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Gingersnap
01-11-2011, 10:50 AM
What women REALLY want: To marry a rich man and stay at home with the children

By Liz Hull
Last updated at 7:49 AM on 10th January 2011


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Return of the housewife? A new survey suggests most women would prefer to be at home with the children

Most women still prefer to marry a man who earns more money than they do and would stay at home with their children if they could afford it, according to a survey published yesterday.

Despite years of equality campaigning and advances for women in the workplace, 64 per cent said they aspire to find a husband who brings home a larger pay packet than they do. None wanted to marry a man who earned less. And 69 per cent said they would prefer to stay at home to look after their children if money were not an issue.

Only 19 per cent wanted their other half to be better educated than they are. Instead 62 per cent said they wanted a man to have the same level of intellect. Thirty-one per cent thought they were better educated than their other halves, while 19 per cent thought their husbands were better educated.

The survey follows controversial research published last week by Dr Catherine Hakim of the London School of Economics, which claimed more women are choosing to ‘marry up’ by picking wealthy men for their spouse than in the 1940s. In her report, published by the Centre for Policy Studies think-tank, she said men dominate the top positions because women do not want careers in business.

She also criticised David Cameron for backing the idea of quotas to ensure that leading companies appointed more women to their boards. The research, which drew on existing data from Britain and Spain, showed that 20 per cent of British women married husbands with a significantly better education than their own in 1949.

By the 1990s, the percentage of women deciding to ‘marry up’ had climbed to 38 per cent – with a similar pattern repeated in the rest of Europe, the U.S. and Australia.

The report concluded that equal roles in the family, where husband and wife shared employment, childcare and housework, was ‘not the ideal sought by most couples’. Now a YouGov survey of 922 women, aged between 18 and 65, which was conducted for the Sunday Times last week, has backed Dr Hakim’s claims.

Shocking! Women wanting to raise their own kids? :eek:


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1345520/What-women-REALLY-want-To-marry-rich-man-stay-home-children.html#ixzz1Ak4gDhs2

noonwitch
01-11-2011, 11:15 AM
Every woman but my sister, who is really into working.


As I don't have kids and probably won't (there is no way in hell I'm going to be a 60 year old mother of a teenager), I'll be working until I retire. 8 years, 10 months.

SaintLouieWoman
01-11-2011, 11:30 AM
I would have preferred less working time when the kids were younger, but needed to support them, so no good options were available. The ex didn't like to work, had more education than I (had many advanced degrees, a professional student). I "brought in the bacon" with a mere BA, with dual majors in English and political science. But at least I gave an example of the value of working both hard and smart to my two sons.

Most women probably would like a mix of the intellectual stimulation of a job, as well as the monetary rewards, with adequate time to spend with the kids. It's not always attainable.

Starbuck
01-11-2011, 11:52 AM
Two things would have made my career more fulfilling (I am a retired salesman become trucker became retired again).

1) If I made as much money as everyone thought I did.
2) If traveling was as much fun as everyone thinks it is.

Work is work. Women find out - just as men do - that the glamor of work wears off. Every time you get a promotion you get all fired up again, and then it wears off again.

Then you realize that the world is run by sociopaths. It always has been. Maybe women figure this out before men do, maybe men figure it out and become sociopaths so they can get ahead. Probably a blend of both.

Wei Wu Wei
01-11-2011, 12:27 PM
Who wouldn't, man or woman, want to spend more time with their children if money were not an issue?

Gingersnap
01-11-2011, 12:35 PM
Then you realize that the world is run by sociopaths. It always has been. Maybe women figure this out before men do, maybe men figure it out and become sociopaths so they can get ahead. Probably a blend of both.

There's something to that. Women as a group are much more "average" than men as a group. We have fewer sociopaths in our ranks. We're also less ambitious as a group and we derive much less of our personal identity from paid work. Women are also more likely to see family relationships and day-to-day household management as more rewarding and less annoying than men.

These findings haven't changed much over the past 10,000 years. It's breaking the backs of countries that finance stay-at-home Moms, too. Sadly.

Novaheart
01-11-2011, 12:35 PM
What-women-REALLY-want-To-marry-rich-man-stay-home-children

Who wouldn't?

All though, I have to say I do not envy my friend Cruella who is a househusband. Sure, he doesn't have to commute to work, gets to spend a couple of months a year in Florida, has a decent allowance and a Lincoln, etc... but the price is too high. Being responsible for taking care of a neurotic breadwinner is too much.

I've also noticed that many of these women who want to marry well and stay home with the kids, seek to divorce-well shortly after the kid/kids are born.

The funny thing about people you give money to is that they soon come to expect it, then they come to believe that they deserve it, then they come to believe that you owe it to them. It's rather like salary, no matter how much you pay someone, after a while he thinks he deserves more.

Bailey
01-11-2011, 05:01 PM
Who wouldn't, man or woman, want to spend more time with their children if money were not an issue?

Men work to get away from the wife and kids :D

linda22003
01-11-2011, 07:11 PM
No, what we really want is to marry a rich man and stay at home without children. Easier to schedule lunch dates at the country club, that way. :)

Bailey
01-11-2011, 07:14 PM
No, what we really want is to marry a rich man and stay at home without children. Easier to schedule lunch dates at the country club, that way. :)

Wouldnt life get boring without a job or kids? Well on the plus side women like that may have the poolboy to keep her company ;)

Kay
01-11-2011, 10:20 PM
Most women probably would like a mix of the intellectual stimulation of a job, as well as the monetary rewards, with adequate time to spend with the kids. It's not always attainable.

