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hampshirebrit
04-02-2011, 06:01 PM
greyhounds

Interesting what you just said about greys on the other thread. My elderly mother's elderly widowed neighbour and good friend, lost her border collie early this year. I've always got on well with BCs, and especially this one, Holly, a girl dog getting on in years, but not really showing it until the last. I used to love walking her, always off the leash, so smart, always looking back to see where I was, always coming back to me when getting close to a road. I used to take her to the village pub, where, of course, everyone knew her and everyone knew whose dog she really was, i.e. not mine, Marie's.

My mother's friend Marie couldn't bear being without a dog, so she's gone and got a grey female, Bella, who I understand is a racetrack rescue. Apparently, she's a great dog, and I am told that I will fall in love when I meet her. I'm sure that's true.

I've decided lately that I don't much like living here without cat or dog. For me, there is something seriously wrong about a home with no pets. It just doesn't feel right. Right now, I'm living in a house, albeit quite a nice one, but in no way is it a home.

So I've decided to get both a dog and a cat. Current thinking is a kitten and a pupper, and the reasoning behind this is that I want them to get along, and getting them as babies is probably the best shot I'll have of making it so. Apparently event ordering (which one is first in their new home, as well as the age down to weeks, that they are introduced) is quite important, so I am giving this some serious research effort. I have to get this one right. I am looking specifically at ethical breeders that spend time and effort making sure that their pups and kittens are socialised to the other species.

This is going to be a lot of hard work and will require major planning and a huge amount of effort and expenditure. I'm making changes in my life to make sure that this will be possible and that I will be able to give both of them the start in life they need and deserve.

I'm pretty much settled on a Scottish Fold for the kitteh. They are unbearably cute and very sociable and affectionate, and get along with canines well.

I'm not sure what for the pupper. I really love BCs, but they have the highest rate of referral and rehoming for behavioural issues. That said, I am close to concluding a deal where I will be able to work from home and set my travel agenda to suit my own requirements, so at the moment I'm thinking a BC pupper is definitely on the short list.

I'd really welcome any suggestions and advice from you folks.

Rockntractor
04-02-2011, 06:11 PM
My number one most favorite out of six dogs is Wally , he is a dingo and one of the most brilliant minds of our time. I am surprised that dingos aren't ruling Australia by now.

hampshirebrit
04-02-2011, 06:19 PM
My number one most favorite out of six dogs is Wally , he is a dingo and one of the most brilliant minds of our time. I am surprised that dingos aren't ruling Australia by now.

I've been reading very positive info about the Australian Cattle Dog, which apparently has close links to the dingo. They are supposedly a bit calmer but as smart as BCs. Definitely on the list.

megimoo
04-02-2011, 07:45 PM
I've been reading very positive info about the Australian Cattle Dog, which apparently has close links to the dingo. They are supposedly a bit calmer but as smart as BCs. Definitely on the list.That of course will require Sonna's permission !

hampshirebrit
04-02-2011, 08:29 PM
That of course will require Sonna's permission !

Hey Megs, here's the kitteh, Scottish Fold, I'm getting.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lir4oj2ktj1qcpv98o1_500.jpg

Damn, how cute is that?

Rockntractor
04-02-2011, 08:32 PM
Hey Megs, here's the kitteh, Scottish Fold, I'm getting.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lir4oj2ktj1qcpv98o1_500.jpg

Damn, how cute is that?

Now that is just disgusting!:eek::D

PoliCon
04-02-2011, 08:34 PM
and why aren't you getting a bulldog like a proper limey should?? hummmm???

hampshirebrit
04-02-2011, 08:42 PM
and why aren't you getting a bulldog like a proper limey should?? hummmm???

Slobber, mostly. I've thought seriously about a German Boxer, though.

http://www.terrificpets.com/images/uploads/breeds_07248125830148_1.jpg

megimoo
04-02-2011, 09:08 PM
Hey Megs, here's the kitteh, Scottish Fold, I'm getting.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lir4oj2ktj1qcpv98o1_500.jpg

Damn, how cute is that? In my minds eye I can see her as she grows up and rules the roost. She will be a comfort for you in your rapidly approaching old age .BTW Have you always had a cat growing up ?Cats are much neater and clean up after themselves .Puppies require lots of care .

Rockntractor
04-02-2011, 09:24 PM
She will be a comfort for you in your rapidly approaching old age .

Snicker snicker.:D

PoliCon
04-02-2011, 09:49 PM
Slobber, mostly. I've thought seriously about a German Boxer, though.

http://www.terrificpets.com/images/uploads/breeds_07248125830148_1.jpg

boxers are almost as cute . . . .

Gingersnap
04-02-2011, 09:53 PM
The most important thing is to think about your activity needs first. I'm glad you're going to be staying home because a puppy needs a lot of face time. If you are very active yourself and plan on walking the doggie several times a day for some decent distance than a BC could be just fine. Most of the surrenders are made by people who don't understand the activity-level BCs require or they think they can leave a young BC alone and bored for hours every day.

