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Carol
02-20-2011, 03:18 PM
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-20-11 02:06 PM
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If Walker calls in the National Guard he may not end up quite where he expects to.

Walker making threats of calling in the Wisconsin National Guard brings up an interesting historical precedent. George Wallace lost control of the Alabama National Guard on June 11, 1963 in an incident known as "The Stand In the Schoolhouse Door." Wallace defied a federal court order to allow African American students access to University of Alabama. Upon urging of Bobby Kennedy, JFK seized control of the Alabama National Guard and the students were admitted to University of Alabama after Governor George Wallace was literally removed from the doorway. (Did you guys see Forrest Gump?)

I have to wonder if we'd see a similar situation develop in Wisconsin if Walker acts on his threat. It is clear that under the right circumstances the President has the right to take control of the National Guard. Could Wisconsin present that set of circumstances?

Has this occurred to anyone else here at DU?



LauraSo a Governor defying a federal court order (Wallace) is the same as a Governor calling in the the National Guard to promote order if the protests become violent?


cantbeserious (70 posts) Sun Feb-20-11 02:08 PM
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2. Thank You For The History Lesson - Seeing That Scenario Unfold Would Be Priceless

demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Feb-20-11 02:11 PM
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4. I don't think President Obama would touch that with a ten foot pole.

Thank you for this informative post. K&R

Rectangle (388 posts) Sun Feb-20-11 02:55 PM
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28. Agreed, it would be better (for us), if the President let it play out naturally.

If collective bargaining is rescinded, 12,000 state employees
are FIRED, and the Nat'l Guard gets called out, the GOP will look like
the despotic thugs that they truly are on NATIONAL TV.
On the other hand, the high price of that scenario is how to help all
our brothers and sisters that get axed by the regime!!
The Walker regime is counting on all of us not having the stomach
for the truly ugly stuff!!

TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) list Sun Feb-20-11 02:18 PM
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10. It occurs to me that the very people that are mounting

protests to the Governor's union-busting tactics are likely to be the same people that have joined the National Guard!

Teachers, postal workers, firefighters, cops, social workers, etc........

kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-20-11 02:27 PM
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18. This is a very interesting and thought-provoking question.

If he did call up the National Guard, it would have to be for a very, very good reason. People protesting to keep the rights they already have is not a legitimate reason to disband or arrest them. In that case, the President would have the authority to defend the rights of the union workers in Wisconsin, as he would in any other state in the union.

This Governor is very arrogant and has the similar bravado or chutzpah of George Wallace. He is not afraid to challenge the authority in Washington. They are already talking about Obama keeping his nose out of their business. However, when they try to dismiss or "tread upon" the rights of any citizen, they are subject to Federal law.

Keith Bee (3 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Feb-20-11 02:43 PM
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21. If it can happen in Egypt, then there's hope for Wisconsin

I'm sure the National Guard could do a much better job governing the state than Walker, Clueless Ranger.

hoplophobe
02-20-2011, 06:30 PM
I thought National Guard was going to be called out to work in the prisons if the guards attempt a strike or stoppage? No?

fettpett
02-20-2011, 09:01 PM
I thought National Guard was going to be called out to work in the prisons if the guards attempt a strike or stoppage? No?

yes, they are lying about what Walker has said he was going to do with the NG

PoliCon
02-21-2011, 01:02 AM
link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x464552)

So a Governor defying a federal court order (Wallace) is the same as a Governor calling in the the National Guard to promote order if the protests become violent?

In the twisted logic of the left -yes.

NJCardFan
02-21-2011, 01:08 AM
I thought National Guard was going to be called out to work in the prisons if the guards attempt a strike or stoppage? No?

Considering we can't strike, no. They would just lock down the prison and work on minimal staff.


the GOP will look like
the despotic thugs that they truly are on NATIONAL TV.
As opposed to the union thugs at work? :rolleyes: