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SarasotaRepub
01-02-2011, 07:33 PM
:D It's a Poll by kentuck... (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x105510)





kentuck (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-02-11 01:59 PM
Original message Poll question: What do you think is the best way to jumpstart our economy?


Guess!!! :D

m00
01-02-2011, 08:24 PM
8. Make it illegal to send jobs overseas when the unemployment rate is over 6%


LOL!

How would this work exactly, comrade?

FDK
01-02-2011, 08:29 PM
Typical DUmmie answer: Spend more money we don't have and cripple the dollar.

Beefeater
01-02-2011, 08:34 PM
LEGALIZE POT!! It always solves everything for a DUmmy.

Madisonian
01-02-2011, 08:55 PM
LEGALIZE POT!! It always solves everything for a DUmmy.

It may not solve everything for them, but at least they can't remember what needed to be fixed in the first place.:D

m00
01-02-2011, 08:56 PM
It may not solve everything for them, but at least they can't remember what needed to be fixed in the first place.:D

I wonder, if they legalized pots what would happen to people doing time on a pot conviction?

Madisonian
01-02-2011, 09:09 PM
I wonder, if they legalized pots what would happen to people doing time on a pot conviction?

Since the American Medical Association will never allow the feds to decriminalize pot (hell who needs Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft and the other anti-depressants and mood stabilizers if smoking a doobie does the same thing without the need for a doctor or a prescription), the feds will probably re-indict as a federal violation.

Makes me wonder if old George Washington or Thomas Jefferson toked up a bit on what they were growing and if so, what would they think about marijuana laws?

swirling_vortex
01-02-2011, 11:58 PM
LEGALIZE POT!! It always solves everything for a DUmmy.
You forgot the taxation part of it. Legalization is no good unless the government gets high off it too. :)

NJCardFan
01-03-2011, 02:05 AM
Since the American Medical Association will never allow the feds to decriminalize pot (hell who needs Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft and the other anti-depressants and mood stabilizers if smoking a doobie does the same thing without the need for a doctor or a prescription), the feds will probably re-indict as a federal violation.

Makes me wonder if old George Washington or Thomas Jefferson toked up a bit on what they were growing and if so, what would they think about marijuana laws?

What do you think was in the peace pipes.

noonwitch
01-03-2011, 01:22 PM
I wonder, if they legalized pots what would happen to people doing time on a pot conviction?



Most aren't "doing time", most people convicted of possession of small amounts of marijuana are on probation. The state will be spared the cost of weekly drug screens and electronic tethers, and some drug testing laboratories and companies that sell electronic tethers will suffer declines in contracts and sales to local governments, so they will have to focuse their advertising on paranoid parents of surly teenagers.

Wei Wu Wei
01-03-2011, 04:11 PM
Massive tax increases on corporations with massive offsetting tax credits if they hire domestically. This way, if they choose to outsource their jobs we get more tax revenue and if they choose the lower taxes and hire domestically we have more working people here.

Also massive infrastructure development. Yes it's costly and yes these jobs are only temporarry but they pump tons of money into the hands of working class people who spend the greatest percentage of their income, and the gained improvements will pay for themselves down the line as most smart investments do.

And legalize weed, yes, obviously. We pump so much money to protect the jobs of DEA marijuana task forces and drug procesuters, and into police enforcement and into correctional facilities (even if the marijuana charges are dropped, the arrests and processing are very costly). Not to mention it's just stupid, it's wrong, and it doesn't work. Oh and how about how keeping weed illegal is pumping about $10 Billion a year into Mexican Drug Cartels.

AmPat
01-03-2011, 04:30 PM
kentuck (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-02-11 01:59 PM
Original message Poll question: What do you think is the best way to jumpstart our economy?Vote out all DIMoRATS and RINOs. Replace them with Conservatives.

Dan D. Doty
01-03-2011, 06:20 PM
Massive tax increases on corporations with massive offsetting tax credits if they hire domestically. This way, if they choose to outsource their jobs we get more tax revenue and if they choose the lower taxes and hire domestically we have more working people here.

Also massive infrastructure development. Yes it's costly and yes these jobs are only temporarry but they pump tons of money into the hands of working class people who spend the greatest percentage of their income, and the gained improvements will pay for themselves down the line as most smart investments do.