There really isn't much of a trick to getting cats and dogs to cohabit. Kittens and puppies are actually a tougher to sell to each other since neither of them has a shred of self-restraint and they will rough-house with each other in ways that can turn too serious, too quick. An older dog is usually calmer around a kitten. Usually. :D

Madisonian
04-02-2011, 10:02 PM
I will admit more than a little bias here, but I would go for the BC in a heartbeat.
Get a pup from a good breeder (or preferably rescue) that works the dogs on stock. Working bred dogs are usually calmer and better behaved then the poorly bred kennel club or agility lines.

People in the US pay thousands to import a UK BC, many because the Kennel Clubs have pretty much ruined the breed here. Count your blessings and go for the best breed there is.:D

Kay
04-02-2011, 11:38 PM
I've decided lately that I don't much like living here without cat or dog.
For me, there is something seriously wrong about a home with no pets.
It just doesn't feel right. Right now, I'm living in a house, albeit quite a
nice one, but in no way is it a home.

This is so very true!
And that is the cutest little snow leopard in that picture.

My oldest Yorkie was raised from a puppy with two cats,
and still loves being around them. Yorkies are such quirky
little beasts, but if you ever have one you'll be hooked.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1Fp5LoDj8B-X6hwvuBGLnQ73_x1dLMNXi7_vObjEUNtM_DulD

Rockntractor
04-02-2011, 11:53 PM
I could picture Hamps with a Shih Tzu poking it's head out the collar of his jacket.:D

Gingersnap
04-02-2011, 11:57 PM
I was thinking about the cat-angle and while Scottish Folds are cute, Rag Dolls are both impressive in appearance and very relaxed cats. I have one and I don't know that I'd get another type now. My mother raised Himalayans (a colorway of Persian) and I've had Siamese (scary smart) as well as ordinary short-haired cats.

The Rag Doll has been unimpressed by the wide variety of dogs we've had. She's large enough to stand off any foolishness but easy-going enough to play along with puppy antics. They are good-looking cats having medium fur, white paws/belly, and a bit of a ruff around the neck. I think they only come in multi-colored. They have huge feet and fluffy tails. They are a very large cat with inclinations more like dogs. They are affectionate but not demanding (as Siamese are) and Xena is an excellent and lethal mouser.

Just a thought.

megimoo
04-03-2011, 12:02 AM
Slobber, mostly. I've thought seriously about a German Boxer, though.

http://www.terrificpets.com/images/uploads/breeds_07248125830148_1.jpgWe have an English purebred bull dog and raised it from a pup.Right now He weighs about eighty five pounds and isn't quite full grown .You are correct, he slobbers all over you to get your attention .He reminds me a bit of Polli in that regard.Good natured to a fault and funny to watch as he chases the other two dogs out to greet the mailman .He runs sort of sideways,his butt swivels off center in a full gallop .

hampshirebrit
04-03-2011, 05:29 AM
Interesting feedback folks, thanks.

Megi, I only had any pets since 1997. A dog will be a new experience in my life, although I have a fair amount of time with various friends' dogs.

Ginger, good points, especially activity. I'm really looking for a dog that will want lots of walking and will be ok with car journeys. On the kitten / puppy issue, I've heard it said that the dog should be the first to arrive in the new home ... so get the pupper, let it get used to the place, and then get the kitty.

PoliCon
04-03-2011, 10:54 AM
I could picture Hamps with a Shih Tzu poking it's head out the collar of his jacket.:D

Or a Chihuahua he can carry around on his arm and dress up in special outfits . . . .



:D

PoliCon
04-03-2011, 10:56 AM
I was thinking about the cat-angle and while Scottish Folds are cute, Rag Dolls are both impressive in appearance and very relaxed cats. I have one and I don't know that I'd get another type now. My mother raised Himalayans (a colorway of Persian) and I've had Siamese (scary smart) as well as ordinary short-haired cats.

The Rag Doll has been unimpressed by the wide variety of dogs we've had. She's large enough to stand off any foolishness but easy-going enough to play along with puppy antics. They are good-looking cats having medium fur, white paws/belly, and a bit of a ruff around the neck. I think they only come in multi-colored. They have huge feet and fluffy tails. They are a very large cat with inclinations more like dogs. They are affectionate but not demanding (as Siamese are) and Xena is an excellent and lethal mouser.

Just a thought.

Now hold on - Siamese get a bad rap and it's not fair. I mean sure a female Siamese is hell on earth - but the males make WONDERFUL pets.

