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Gingersnap
01-07-2011, 01:40 PM
Fattest man is Suing The NHS for 'Letting me Grow'

By EMMA MORTON
Health and Science Editor

Published: Today

MAN mountain Paul Mason plans to SUE the NHS - claiming they ignored his plight as he rocketed towards 70 stone.

Paul - once the world's fattest man - vowed to use any compo to help other patients who need weight-loss ops.

The 50-year-old, of Ipswich, said he begged his local NHS trust for help at 30st.

But the medic he consulted in 1996 told him: "Ride your bike more."

When the former postman hit 64st he asked to see an eating disorders specialist, but was sent to a dietician.

He had life-saving gastric surgery last year and is now a relatively slim 37st.

Paul said: "I want to set a precedent so no one else has to get to the same size - and to put something back into society."

We revealed this month how his weight had made him feel so guilty he tried to kill himself THREE times.

He took an overdose of powerful pain killers because of his huge body mass they failed to do any harm. He later slashed his wrists after having an earlier gastric band op cancelled.

Five more years passed before he was given the chance to have the operation.

But in that time he was housebound and could not even go to the funeral of his mum Janet last year.

I saw a special on this guy and at the time I wondered how he even got the food. Is he alleging that his 'carers' fed him too much or that he wouldn't have weighed so much if he's had a gastric bypass?

Either way, it seems as though he might have sued them if they'd interfered with his weight before he was ready to make changes himself. It seems like a Catch-22 situation.

The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3334976/Fattest-man-Paul-Mason-sues-the-NHS-for-allegedly-letting-him-grow.html)

noonwitch
01-07-2011, 01:59 PM
That's like suing your doctor because you got lung cancer from smoking.

"Ride your bike more" is good advice. He should have taken it.

I'm glad that he got the gastric bypass and is losing weight, for his sake, but he shouldn't be suing NHS. Those photos at the site are enough to make me bulemic.

Novaheart
01-07-2011, 02:40 PM
As a society we have yet to treat weight issues like health issues. We treat it like behavior issues, and it does have to do with behavior, but it's behavior driven by biology. Lots of people make all kinds of judgements about fat people, I guess because it makes them feel better about themselves, but someone who has battled obesity all his life is not the same as someone who doesn't have to consciously regulate his caloric intake or someone who plays with five or ten aging pounds.

Gastric bypass and lapband surgery are not the answer. Research needs to be done to figure out why two people can eat the same food, one will be satisfied and the other will be ravenous.

Gingersnap
01-07-2011, 02:52 PM
As a society we have yet to treat weight issues like health issues. We treat it like behavior issues, and it does have to do with behavior, but it's behavior driven by biology. Lots of people make all kinds of judgements about fat people, I guess because it makes them feel better about themselves, but someone who has battled obesity all his life is not the same as someone who doesn't have to consciously regulate his caloric intake or someone who plays with five or ten aging pounds.

Gastric bypass and lapband surgery are not the answer. Research needs to be done to figure out why two people can eat the same food, one will be satisfied and the other will be ravenous.

I think there's a fallacy that normal-weighted people don't have to watch themselves. We may not look like we're paying attention but most of us over 25 really are. If we splurge one day, we cut way back the next. Eating out on the weekend is balanced by low calorie lunches Monday through Friday. It's not a struggle because it's just a plain fact of life.

Mason's problem is not biological. He had a normal weight as a baby and through young adulthood. Why he found eating to be more entertaining than relationships, hobbies, adventures, or whatever is the real mystery. He was featured on a show some years ago and he was militantly defensive of his situation at that time. It's unlikely the NHS could have offered him any help then that he would have found acceptable.

NJCardFan
01-07-2011, 03:06 PM
As a society we have yet to treat weight issues like health issues. We treat it like behavior issues, and it does have to do with behavior, but it's behavior driven by biology. Lots of people make all kinds of judgements about fat people, I guess because it makes them feel better about themselves, but someone who has battled obesity all his life is not the same as someone who doesn't have to consciously regulate his caloric intake or someone who plays with five or ten aging pounds.

