

For close up I have my shotgun and the 9mm and .45.

After that it is my baseball bat, Vietnam era trenching tool and cardio

hoplophobe
12-21-2010, 11:30 AM
Stopping power is another interesting factor. It seems tempting to pick a weapon chambered for a 5.7x28mm like a PS90 because the only way to "stop" a zombie is to put one in the brain (and their heads are pretty soft from necrosis) and you can carry a lot more 5.7x28 than 5.56x45s.
That is great so long as you have a huge supply, 10K rounds or more, because 5.7 is not a common round. Some other calibers would be easier to get more of.
.22
30-30
30-06
308
.223 and/or (5.56)
7.62x39
9mm
40cal
357
to name just a few.

Odysseus
12-21-2010, 02:25 PM
That is great so long as you have a huge supply, 10K rounds or more, because 5.7 is not a common round. Some other calibers would be easier to get more of.
.22
30-30
30-06
308
.223 and/or (5.56)
7.62x39
9mm
40cal
357
to name just a few.
.22 will only take out a zombie at very close range and lacks both penetration and stopping power. Any of the other calibers will do nicely for head shots, but will vary in suitability based on shooting conditions and zombie types. Full auto is not recommended, since multiple body shots are less effective than well-aimed single head shots, even in a crowd or swarm, but a good riot shotgun also works well at close range.

m00
12-21-2010, 02:29 PM
.22 will only take out a zombie at very close range and lacks both penetration and stopping power. Any of the other calibers will do nicely for head shots, but will vary in suitability based on shooting conditions and zombie types. Full auto is not recommended, since multiple body shots are less effective than well-aimed single head shots, even in a crowd or swarm, but a good riot shotgun also works well at close range.

I just had a stroke of genius. If the US wants to increase recruitment to the armed forces, they should offer a Zombie School with a badge and everything.

"I'm with the Six Hundred and Sixty Six... the Zombie Killers"

djones520
12-21-2010, 02:31 PM
I just had a stroke of genius. If the US wants to increase recruitment to the armed forces, they should offer a Zombie School with a badge and everything.

"I'm with the Six Hundred and Sixty Six... the Zombie Killers"

I would totally be considering the Blue to Green program if that was the case.

malloc
12-21-2010, 03:03 PM
I was thinking about getting one of those nice, expensive ACOGs with the 4x 5.56 sight, and a top mounted 4 MOA reflex sight for up close work. Then I found out the ACOG would cost almost as much as the rilfe I plan on mounting it on. So my friend and I came up with this solution, kind of a poor man's ACOG/reflex combo.

Burris AR-332 Prism Sight - 3x-32mm Tube Tactical Red Dot Sight (http://www.opticsplanet.net/burris-ar-332-3x-32mm-prism-red-dot-sight.html)
http://images1.opticsplanet.com/180-180-ffffff/opplanet-burris-ar-332-3x-32mm-prism-red-dot-sight.jpg

See the MIL-STD-1913 rail? That's where this goes:

Burris FastFire Red-Dot Reflex Sight ( 4 MOA Dot Reticle) (http://www.opticsplanet.net/burris-fastfire-w-picatinny-mount-4-moa-dot-mat-fastfire-sight.html)
http://images1.opticsplanet.com/180-180-ffffff/opplanet-burris-fastfire-w-picatinny-mount-4-moa-dot-mat-fastfire-sight.png

For the zombie apocalypse, www.onlybatteries.com (http://www.onlybatteries.com/cat_featured_items.asp?cat1=79&cat=2&id=599&uid=1972) offers rechargeable CR 2032 batteries which power both of these optics, as well as the chargers to go with them.

I'm not even going to pretend that this gear is of as high a quality as the ACOG, but I've heard good things about these optics. Just make sure you get the waterproof FastFire, not the cheap one, and you've got an magnified sight with a top mounted reflex sight for $528 shipped.

This is going on my main zombie rifle, a Robinson Arms XCR-L Standard. This is a good zombie apocalypse rifle because it's reliable, extremely sturdy, and chambers 5.56 (.223 Rem), 7.62x39, 6.8 Remington SPC, with a 6.5 mm Grendel conversion kit coming soon. All that is needed to chamber different ammunition is a kit which consists of a bolt face, a barrel, and magazines fitted for that chamber. The kit takes about 2 minutes to install if the rifle isn't hot.

For the fast/rage type zombies, I'd probably prefer to use my PS90-TR/EO Tech combination, but there are some drawbacks. 5.7x28mm Ammo is fairly scarce, and there's no real fast way to pull of a combat or tactical reload while maintaining fire control. I can combat reload an AR style rifle, like the XCR in the blink of an eye, and can tactically reload it without my hands leaving the grip and without looking down at the rifle. The PS90 just isn't that simple with the way the log magazines are ejected and oriented.

