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Perilloux
08-27-2008, 06:15 PM
updated 48 minutes ago

Child killer smiles as he gets death sentence (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/27/duncan.death.ap/index.html)

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- Joseph Edward Duncan III was sentenced to death for the 2005 kidnapping, torture and murder of a northern Idaho boy after the federal jury deliberated just three hours. The jurors' recommendation was binding on U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge, who thanked them, dismissed them and then issued the sentence Wednesday. Duncan showed no reaction, but he did smile as the verdict was passed to the judge.

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Duncan murdered 13-year-old Slade Groene; his mother, Brenda Groene; and her fiancé, Mark McKenzie, in their Coeur d'Alene home. He then kidnapped Dylan and his then-8-year-old sister, Shasta Groene.

Duncan took the two deep into the Montana wilderness, where he sexually abused and tortured them for weeks. He ultimately shot Dylan point-blank in the head while Shasta watched. He was arrested after returning with Shasta to Coeur d'Alene, where a waitress recognized the girl as the two ate at a Denny's restaurant.

Duncan pleaded guilty to the three Idaho murders in state court in 2006. In January 2007, the federal government charged him with 10 felonies for the trauma he inflicted on Dylan and Shasta. Duncan pleaded guilty in December to those charges. Duncan also could face execution on state counts in the other three killings.

Good.

LogansPapa
08-27-2008, 06:17 PM
Now, they should do it before the sun rises again. :mad:

Shannon
08-27-2008, 06:58 PM
Does anyone know where the kids are now and how they're doing?:(

LibraryLady
08-27-2008, 07:11 PM
Duncan killed her mother and two brothers but Shasta Groene was back with her dad.
This article is pretty old:


COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) - In the two years since she was rescued from a sexual predator who murdered most of her family, 10-year-old Shasta Groene has faced nearly incomprehensible emotional challenges.

But the girl and her father have also faced financial challenges, including being homeless for a time.

Disturbed by this development, a local group is raising money to build a home for Shasta and Steve Groene, 50, who has throat cancer and no longer can work.

"They are currently living on Shasta's Social Security and Steve's disability," said Midge Smock, an owner of Windermere Coeur d'Alene Realty Inc. who is leading the effort to build a home for the Groenes. "He did not give me an exact figure, but I'm quite sure it is around the poverty level."

While nearly $90,000 in donations poured in from around the country after Shasta was rescued from her abductor in July 2005, the money is held in trust for the girl until she is 25 and can't be used for daily living expenses now, said Shasta Groene Charitable Trust trustee Lee Anderson.
http://www.komonews.com/news/7026772.html

Shannon
08-27-2008, 07:14 PM
How sad. I don't know why I thought the little boy lived. It's hard to get through these articles.:(

Perilloux
08-27-2008, 07:19 PM
Does anyone know where the kids are now and how they're doing?:(

Shasta is the only one that lived through it, and I read that she's doing OK living with her Dad now. I believe they video taped her testimony so she wouldn't have to face him in court. I also read, several months ago, that Steve Groene has cancer(throat IIRC) haven't read much about them recently though.

Goldwater
08-27-2008, 10:33 PM
How sad. I don't know why I thought the little boy lived. It's hard to get through these articles.:(

I know, it seems like every day a child is abducted and raped and/or killed. The world can be a dark place...

expat-pattaya
08-28-2008, 12:58 AM
Now, they should do it before the sun rises again. :mad:

No. First, a year in prison in the general population. Then, maybe use him as an experiment in how long someone can live on 200 calories a day. Then when he is almost dead - kill him.

AmPat
08-28-2008, 04:04 AM
No. First, a year in prison in the general population. Then, maybe use him as an experiment in how long someone can live on 200 calories a day. Then when he is almost dead - kill him.

With a potato (e):D peeler from the feet up.

expat-pattaya
08-28-2008, 04:45 AM
With a potato (e):D peeler from the feet up.

OK. That's the kind of creativity we need for this problem :D

cat714
08-28-2008, 05:43 AM
cut his d*ck off and burn him alive. Sicko! :mad:

Lanie
08-28-2008, 11:38 AM
Smiles? I think he's going to Hell.

Lanie
08-28-2008, 11:39 AM
Duncan killed her mother and two brothers but Shasta Groene was back with her dad.
This article is pretty old:

http://www.komonews.com/news/7026772.html

Cancer? How sad. :(

Space Gravy
08-28-2008, 12:04 PM
updated 48 minutes ago

Child killer smiles as he gets death sentence (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/27/duncan.death.ap/index.html)

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- Joseph Edward Duncan III was sentenced to death for the 2005 kidnapping, torture and murder of a northern Idaho boy after the federal jury deliberated just three hours. The jurors' recommendation was binding on U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge, who thanked them, dismissed them and then issued the sentence Wednesday. Duncan showed no reaction, but he did smile as the verdict was passed to the judge.

<<Snip<<

Duncan murdered 13-year-old Slade Groene; his mother, Brenda Groene; and her fiancé, Mark McKenzie, in their Coeur d'Alene home. He then kidnapped Dylan and his then-8-year-old sister, Shasta Groene.

Duncan took the two deep into the Montana wilderness, where he sexually abused and tortured them for weeks. He ultimately shot Dylan point-blank in the head while Shasta watched. He was arrested after returning with Shasta to Coeur d'Alene, where a waitress recognized the girl as the two ate at a Denny's restaurant.

Duncan pleaded guilty to the three Idaho murders in state court in 2006. In January 2007, the federal government charged him with 10 felonies for the trauma he inflicted on Dylan and Shasta. Duncan pleaded guilty in December to those charges. Duncan also could face execution on state counts in the other three killings.

Good.

I know dead's dead and the death penalty is the death penalty. I haven't followed the case and the article didn't say, but I'm curious how this ended up in a Federal Court?

LibraryLady
08-28-2008, 12:07 PM
Kidnapping?

Molon Labe
08-28-2008, 12:35 PM
Does anyone know where the kids are now and how they're doing?:(

There is a video on you tube of the girl, but I'm not sure how recent. it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUBKEFZ-FPY

linda22003
08-28-2008, 02:06 PM
I know dead's dead and the death penalty is the death penalty. I haven't followed the case and the article didn't say, but I'm curious how this ended up in a Federal Court?

Kidnapping and crossing state lines.

AlmostThere
08-28-2008, 02:15 PM
Kidnapping and crossing state lines.
Kidnapping and crossing state lines to commit sexual assault on a minor.

patsfan
08-28-2008, 08:28 PM
There is a video on you tube of the girl, but I'm not sure how recent. it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUBKEFZ-FPY

Poor kid. I couldn't even watch it. I wonder how many times she wakes up screaming.

FuroraCeltica
08-29-2008, 05:01 AM
I know, it seems like every day a child is abducted and raped and/or killed. The world can be a dark place...

It can be an even darker place if you have the misfortune to live in a country with no death penalty. Here in the European Union, child sex attackers have more rights than there victims.

The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that the death penalty is a "human rights violation".

The European Court of Human Rights has also ruled that life in prison is a "human rights violation".

Be sure to share this information with your liberal work colleagues next time they say "We should be more like Europe".