And legalize weed, yes, obviously. We pump so much money to protect the jobs of DEA marijuana task forces and drug procesuters, and into police enforcement and into correctional facilities (even if the marijuana charges are dropped, the arrests and processing are very costly). Not to mention it's just stupid, it's wrong, and it doesn't work. Oh and how about how keeping weed illegal is pumping about $10 Billion a year into Mexican Drug Cartels.

Two words Wei ... Atlas ... Shrugged ...

Wei Wu Wei
01-03-2011, 07:50 PM
Two words Wei ... Atlas ... Shrugged ...

lmao

please, don't get me started on ayn rand. particularly this book ahahahha


here let's just do this in cartoon form:

http://www.angryflower.com/atlass.gif

Wei Wu Wei
01-03-2011, 07:53 PM
Two words:

Aristotle sucked.


she based her entire system on a philosopher who lived in, and happily supported, a slave society. hmmm......

Rockntractor
01-03-2011, 07:53 PM
lmao

please, don't get me started on ayn rand. particularly this book ahahahha


here let's just do this in cartoon form:

http://www.angryflower.com/atlass.gif

Invoking Ayn Rand is like holy water to Libertarians, be gone thou Marxist!

Wei Wu Wei
01-03-2011, 07:56 PM
Invoking Ayn Rand is like holy water to Libertarians, be gone thou Marxist!

;)
Aristotle used the same line of logic that Marx used, but Aristotle lacked the ability to think of all humans as equal (because Greek society was entirely supported by slave labor). Aristotle could have come to the same conclusion as Marx did, and came awfully close, if only they had the liberal notions of equality that Ayn Rand happily does without.

NJCardFan
01-03-2011, 09:03 PM
OK. We'll bring all of those jobs back to the U.S. No problem. I sure hope you like paying more for goods you get for cheap because these companies are going to have to make up for the "living" wages they're going to have to pay.

Dan D. Doty
01-03-2011, 11:05 PM
;)
Aristotle used the same line of logic that Marx used, but Aristotle lacked the ability to think of all humans as equal (because Greek society was entirely supported by slave labor). Aristotle could have come to the same conclusion as Marx did, and came awfully close, if only they had the liberal notions of equality that Ayn Rand happily does without.

But Ayn Rand had something neither Aristotle , nor Marx had; Individualism.

Yes, that dread thing hated by the agents of Collectivism. The idea that everyone owns their own life, and have a respect for the rights of others. The many have no right to the lives of the few, nor do have the right to steal from them their labors, their time, or their creations. Just because a man invents a better mouse trap, you don't have the right to that from him, or the money he garnish from his invention.

But too many social parasites will scream " He's a cheat, he stole money from others, lets punish him for things others don't have." This is how societies and nations destroy themselves and their people.

Karl Marx was a trust-fund baby that had no idea what it even meant to be a worker, much less how he and people like him should run their lives.

Wei Wu Wei
01-04-2011, 12:23 PM
But Ayn Rand had something neither Aristotle , nor Marx had; Individualism.

not quite


Yes, that dread thing hated by the agents of Collectivism.

Collectivism is a glenn beck straw man. There's a difference between Collectivism and Community. One supports the group at the expense of the individual. The other strenghtens the builds on the individual through the bonds and relationships with other individuals within the group.


The idea that everyone owns their own life, and have a respect for the rights of others. The many have no right to the lives of the few, nor do have the right to steal from them their labors, their time, or their creations.

I absolutely agree.


Just because a man invents a better mouse trap, you don't have the right to that from him, or the money he garnish from his invention.

But too many social parasites will scream " He's a cheat, he stole money from others, lets punish him for things others don't have." This is how societies and nations destroy themselves and their people.

There's a difference between inventing a new thing through your own labor, and becoming wealthy off of the surplus-value created by other laborers. A Big Difference.




Karl Marx was a trust-fund baby that had no idea what it even meant to be a worker, much less how he and people like him should run their lives.

Have you read Marx?

AmPat
01-04-2011, 02:26 PM
Collectivism is a glenn beck straw man. There's a difference between Collectivism and Community. One supports the group at the expense of the individual. The other strenghtens the builds on the individual through the bonds and relationships with other individuals within the group. Don't you ever tire of shoveling this crap? Nobody with a brain believes this crap, shovel your manure elsewhere.
As for Glenn Beck's strawman, he wasn't born when that straw man was breaking the backs of theRussian Workers..:rolleyes: