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Gingersnap
01-20-2011, 10:45 AM
Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County

Published January 19, 2011

| FoxNews.com

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July 29: Los Angeles workers from 32 different unions joined local faith and community leaders at Dodger Stadium boarding 11 buses bound for Arizona to protest Arizona immigration law SB 1070.

Welfare benefits for the children of illegal immigrants cost America's largest county more than $600 million last year, according to a local official keeping tabs on the cost.

Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich released new statistics this week showing social spending for those families in his county rose to $53 million in November, putting the county government on track to spend more than $600 million on related costs for the year -- up from $570 million in 2009.

Antonovich arrived at the estimate by factoring in the cost of food stamps and welfare-style benefits through a state program known as CalWORKS. Combined with public safety costs and health care costs, the official claimed the "total cost for illegal immigrants to county taxpayers" was more than $1.6 billion in 2010.

"Not including the hundreds of millions of dollars for education," he said in a statement.

Antonovich's figures, though, center on costs generated by American-born children of illegal immigrants. Isabel Alegria, communications director at the California Immigrant Policy Center, said it's "unfair" to roll together costs associated with both illegal immigrants and U.S.-born citizens.

"Those children are U.S. citizens, children eligible for those programs," Alegria said.

She also questioned the authenticity of Antonovich's numbers regarding health care and public safety -- though for the welfare program statistics, Antonovich cited numbers from the county's Department of Public Social Services.

Antonovich acknowledges that the children whose benefits he's focusing on are U.S.-born. But he argues that the money is collected by the illegal immigrant parents, putting a painful burden on taxpayers, including those who are legal immigrants.

"The problem is illegal immigration. ... Their parents evidently immigrated here in order to get on social services," Antonovich spokesman Tony Bell said. "We can no longer afford to be HMO to the world."

He said the state should cut back on these social benefits. According to the November statistics, that cost accounted for 22 percent of all food stamp and CalWORKS spending in the county.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/19/welfare-tab-children-illegal-immigrants-estimated-m-la-county/#ixzz1BagdxE9r

noonwitch
01-20-2011, 03:03 PM
That's a lot of money.


It's a tough situation. We don't have huge numbers of illegal immigrants in Michigan, but we have the expected amount. You know, those bloody Canadians keep coming here to avoid the oppression of their socialist government.

Rockntractor
01-20-2011, 03:07 PM
Send Mexico the bill, payable in oil!

CueSi
01-20-2011, 03:13 PM
Send Mexico the bill, payable in oil!

I like it, let's do it.

~QC

NJCardFan
01-20-2011, 04:53 PM
Wilbur, Wee Wee, thoughts?

Odysseus
01-20-2011, 04:58 PM
Wait a minute! I thought that the whole point of abortion was to prevent the births of poor, unwanted children? If impoverished, semi-literate illegal immigrant women have an absolute right to choose whether or not to have children, why must we pay for their choices? Wei? Wilbur? Your thoughts (or what passes for thought) please?

NJCardFan
01-20-2011, 04:59 PM
Wait a minute! I thought that the whole point of abortion was to prevent the births of poor, unwanted children? If impoverished, semi-literate illegal immigrant women have an absolute right to choose whether or not to have children, why must we pay for their choices? Wei? Wilbur? Your thoughts (or what passes for thought) please?

We think alike.

Arroyo_Doble
01-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Welfare benefits for the children of illegal immigrants cost America's largest county more than $600 million last year, according to a local official keeping tabs on the cost.

If the children are Americans, what difference does it make whose crotch they were squeezed out of?

Wei Wu Wei
01-21-2011, 12:03 PM
Condemned by your ancestors.

Apache
01-21-2011, 12:33 PM
Welfare benefits for the children of illegal immigrants cost America's largest county more than $600 million last year, according to a local official keeping tabs on the cost.

If the children are Americans, what difference does it make whose crotch they were squeezed out of?

Did your parents have surviving children?

Apache
01-21-2011, 12:34 PM
Condemned by your ancestors.

Hardly :rolleyes:

Wei Wu Wei
01-21-2011, 01:20 PM
Hardly?

So they are not condemned by their ancestors? Let's see, they are American Citizens. What is the reason why they should not get the benefits that all citizens have access to?

Wei Wu Wei
01-21-2011, 01:21 PM
As long as we are punishing american Citizens for the actions of their forefathers.....

how about those reperations?

NJCardFan
01-21-2011, 01:23 PM
As long as we are punishing american Citizens for the actions of their forefathers.....

how about those reperations?

Sure. Produce me someone who was a slave when it was in affect and I give them reparations. Good luck with that.

Apache
01-21-2011, 01:26 PM
Hardly?

So they are not condemned by their ancestors? Let's see, they are American Citizens. What is the reason why they should not get the benefits that all citizens have access to?

I'll bet you're a whiz at at yoga...:rolleyes:

Wei Wu Wei
01-21-2011, 01:31 PM
Sure. Produce me someone who was a slave when it was in affect and I give them reparations. Good luck with that.

So if the person in question wasn't actually a slave they shouldn't get reparations?

hmm

and if the American Citizen in question here didn't break any laws or come here illegally....

Apache
01-21-2011, 02:08 PM
So if the person in question wasn't actually a slave they shouldn't get reparations?

hmm

and if the American Citizen in question here didn't break any laws or come here illegally....

Ya know you're right, we'll just round up all the illegals. Hell who knows, that just be the way out of this mess...

txradioguy
01-21-2011, 02:22 PM
Did your parents have surviving children?

Ask him that tomorrow and he'll give you a different answer than what he did today.

He's wishy-washy like that.

txradioguy
01-21-2011, 02:25 PM
So if the person in question wasn't actually a slave they shouldn't get reparations?

Name me one black person you know that can trace their roots back to a slave?

And if you start talking about this silly reparations crap...how you gonna break it to the Cherokee Indians that they need to pay their fair share as well?


hmm

and if the American Citizen in question here didn't break any laws or come here illegally....

Yourself included right?

Odysseus
01-22-2011, 03:04 PM
Welfare benefits for the children of illegal immigrants cost America's largest county more than $600 million last year, according to a local official keeping tabs on the cost.

If the children are Americans, what difference does it make whose crotch they were squeezed out of?


Hardly?

So they are not condemned by their ancestors? Let's see, they are American Citizens. What is the reason why they should not get the benefits that all citizens have access to?

I propose as simple solution. Since the parents are illegals, but the children are US citizens, then the parents have a choice: Return to their native countries without their kids (making them wards of the state), or take their kids with them when they leave. At the age of 18, the now-adult child can return and claim his citizenship, and his parents can wait until the citizen is sufficiently established to sponsor them, as his dependents. Birthright citizenship is still kept, but the citizens no longer act as anchor babies.