Odysseus
04-03-2011, 11:34 AM
My number one most favorite out of six dogs is Wally , he is a dingo and one of the most brilliant minds of our time. I am surprised that dingos aren't ruling Australia by now.
They are, but Sonna won't tell you, because they monitor his commo. :D

Hey Megs, here's the kitteh, Scottish Fold, I'm getting.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lir4oj2ktj1qcpv98o1_500.jpg

Damn, how cute is that?

Awwwwwwww....

We have two cats, and the older one took an instant dislike to the kitten when we got her, while the kitten wanted nothing but to play with the older cat, so you're right about the age issue. A working dog may be comfortable with other animals, but my experience is that retrievers are the most accommodating as far as getting along with other animals, while terriers are the least. A sheparding dog may end up herding your kitten around, which may be the first time anyone has successfully done that.

djones520
04-03-2011, 11:35 AM
I've been reading very positive info about the Australian Cattle Dog, which apparently has close links to the dingo. They are supposedly a bit calmer but as smart as BCs. Definitely on the list.

My dog is a BC German Shephard mix. Dumb as they come. She definitely missed out on the rule that those breeds are smart.

hampshirebrit
04-03-2011, 01:37 PM
Or a Chihuahua he can carry around on his arm and dress up in special outfits . . . .



:D

Settle, settle ! :mad: :D

Rockntractor
04-03-2011, 02:51 PM
Or a Chihuahua he can carry around on his arm and dress up in special outfits . . . .



:D

Good thinking!
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/4007dressed_up_dog.jpg

PoliCon
04-03-2011, 07:42 PM
Good thinking!
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/4007dressed_up_dog.jpg

more like this knowing him! :D

http://wtfhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/dog-costumes-chihuahua-schoolgirl.jpg

Melody
04-03-2011, 08:16 PM
Interesting what you just said about greys on the other thread. My elderly mother's elderly widowed neighbour and good friend, lost her border collie early this year. I've always got on well with BCs, and especially this one, Holly, a girl dog getting on in years, but not really showing it until the last. I used to love walking her, always off the leash, so smart, always looking back to see where I was, always coming back to me when getting close to a road. I used to take her to the village pub, where, of course, everyone knew her and everyone knew whose dog she really was, i.e. not mine, Marie's.

My mother's friend Marie couldn't bear being without a dog, so she's gone and got a grey female, Bella, who I understand is a racetrack rescue. Apparently, she's a great dog, and I am told that I will fall in love when I meet her. I'm sure that's true.

I've decided lately that I don't much like living here without cat or dog. For me, there is something seriously wrong about a home with no pets. It just doesn't feel right. Right now, I'm living in a house, albeit quite a nice one, but in no way is it a home.

So I've decided to get both a dog and a cat. Current thinking is a kitten and a pupper, and the reasoning behind this is that I want them to get along, and getting them as babies is probably the best shot I'll have of making it so. Apparently event ordering (which one is first in their new home, as well as the age down to weeks, that they are introduced) is quite important, so I am giving this some serious research effort. I have to get this one right. I am looking specifically at ethical breeders that spend time and effort making sure that their pups and kittens are socialised to the other species.

This is going to be a lot of hard work and will require major planning and a huge amount of effort and expenditure. I'm making changes in my life to make sure that this will be possible and that I will be able to give both of them the start in life they need and deserve.

I'm pretty much settled on a Scottish Fold for the kitteh. They are unbearably cute and very sociable and affectionate, and get along with canines well.

I'm not sure what for the pupper. I really love BCs, but they have the highest rate of referral and rehoming for behavioural issues. That said, I am close to concluding a deal where I will be able to work from home and set my travel agenda to suit my own requirements, so at the moment I'm thinking a BC pupper is definitely on the short list.

I'd really welcome any suggestions and advice from you folks.


Persian cats get along with humans, cats and dogs, so do Shelties. I highly recommend a sheltie and a persian. Which comes first is not so important than which sex comes first, and how YOU introduce them.

Odysseus
04-03-2011, 09:49 PM
more like this knowing him! :D

http://wtfhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/dog-costumes-chihuahua-schoolgirl.jpg

That is just wrong on so many levels...:eek:

SarasotaRepub
04-03-2011, 10:04 PM
I'm not really a cat person so I'll punt on that.

Dogger wise I'd obviously go for a Greyhound but I'd really
like one of these...


http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/great%20dane.jpg


:eek::D

Kay
04-03-2011, 11:41 PM
Find the kitty in this picture........

http://www.itchmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/funny-pictures-cat-dog-camouflage.jpg

hampshirebrit
04-04-2011, 03:43 AM
Find the kitty in this picture........

http://www.itchmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/funny-pictures-cat-dog-camouflage.jpg

Now THAT is teh cuteness. :)

noonwitch
04-04-2011, 11:14 AM
My number one most favorite out of six dogs is Wally , he is a dingo and one of the most brilliant minds of our time. I am surprised that dingos aren't ruling Australia by now.


There's probably not enough babies for them to eat there.