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megimoo
02-27-2011, 06:23 AM
Iran and Syria have agreed to cooperate on naval training, Iran's official news agency said on Saturday, Reuters reported. "The two parties will cooperate with each other in training issues and the exchange of personnel," IRNA quoted the agreement, signed by the commanders of both navies, as saying, according to the report..... The agreement came days after two Iranian warships the Khark, which has 250 crew members and can carry three helicopters, and the Alvand, which is armed with torpedoes and anti-ship missiles arrived at Syria's Latakia seaport on Thursday, sailing through the Suez Canal and into the

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Does this mean that there will be ships from Iran permanently based in the Med now? Count on it. The better to coordinate the attack on Israel and smuggle rockets to Hamas and Hezbollah.

" Israel needs more submarines .How about a few los Angeles class 688's loaded with cruise missiles and Mk 48's ?"

Starbuck
02-27-2011, 09:01 AM
Bluster and more saber rattling from the Land of Goons.

The last time the Iranian Navy challenged the U.S. Navy there was a quick decision. Those Iranians who did not run for their lives were, as they say, engaged. That was Operation Praying Mantis in 1988.

Worth noting, I think, is that the co-ordinated attack began in earnest only 4 days after a U.S. ship struck a mine, which indicates plans were already in place. I am confident that plans are in place now. Not quite so confident that our Illustrious Leader will do much more than apologize for blowing up the Iranian mine, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

Every missile the Iranians fired missed.:)

One Iranian fighter fled when the U.S fire control radar locked on.:)

fettpett
02-27-2011, 09:08 AM
Bluster and more saber rattling from the Land of Goons.

The last time the Iranian Navy challenged the U.S. Navy there was a quick decision. Those Iranians who did not run for their lives were, as they say, engaged. That was Operation Praying Mantis in 1988.

Worth noting, I think, is that the co-ordinated attack began in earnest only 4 days after a U.S. ship struck a mine, which indicates plans were already in place. I am confident that plans are in place now. Not quite so confident that our Illustrious Leader will do much more than apologize for blowing up the Iranian mine, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

Every missile the Iranians fired missed.:)

One Iranian fighter fled when the U.S fire control radar locked on.:)

didn't they try to attack some American ships in the Gulf of Hurmuz a couple years ago

Zathras
02-27-2011, 02:31 PM
Hopefully the Israeli Air Force and Navy give them a chance to practice their damage control, abandon ship and rescue at sea training as well.

djones520
02-27-2011, 02:33 PM
didn't they try to attack some American ships in the Gulf of Hurmuz a couple years ago

They tried playing a game of chicken or two. I think we either put some shots over their bow, or into their bow.

megimoo
02-27-2011, 02:49 PM
Hopefully the Israeli Air Force and Navy give them a chance to practice their damage control, abandon ship and rescue at sea training as well.Much better if they have an accident and hit a torpedo launched by an Israeli submarine.The Mk 48's American heavy torpedo is an awesome weapon !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwWzFSePevw&feature=related

MK-48 Torpedo ADCAP
Range:
Officially "Greater than 5 miles (8 km)"

Claimed
40 kt 55 kt
MK-48 44,550 yd 34,430 yd
MK-48 ADCAP 54,685 yd 42,530 yd
Weapon acquisition range 1600 yards
Min/Max ASROC launching ranges 1500 to 12000 yards
Speed Officially "Greater than 28 knots (32.2 mph, 51.52 kph)"
Reportedly - 40 - 55 kt.
Actual 55 knots
Depth Officially "Greater than 1,200 ft (365.76 meters)"
Reportedly 3,000 ft
Search/attack depth settings Minimum 20 yards
Maximum 1500 yards
Run characteristics 6-8 minutes
downward
Guidance System Wire guided and passive/active acoustic homing
Warhead 650 lbs (292.5 kg) high explosive
Date Deployed 1972
1988 ADCAP
Unit Cost $2.5 million
$3.5 million (?) ADCAP
...........................

Bailey
02-27-2011, 05:57 PM
What ship was that?

megimoo
02-27-2011, 07:52 PM
What ship was that?

Former Australian Destroyer Escort Torrens .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mark_48_Torpedo_testing.jpg

Starbuck
02-27-2011, 07:56 PM
What ship was that?

Couldn't tell you what ship it was, but none of the ships shown seemed to be underway (moving). Probably towed out to the target area.

Novaheart
02-27-2011, 08:55 PM
I can understand that Arabs have been a seafaring people for thousands of years and still the idea of an Iranian or Syrian navy seems incongruent. Maybe it's the idea of a calm and profession crew being born of a caricature of that culture which I can't feature. I see a bunch of angry caricatures.

Articulate_Ape
02-27-2011, 09:14 PM
I can understand that Arabs have been a seafaring people for thousands of years and still the idea of an Iranian or Syrian navy seems incongruent. Maybe it's the idea of a calm and profession crew being born of a caricature of that culture which I can't feature. I see a bunch of angry caricatures.


Seafaring people? As pirates, marauders, and slave traders perhaps. As explorers, I don't think so. Exploration requires an inquiring mind. That qualification alone leaves the dune baboons out of the picture.

Bailey
02-27-2011, 11:57 PM
Former Australian Destroyer Escort Torrens .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mark_48_Torpedo_testing.jpg

Thanks :)

noonwitch
02-28-2011, 08:41 AM
Seafaring people? As pirates, marauders, and slave traders perhaps. As explorers, I don't think so. Exploration requires an inquiring mind. That qualification alone leaves the dune baboons out of the picture.


The ancient Phoenecians were a seafaring people, and they lived in the areas that are now Lebanon, Gaza and Syria. But that was a very long time ago, long before Islam or Christianity.

Odysseus
02-28-2011, 01:35 PM
Gator will be sorry that he missed a thread on Israeli anti-ship capabilities. :D


I can understand that Arabs have been a seafaring people for thousands of years and still the idea of an Iranian or Syrian navy seems incongruent. Maybe it's the idea of a calm and profession crew being born of a caricature of that culture which I can't feature. I see a bunch of angry caricatures.
There hasn't been a Muslim presence on the high seas since the battle of Lepanto. The Arabs were decent sailors in the Mediterannean, which was shallower than the Atlantic Ocean, had generally calmer weather and less wind to drive ships, so they retained galleys long after the western European powers had transitioned to full sail. The development of the galleass, a kind of hybrid between a galley and a ship of the line, was the decisive factor at Lepanto, where galleys that attempted to ram the ships discovered that the sides were where the cannon were laid and ended up being reduced to kindling.

The ancient Phoenecians were a seafaring people, and they lived in the areas that are now Lebanon, Gaza and Syria. But that was a very long time ago, long before Islam or Christianity.

Islam pretty much crushed any Arab desire for technological innovation, which is why there were no Muslim colonies in the new world. They've used ships built by others the same way that they've applied all other western technologies that come into their hands, as a tool of jihad.