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megimoo
01-18-2011, 12:00 AM
U.S. intelligence apparently failed to figure out how quickly the Chinese were developing their newest fifth generation J-20 stealth fighter, which U.S. government analysts now say was based on critical U.S. stealth technology transfers that happened while Bill Clinton was president, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.
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Dorsett further indicated that intelligence failed to detect how quickly the Chinese are developing more than a dozen other weapons systems such as new and quieter submarines, long-range cruise missiles and other asymmetric warfare capabilities that differ significantly from the U.S. in terms of military power and resources.

Vice Adm. David Dorsett, director of naval intelligence, said that officials were aware of the development of the J-20, which is supposed to be comparable to the U.S. F-22 stealth fighter, but "the speed at which (the Chinese) are making progress, we underestimated."The U.S. has halted production of the F-22 and is switching to the more advanced F-35, whose production and cost overruns make any timely operational status problematic


Other military analysts say that the Chinese J-20 is an interim fighter until it can perfect a more robust jet engine that will be in a position to challenge the F-35. Experts say that the J-20 exhibits radar-evading stealth features, an advanced electronically scanned array radar and the ability to fly at supersonic speeds for long distances using less fuel



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m00
01-18-2011, 12:07 AM
good thing we give them aid!

megimoo
01-18-2011, 01:12 AM
G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture
"Along with It's Latest High Performance Military Designs"

As China strives for leadership in the world’s most advanced industries, it sees commercial jetliners — planes that may someday challenge the best from Boeing and Airbus — as a top prize.

And no Western company has been more aggressive in helping China pursue that dream than one of the aviation industry’s biggest suppliers of jet engines and airplane technology, General Electric.

On Friday, during the visit of the Chinese president, Hu Jintao, to the United States, G.E. plans to sign a joint-venture agreement in commercial aviation that shows the tricky risk-and-reward calculations American corporations must increasingly make in their pursuit of lucrative markets in China


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/business/global/18plane.html?_r=1
Comments:
What China really wants from G.E. !
http://www.geae.com/engines/index.html

F118 engine :
The F118 is best known for powering the B-2 stealth bomber and the U-2 high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft
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Ft136 engine:.
The Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) is a multi-role, single engine fighter being developed to replace a range of aircraft including the A-10, F-14, F-16, AV-8B Harrier, Sea Harrier, and F/A-18. One of the two primary propulsion systems for this aircraft is the F136.
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The F414-GE-400
is the U.S. Navy's newest and most advanced technology production fighter engine. It incorporates advanced technology with the proven design base of its F404 predecessor to provide the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet with a durable, reliable and easy to maintain engine.
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GE38-1B:
Sikorsky Aircraft, a United Technologies Corp. company, selected the GE38-1B turboshaft engine to power the U.S. Marine Corps' CH-53K heavy-lift helicopter. Sikorsky's three-engine CH-53K aircraft is designed to replace the CH-53E SUPER STALLION(tm) helicopter in the Marine Corps' inventory, which is powered by GE's T64 engine. The CH-53E is the largest, most powerful helicopter suited for marine operation in the world.

m00
01-18-2011, 02:39 AM
Why is this even legal?!?!?

So according to our government Julian Assange should go to prison, but GE gets a pass? Can anyone explain that to me?

megimoo
01-18-2011, 07:29 AM
Why is this even legal?!?!?

So according to our government Julian Assange should go to prison, but GE gets a pass? Can anyone explain that to me?OBAMA'S A BLACK RADICAL SOCIALIST...He Hates America..........Everything He Has Done Thus Far Has Been To Weaken America...........

fettpett
01-18-2011, 10:25 AM
whats funny is we knew about this before the Chinese President did.


and the F-35 being more advanced than the F-22 is a crock of shit. F-22 was designed to be American only, while the F-35 was designed to be sold to our allies.

I also don't believe that the J-20 is anywhere close to the F-22 which is the only TRUE 5th Generation stealth fighter in the world, the J-20 is only in prototype stages anyway where the F-22 and F-35 are combat ready and in service.

djones520
01-18-2011, 10:40 AM
whats funny is we knew about this before the Chinese President did.


and the F-35 being more advanced than the F-22 is a crock of shit. F-22 was designed to be American only, while the F-35 was designed to be sold to our allies.

I also don't believe that the J-20 is anywhere close to the F-22 which is the only TRUE 5th Generation stealth fighter in the world, the J-20 is only in prototype stages anyway where the F-22 and F-35 are combat ready and in service.

The F-35 isn't exactly combat ready or in service just yet. Only 6 aircraft have been built, and Lockheed Martin is still trying to figure out production issues.

The Air Force is only expected to receive 11 of them in FY 2011. Not even enough for an Operational Squadron.

fettpett
01-18-2011, 10:58 AM
The F-35 isn't exactly combat ready or in service just yet. Only 6 aircraft have been built, and Lockheed Martin is still trying to figure out production issues.

The Air Force is only expected to receive 11 of them in FY 2011. Not even enough for an Operational Squadron.

ah, I thought there were more, oh well


The J-20 wont be even close to service ready till 2017 at the earliest, which gives our next president and congress enough time to get the money out there for more F-22's and F-35's

Yukon
01-18-2011, 11:00 AM
Clinton gave them stealth technology - from 'Glen Beck's Revisionist History for Conservatives' edition 1. You people will believe anything.

fettpett
01-18-2011, 11:14 AM
herp durp...I know everything and bow to the Chinese overlords

there fixed for you buddy

megimoo
01-18-2011, 12:25 PM
whats funny is we knew about this before the Chinese President did.


and the F-35 being more advanced than the F-22 is a crock of shit. F-22 was designed to be American only, while the F-35 was designed to be sold to our allies.

I also don't believe that the J-20 is anywhere close to the F-22 which is the only TRUE 5th Generation stealth fighter in the world, the J-20 is only in prototype stages anyway where the F-22 and F-35 are combat ready and in service.

You are correct .Compared to the F-22 the F-35 is a second rate aircraft .
If they had persued F-22 development they would have had problems with exports because of engine and avionics technology leakage. Israel and the UK wanted to buy the F-22 but they also wanted access to the micro and Nano Code that drives the flight and fire control systems.

While the F-22 remains a true air superiority aircraft the F-35 attempts to be an all role aircraft and that compromises the design.They did the same thing to the F-4 Phantom II and while a good aircraft was too heavy and needed a two man crew to fight effectively.In combat it became a 'wallowing pig' against a true high performance aircraft.The Navy F-14 is another example of the same 'Tinker Toy' over design phenomenon.

They claimed that they needed the weapons code compilers to integrate their own weapon systems .That was a bunch of crap .We offered to integrate the weapons into the code for them but they said no because it was secret.Their code is secret but they wanted ours because they claimed they needed it..Horse shit!!!!

If Israel or the UK got a hold of our Weapons and Avionics Code Compilers the Russians and Chinese would buy it from them within a week !

The F-22 is so far ahead of anything they have it's almost comical.None have true thrust vectoring or the avionics of the F-22 !With vectoring it can turn inside of the turning radius of any other fighter in the world !

The new Russian T-50 fighter is billed as an F-22 killer but they are dreaming .Deciding to pursue F-35 development and forgo the F-22 is another example of willful weakening of the American military by Obamas crew.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/06/18/putin-boasts-russias-new-fighter-jet-better-planes/

Madisonian
01-18-2011, 12:35 PM
Clinton gave them stealth technology - from 'Glen Beck's Revisionist History for Conservatives' edition 1. You people will believe anything.

Obviously not "anything" because I have not seen a person here yet that has believed anything you have said or claimed.

Well, except for wilbur. But as nothing more than a post partum mass of parasitic fetal tissue, the statement still stands.

txradioguy
01-18-2011, 12:41 PM
Why is this even legal?!?!?

So according to our government Julian Assange should go to prison, but GE gets a pass? Can anyone explain that to me?


Billy Jeff is to thank for that. When he transferred who controls sensitive dual use equipment over to Commerce. That's when Loral...and big the Big Clinton donor that ran the place was able to help China make it's ICBM's more accurate.

megimoo
01-18-2011, 01:29 PM
Billy Jeff is to thank for that. When he transferred who controls sensitive dual use equipment over to Commerce. That's when Loral...and big the Big Clinton donor that ran the place was able to help China make it's ICBM's more accurate.

Not quite the full story.Before Clinton's payoff for the Chinese Army's Clinton Campaign donations the Chinese rockets all blew up on the launch pad.Loral wanted to transfer technology to the Chinese to help them launch their big boosters but the export control people denied their export permit.

They cried to Clinton and he had Brown handle it through Commerce .Clinton is and has been a traitor just like Dead Ted Kennedy !China has been 'bleeding' American military technology for years and our liberal/Progressive Democrat political leaders have been aiding them in that effort .

They,for all of their vaulted reputation for Innovation they can't hold a candle to American Technology so they steal everything they can get their hands on !Thanks to Clinton and Kennedy China now threatens us in Asia, Europe and through out the world..

m00
01-18-2011, 11:51 PM
See, this is why I'm a non-interventionist.

NJCardFan
01-19-2011, 01:29 AM
GE. First Iran and now China. Oh, goodie. Do they still own NBC?

Constitutionally Speaking
01-19-2011, 05:58 AM
Clinton gave them stealth technology - from 'Glen Beck's Revisionist History for Conservatives' edition 1. You people will believe anything.


Glenn Didn't cover this at all as far as I am aware. Doesn't it deserve some investigation?