I had the best of both. I always owned my own business, so my son either went
with me to the office, or I had flexible enough hours to work from home. I never
missed any of his school events.

m00
01-11-2011, 10:43 PM
Who wouldn't, man or woman, want to spend more time with their children if money were not an issue?

Married straight guys.

Novaheart
01-12-2011, 12:38 AM
Wouldnt life get boring without a job or kids? Well on the plus side women like that may have the poolboy to keep her company ;)

nails
hair
shopping
lunch
dinner
gym
pilates
yoga
horseback riding
hospital day
sunshine sisters
junior league
country club ladies aux
work at the thrift shop
business trip with husband
plan cousin's wedding
altar guild
SPCA adoption event
kennel club
equestrian club
go to Palm Beach

Bailey
01-12-2011, 06:47 AM
nails
hair
shopping
lunch
dinner
gym
pilates
yoga
horseback riding
hospital day
sunshine sisters
junior league
country club ladies aux
work at the thrift shop
business trip with husband
plan cousin's wedding
altar guild
SPCA adoption event
kennel club
equestrian club
go to Palm Beach


While i'm sure you love doing all of those activities, I'd think they get boring after a while

SaintLouieWoman
01-12-2011, 08:41 AM
I had the best of both. I always owned my own business, so my son either went
with me to the office, or I had flexible enough hours to work from home. I never
missed any of his school events.

Actually I had a similar situation. I was in outside sales, so always made those school events. I was just out on a "sales call". :D

My hours were flexible, but the pressure to produce good sales numbers was a constant. It just meant that I had to work smarter to be able to have time for the kids and keep my job. I guess I did OK with a 23 year tenure with one company, 4 with another and 2 with the worst to work for, Xerox.

linda22003
01-12-2011, 10:23 AM
nails
hair
shopping
lunch
dinner
gym
pilates
yoga
horseback riding
hospital day
sunshine sisters
junior league
country club ladies aux
work at the thrift shop
business trip with husband
plan cousin's wedding
altar guild
SPCA adoption event
kennel club
equestrian club
go to Palm Beach

Sounds about right, along with museum/historic site docent. I have no idea what "Sunshine Sisters" are, and they bounce you out of Junior League when you're 32. And they bounce you HARD.

Gingersnap
01-12-2011, 11:07 AM
While i'm sure you love doing all of those activities, I'd think they get boring after a while

Why would anybody get bored doing things they love? That doesn't make any sense. :confused:

But even women who aren't interested in the social and volunteer demands of an upper middle class lifestyle can still derive a lot of enjoyment from running a home, socializing, working on hobbies or volunteer activities, and other non-paid things.

A lack of children shouldn't define a woman's existence anymore than the lack of a husband should.

linda22003
01-12-2011, 12:21 PM
But even women who aren't interested in the social and volunteer demands of an upper middle class lifestyle can still derive a lot of enjoyment from running a home, socializing, working on hobbies or volunteer activities, and other non-paid things.



And knitting. Don't forget knitting. I'm currently planning a trip to Reykjavik to see friends, and I'm going to hit every yarn store in town.

Gingersnap
01-12-2011, 12:33 PM
And knitting. Don't forget knitting. I'm currently planning a trip to Reykjavik to see friends, and I'm going to hit every yarn store in town.

I hate you. :mad:




:D

linda22003
01-12-2011, 12:39 PM
AND there's a lopi factory outlet just outside of town; my friend is already planning to drive me there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yxJe5KGKTc

Gingersnap
01-12-2011, 01:23 PM
I hate you². :mad:

linda22003
01-12-2011, 01:25 PM
Yes, well then, my work here is done. :D

Gingersnap
01-12-2011, 01:38 PM
Yes, well then, my work here is done. :D

I will be going to the Estes Park Wool Festival in June, however.

Odysseus
01-12-2011, 01:58 PM
The funny thing about people you give money to is that they soon come to expect it, then they come to believe that they deserve it, then they come to believe that you owe it to them. It's rather like salary, no matter how much you pay someone, after a while he thinks he deserves more.

This is a lucid, intelligent and remarkably inciteful comment. Who are you and what have you done with the real Novaheart?

Kay
01-12-2011, 09:51 PM
I'd like to change my reply here. After this past few weeks,
I believe I would like to marry a rich old geezer immediately
and be a stay at home wife. I still draw the line at taking care
of any snot nosed kids again, but if there's a rich old guy out
there without any (loaded, no heirs, one foot in the grave) I'm
available this week.

CueSi
01-13-2011, 01:08 AM
This is a lucid, intelligent and remarkably inciteful comment. Who are you and what have you done with the real Novaheart?


Nova does that. That's why sometimes iCan with him. Prolly tomorrow, iCan't and iWon't ...but...yeah.

~QC

SaintLouieWoman
01-13-2011, 08:05 AM
AND there's a lopi factory outlet just outside of town; my friend is already planning to drive me there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yxJe5KGKTc

Went to the wool shops in Iceland on a short 3 day visit there. I loved their wool ponchos and scarves. I didn't notice the yarn for knitting, but I never got beyond knitting a scarf for my kids a long, long time ago.

When you go to Iceland be sure to take the tour of their version of Yellowstone. When I was there, no sidewalks were in existence. You just had to be sure to not step into the boiling water.

linda22003
01-13-2011, 08:40 AM
I'd like to change my reply here. After this past few weeks,
I believe I would like to marry a rich old geezer immediately
and be a stay at home wife. I still draw the line at taking care
of any snot nosed kids again, but if there's a rich old guy out
there without any (loaded, no heirs, one foot in the grave) I'm
available this week.

I hear ya. I made the rookie mistake of marrying for love the first time. Next time, I'm looking for an old guy with a big portfolio and a dickey heart.