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SarasotaRepub
01-06-2011, 09:30 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x125572)




kentuck (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 09:38 AM
Original message I am a Progressive.

I am not a Moderate. I am not a Conservative. I believe in open debate and free speech. I don't expect any place to believe exactly as I do. I don't think I would want to be at a place like that? (AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!)

I think I am a very tolerant person. At least, I try to be. I have grown more tolerant as I get older. (Translation: I'm bucking for Top DUmmie of 2011!!)

I do believe in progressive values. I believe workers should share in their own productivity. I believe in healthcare for all. I believe in a progressive tax system. I believe in equal rights for all.

Also, I believe that equal justice has to be the cornerstone for any government. I do not believe anyone, President or anyone else, is above the law. I believe the military defense industry is more of a threat than a protector of our nation.

I believe the "global economy" is a way to destroy the standard of living in this country so corporations and multinationals can make a fortune off the cheap labor in developing countries. I do not believe any of these exploiters should have advantage of our tax system, as they do now.

I do believe in sharing the wealth because I believe that labor creates all wealth. Because wealth is power, I believe the Democratic Party has to use the tax system to level the playing field.

I believe that all work is honorable and that all work should provide a means for survival. I believe that government is good and that it (we) should provide for those that are not able to take care of themselves, including the many homeless in this country. I think it is a disgrace that we allow people to make huge profits off the illnesses of others.

I believe both political Parties have become enslaved to the corporate dollars that fund their campaigns and that most of them look at public service as a career. Also, I believe they are overpaid for the positions they hold. I do not believe they should expect to be paid the same as some in the so-called "private sector".

I believe that thoughts create words and that words create emotions. I believe that emotions can create actions and actions can create deeds. I believe strongly in the power of words.

I believe that I am my Brother's Keeper. What we do to the least of these, we do to ourselves.

Contrary to the conventional wisdom, I believe most of the people in this country are progressive in their thoughts. They do not believe that greed is good. They believe in helping their neighbors. They believe in fairness. Those are basic tenets of the progressive values which I share with them. They are not bad people. They are ignorant people that have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the powerful media propagandists in this country.

Finally, I should say, that I believe the only way to save this country from the depths we have sunk is by progressive ideas. I believe those ideas are worth fighting for.




JHC!!!! :D:D

Rockntractor
01-06-2011, 09:32 PM
I could use a couple loads of that on my garden before spring!

NJCardFan
01-06-2011, 11:36 PM
Progressive? This person is a down right socialist:


I do believe in progressive values. I believe workers should share in their own productivity.
Um, they do. It's called a paycheck and benefits and in some places, stock options. If someone doesn't like the amount of money they're making, quit and go work somewhere else.

I believe in healthcare for all.
Uh huh. As long as someone else pays for it.

I believe in a progressive tax system. I believe in equal rights for all
The irony of these 2 statement makes one's head spin. You believe in a progressive tax system where those who achieve are penalized by having what they've earned taken from them and given to people who did nothing to earn that wealth. That's not equal rights. That's selective punishment. I take it you didn't think to hard before posting this.

I believe the "global economy" is a way to destroy the standard of living in this country so corporations and multinationals can make a fortune off the cheap labor in developing countries. I do not believe any of these exploiters should have advantage of our tax system, as they do now.
*sigh* Frankly, I don't have time to explain this to this idiot. But speaking plainly, this cheap labor you speak of allows you as the consumer to purchase goods at a relatively low price while allowing those workers in those countries to live a life a hell of a lot better than they would have had that company not set up shop there.

I do believe in sharing the wealth because I believe that labor creates all wealth. Because wealth is power, I believe the Democratic Party has to use the tax system to level the playing field.
Once again, your statement about equal rights is called into question here. Without wealthy people here to start companies and such, this labor you speak of would be non-existent.

I believe that all work is honorable and that all work should provide a means for survival.
So what you're saying is that a person who's only job skill is flipping a burger on a grill should be paid the same amount at as a brain surgeon? The stupid is strong with this one.

I believe that government is good and that it (we) should provide for those that are not able to take care of themselves, including the many homeless in this country
And what about those who are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves but choose not to because they're having a great time sucking the government teat?

I think it is a disgrace that we allow people to make huge profits off the illnesses of others
Yeah because we all know that cures for diseases and other maladies are done by witch doctors in some jungle on the Amazon.:rolleyes:

I believe both political Parties have become enslaved to the corporate dollars that fund their campaigns and that most of them look at public service as a career. Also, I believe they are overpaid for the positions they hold. I do not believe they should expect to be paid the same as some in the so-called "private sector".
Wait a minute. Didn't you, just a moment ago say that gubment is good? Also, again, this kind of shits on your "equal rights for all" thingy.

I believe strongly in the power of words.
Good. Then shut the hell up!

I believe most of the people in this country are progressive in their thoughts.
And you'd be wrong. Typical of the small minded thinking of progressives and liberals.

They believe in helping their neighbors.
This is the only thing you said that is halfway correct, but not in the way you think. People do believe in helping their neighbors. What they don't believe in is having the government swooping down and forcing them into helping their neighbors.

They believe in fairness.
Awww. Grow the fuck up. The oldest line I've ever heard is that life isn't fair. Also, is forced fairness actually fair?