Gastric bypass and lapband surgery are not the answer. Research needs to be done to figure out why two people can eat the same food, one will be satisfied and the other will be ravenous.
Someone who overindulges in alcohol or drugs gets treated with more sympathy and respect than people who's vice is overeating. However, the problem today is not how much you eat because you can eat 5 heads of lettuce and gain nary an ounce. It's what we eat. Today's go-go-go society leaves little time for food preparation. IMO, this goes back to Womens Liberation. It's no coincidence that the rise of childhood obesity coincides with the rise of women in the workplace. If you don't believe my theory, watch TV commercials. It's not the concept of fast food that exists, it's how they are advertised now. I've seen many commercials from fast food joints to Boston Market to Pizza Hut to even quick meal items like Stouffers and the like offer "family" type dinners. Mom doesn't have time to cook so we'll just pop this lasagna into the oven and an hour later we have dinner. Truth of the matter is, it's all unhealthy. It's all processed garbage. And it isn't just mom. I remember a McDonalds commercial where a mom is going away on a business trip and she's showing dad all the meals she pre-prepared for the family. When she leaves, dad looks at the containers and ends up taking the kids to McDonalds. Couple this with the advent of video games and other technological wonders and presto, fat kids everywhere. The hope is that these new gaming systems and their move technology will get kids moving again.

As for people like me, it's laziness. I know what I need to do, I just don't do it. So, at least IMO it is a behavioral issue.

linda22003
01-07-2011, 03:11 PM
I saw the pictures. Where's his "junk"? Did his body absorb it?

Novaheart
01-07-2011, 03:28 PM
As for people like me, it's laziness. I know what I need to do, I just don't do it. So, at least IMO it is a behavioral issue.

I'm not saying that good choices and self discipline aren't good or don't work or help. But there is a biological difference between my mother, my best friend, and myself. If we all go to a birthday party, and we all eat a slice of birthday cake, they will be satisfied. I will want another slice. As I drive home, I will be ravenously hungry. I have to ride a bike strenuously 10 miles a day to stay even, and even then I have to diet.

Tendency towards obesity is, imo a chronic health condition which at this point can only be mitigated through diet and exercise. Science has not figured out how to regulate metabolism and hunger to make one "normal". On the bright side, as long as you are reasonably healthy and happy there are much worse things, but clearly Mr. Mason is neither reasonably heathy nor happy.

I'd like to know how much he was actually eating. As a rule of thumb, it takes 10 calories per pound to maintain weight in a sedentary person. So he should have been taking in 9000 calories, which is a huge amount of food. So I am wondering if it actually slows down even further as you get up there, and fewer calories are needed to maintain the weight.

Gingersnap
01-07-2011, 03:37 PM
I'm not saying that good choices and self discipline aren't good or don't work or help. But there is a biological difference between my mother, my best friend, and myself. If we all go to a birthday party, and we all eat a slice of birthday cake, they will be satisfied. I will want another slice. As I drive home, I will be ravenously hungry. I have to ride a bike strenuously 10 miles a day to stay even, and even then I have to diet.

Tendency towards obesity is, imo a chronic health condition which at this point can only be mitigated through diet and exercise. Science has not figured out how to regulate metabolism and hunger to make one "normal". On the bright side, as long as you are reasonably healthy and happy there are much worse things, but clearly Mr. Mason is neither reasonably heathy nor happy.

I'd like to know how much he was actually eating. As a rule of thumb, it takes 10 calories per pound to maintain weight in a sedentary person. So he should have been taking in 9000 calories, which is a huge amount of food. So I am wondering if it actually slows down even further as you get up there, and fewer calories are needed to maintain the weight.

He says he ate around 30,000 calories at his peak. You've got to remember that no matter sedentary he might have been, he also had a lean muscle mass much larger than a normal person. This throws straightforward calculations off.

As far as the being satisfied part goes, I doubt "normal" people are as different from you as you might think. I could certainly eat 3 hefty slices of Black Forest cake with no problems but I'm satisfied with 1 slice because I don't want to deal with the consequences of over-indulgence. The temptation is still there but it's not a crisis. ;)

CueSi
01-07-2011, 04:44 PM
I saw the pictures. Where's his "junk"? Did his body absorb it?

It's under his stomach... or rather, the medical term is the panniculus. It appears to be a grade 4/5. (Yay aunts that are RNs! )

It can't be absorbed , but it CAN be obscured to the point of ... yeah.

~QC

NJCardFan
01-07-2011, 05:05 PM
I saw the pictures. Where's his "junk"? Did his body absorb it?

There's a guy on The Biggest Loser who was over 600lbs and started the season at 507. His belly hangs down to his knees so I asked the same thing. I mean, how do these guy's pee?

And to further expound on fast food joints cashing in on laziness, I just saw a commercial from McDonald's advertising oatmeal. I mean really? The easiest thing on the face of the earth to make that comes in convenient little single serve packets not to mention that Quaker even sells oatmeal in little disposable bowls. Just add hot water. Damn we've sunk as a society.