Now I'd just like some sort of detachable box magazine system for my Mossberg shotgun, and I'd be happy. During the zombie apocalypse a man's gotta eat, and squirrel might be as good as any food you'll find. I stockpile .22 LR ammo for use in a Henry Survival Rifle (AR-7), but I'm thinking about getting a scoped 10/22 as well.

hoplophobe
12-21-2010, 03:13 PM
.22 will only take out a zombie at very close range and lacks both penetration and stopping power
I think the availability and portability of the caliber and the lower noise profile when shooting make it a solid choice. Granted if the "zeds" are the running kind (28 days later, Zombie World) it is not as good a choice as a larger caliber would be but if the "zeds" are the slow moving ones (Diary of the Dead) a .22 should work well for close up shots.

M21
12-21-2010, 03:47 PM
Merry Christmas Gator. Nice present to yourself.

gator
12-21-2010, 06:35 PM
I was thinking about getting one of those nice, expensive ACOGs with the 4x 5.56 sight, and a top mounted 4 MOA reflex sight for up close work. Then I found out the ACOG would cost almost as much as the rilfe I plan on mounting it on. So my friend and I came up with this solution, kind of a poor man's ACOG/reflex combo.

Burris AR-332 Prism Sight - 3x-32mm Tube Tactical Red Dot Sight (http://www.opticsplanet.net/burris-ar-332-3x-32mm-prism-red-dot-sight.html)
http://images1.opticsplanet.com/180-180-ffffff/opplanet-burris-ar-332-3x-32mm-prism-red-dot-sight.jpg



I bought one of these Burris AR 332 a couple of months ago. I put it on an extra parts AR.

They are nice little scopes. They are not an ACOG but they do fine.

Good field of view. Nice reticle. Fairly lightweight. Fit and finish OK.

I don't think I would take one to war but messing around at the range is fine. It will probably work OK in the coming zombie apocalypse.

If you are on a budget go for it.

gator
12-21-2010, 06:41 PM
Merry Christmas Gator. Nice present to yourself.

My real present this year is my son coming home from the Army. He is on his way home from Ft Bliss right now.

I put together this AR for him. It is just like his service M-4. I had his regimental crest engraved on it.

http://images2b.photo.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp53375%3Enu%3D325%3A%3E2%3B5%3E2%3A9% 3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B777%3C963328nu0mrj

http://images2b.photo.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp53384%3Enu%3D325%3A%3E2%3B5%3E2%3A9% 3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B777%3C965328nu0mrj

megimoo
12-21-2010, 06:58 PM
I have three kill zones. For distance I have my M-14s and the FAL with the M-1 Garand as a backup.

Intermediate I have my AR-15s, AK, SKS and M-1 carbines.

For close up I have my shotgun and the 9mm and .45.

After that it is my baseball bat, Vietnam era trenching tool and cardioAnd a new pair on Nike's !

Madisonian
12-21-2010, 07:28 PM
.22 will only take out a zombie at very close range and lacks both penetration and stopping power. Any of the other calibers will do nicely for head shots, but will vary in suitability based on shooting conditions and zombie types. Full auto is not recommended, since multiple body shots are less effective than well-aimed single head shots, even in a crowd or swarm, but a good riot shotgun also works well at close range.

Unfortunately the public range closest to my house no longer allows human silhouette targets on the rifle or pistol ranges. Years ago at the same range I got some strange looks using a human silhouette to sight in my 308 at 150 yards and plinking with the SKS aiming for center mass and head shots.
I guess it is not politically correct to use a black silhouette on a light background anymore. I should ask if I can use a white one on a black background and tell them I am sighting in for glowing zombies at night.:D

Kay
12-21-2010, 08:29 PM
http://images2b.photo.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp53384%3Enu%3D325%3A%3E2%3B5%3E2%3A9% 3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B777%3C965328nu0mrj

Very nice Gator!
I'm sure your son will love this. :)

M21
12-21-2010, 09:24 PM
My real present this year is my son coming home from the Army. He is on his way home from Ft Bliss right now.

I put together this AR for him. It is just like his service M-4. I had his regimental crest engraved on it.



Very nice. I hope they all come home sooner rather than later. Today we were talking about the memorable moments in our lives when our Fathers gave us a rifle. Something you don't forget. Kinda like getting your first pocket knife.

Odysseus
12-21-2010, 10:27 PM
I just had a stroke of genius. If the US wants to increase recruitment to the armed forces, they should offer a Zombie School with a badge and everything.

"I'm with the Six Hundred and Sixty Six... the Zombie Killers"
This administration is more likely to invite zombies to serve openly, since they have been oppressed for so long. And it's an open secret that zombies vote Democratic, especially in Chicago, where the Undead American vote has been a critical constituency since the 1960 presidential election.