They are ignorant people that have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the powerful media propagandists in this country.
:rolleyes: There we go again. "People who don't believe what I believe are just too stupid." Typical liberal mantra.

Wow, this person is off the deep end. Tell you what Kentuck, Cuba is only a few miles off the coast of Florida. Knock yourself out. Because unlike you, I believe that most people just want to live their lives in a way that they see fit without genius' like you telling them how you should live that life. Most people believe in doing well with the opportunities given you. People believe in self reliance. An honest days work for an honest days pay. If the only job you can find is flipping burgers, then be the best burger flipper you can be. If you're a lazy slug then expect to be treated as a lazy slug. The early bird gets the worm, not the bird who just lays in the nest all day.

Novaheart
01-07-2011, 01:05 AM
Uh huh. As long as someone else pays for it.



Which proponent of single payer has said that it should or would be free? None. What we have said is that we're already paying too much for what we're getting, and that our premiums should be paid into a single payer nonprofit system.

Dan D. Doty
01-07-2011, 01:06 AM
" Free speech and open debate " ??????? :eek:

DU doesn't want any of that!!!

" I don't expect any place to believe exactly like I do " "places " don't believe anything; only people have beliefs.

" I don't think I would want to be at a place like that? " So instead, you go to a place just like that. :rolleyes:

" I think I am a very tolerant person." Kinda missed the mark on that cowboy ( by about a few light years).

" At least, I try to be." You got the least part right.

Lets boil this down to the bare bones, shall we.

Kentuck likes it when the Government sticks a gun in people's faces and takes their stuff.

Well Kentuck ... f*ck you, the horse you rode in on and the bastard that saddled for you.

Constitutionally Speaking
01-07-2011, 05:54 AM
Which proponent of single payer has said that it should or would be free? None. What we have said is that we're already paying too much for what we're getting, and that our premiums should be paid into a single payer nonprofit system.


Someone else paying for it is the ONLY thing single payer accomplishes. It is paid out of tax dollars - INCOME tax dollars & other tax dollars that a large percentage of people do not pay.

49% of our people do not pay income tax - a HUGE majority of people do not pay corporate taxes or capital gains taxes (except occasionally when they sell their home for a profit).

You are right in that it is not free, (that is not what NJCardfan said) but it IS free to many who would be covered - and the Democrats and MOST proponents are MORE than happy to imply or at least allow that idea to survive.

FDK
01-07-2011, 07:45 AM
Contrary to the conventional wisdom, I believe most of the people in this country are progressive in their thoughts. They do not believe that greed is good.

What a crock. Your whole f'n post is about GREED. You want the government to take and redistribute what others have earned. If that's not greed then I don't know what is.

movie buff
01-07-2011, 07:57 AM
This genius starts his rant by saying that "" I think I am a very tolerant person.", then ends it by saying that everyone who disagrees with him is an ignorant moron. Hypocrisy, the sign of a true liberal.

Molon Labe
01-07-2011, 09:00 AM
Progressive? This person is a down right socialist:

Progressive = Code for Socialist :cool:

PoliCon
01-07-2011, 09:04 AM
Progressive = Code for Socialist :cool:

no actually - progressive = code for fascist.

Adam Wood
01-07-2011, 11:10 AM
What a crock. Your whole f'n post is about GREED. You want the government to take and redistribute what others have earned. If that's not greed then I don't know what is.

Can I get an AMEN?!

The entirety of Leftist ideology is based in envy. Nothing more, nothing less.

noonwitch
01-07-2011, 11:26 AM
I never liked the term progressive, and have always used liberal to describe my politics.

NJCardFan
01-07-2011, 02:52 PM
Which proponent of single payer has said that it should or would be free? None. What we have said is that we're already paying too much for what we're getting, and that our premiums should be paid into a single payer nonprofit system.

Were you born stupid or did you work at it? Because the position of these people is for the GOVERNMENT to seize wealth from one person in order to take care of another. This means healthcare. Why do you think they always bring up medicaid and medicare?

NJCardFan
01-07-2011, 02:54 PM
This genius starts his rant by saying that "" I think I am a very tolerant person.", then ends it by saying that everyone who disagrees with him is an ignorant moron. Hypocrisy, the sign of a true liberal.

I made that clear by pointing out their constant call for fairness and equal rights but in the same breath advocating the infringement on someone else's rights.

ABC in Georgia
01-07-2011, 10:07 PM
Oh Mercy ... Just love your red fonted inserted comments Sarasota!

Keeps me still reading Best/Worst forum in here.

~ ABC

SarasotaRepub
01-07-2011, 10:08 PM
Oh Mercy ... Just love your red fonted inserted comments Sarasota!

Keeps me still reading in Best/Worst forum in here.

~ ABC

Hey ABC, long time no see!! Welcome back. :D

ABC in Georgia
01-07-2011, 10:14 PM
Thanks!

Always read, just don't post anymore. See you are back in Sarasota again. Wish I were ... instead of freezing my buns off up here in North East Georgia!

SarasotaRepub
01-07-2011, 10:24 PM
Thanks!

Always read, just don't post anymore. See you are back in Sarasota again. Wish I were ... instead of freezing my buns off up here in North East Georgia!

LOL!! Well it was only in the low 60's here today...:D