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megimoo
04-07-2011, 05:18 AM
With a razor-thin 204-vote lead, Democratic state assistant attorney general JoAnne Kloppenburg has declared victory over Republican incumbent David Prosser in the race for Wisconsin state Supreme Court justice.
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http://www.stopunionpoliticalabuse.org/
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ACORN's cofounder, Wade Rathke, also founded SEIU
http://theunionnews.blogspot.com/2008/10/npr-exposes-acorn-seiu-connection.html
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Nevada voting machines automatically checking Harry Reid's name; voting machine technicians are SEIU members

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2010/10/nevada-voting-machines-automatically-checking-harry-reids-name-vot
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Dirty tricks in Wisconsin? Ballots being thrown away in heavily pro-Prosser county
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/04/dirty-tricks-wisconsin-ballots-being-thrown-away-heavily-pro-pros
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A recount in this race, which some view as a referendum on Gov. Scott Walker's anti-union policies, seems inevitable, and it is not clear who will ultimately take the seat on the Wisconsin bench. But if this expensive and nasty race ends up in protracted litigation, it could undermine public confidence in both the judiciary and Wisconsinís electoral process, especially if, as I expect, supporters of Prosser raise ugly allegations of voter fraud.

Because of the intense national interest in this issue, the amount of outside money spent to influence the election set a state record, more than $3.5 million on TV ads.

To begin with, these days any statewide election within a few hundred votes will likely be within the margin of litigation. Since the 2000 election and dispute over the razor-thin margin separating George W. Bush and Al Gore for the Florida vote, and therefore the U.S. presidency, litigating the outcome of close elections has become a regular feature of U.S. political life.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52683.html

Obama Threatens Veto If Congress Strips Pro-Union Election Rules in FAA Bill

As noted on Tuesday, the FAA Reauthorization and Reform Act is scheduled for a vote today. However, the White House is now stating that it is likely the President will veto the legislation if a provision that gives union bosses the ability to more easily unionize airline (and railroad) employees is not removed.
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Under election rules established less than a year ago, in the dark of night by two pro-union National Mediation Board members (both of whom are former union bosses themselves), 75 years worth of precedent on how union election ballot counts are conducted were thrown out the window.

http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/2011/03/obama-threatens-veto-if-congress-strips-pro-union-election-rules-in-faa-bill/

Zathras
04-07-2011, 09:50 AM
"Are Big Unions Corrupting America?!"

Fixed that thread title for you Megs.

megimoo
04-07-2011, 10:02 AM
"Are Big Unions Corrupting America?!"

Fixed that thread title for you Megs.Sounds better...thanks..

Apocalypse
04-07-2011, 10:07 AM
"Are Big Unions Corrupting America's Election Process !"

Sadly its not just the big unions. Its any major group with loads of cash. When politicians listen to those who fund their campaign more then those who vote for them, that is a corruption of the process.

Wei Wu Wei
04-07-2011, 10:10 AM
The entire idea that groups with loads of cash can rig the electoral process or buy politicians for their own personal gains at the expense of hard working Americans is also known as....


CLASS WARFARE

megimoo
04-07-2011, 10:13 AM
The entire idea that groups with loads of cash can rig the electoral process or buy politicians for their own personal gains at the expense of hard working Americans is also known as....


CLASS WARFAREMao,Is that you ?They told me you had passed !

Wei Wu Wei
04-07-2011, 10:16 AM
I'm suprised Class Warfare arguments are getting so popular here in CU. Especially with the Union stuff and Beck's focus on George Soros.

Yes keep telling me about how wealth influences the political system I've never heard this stuff before

Apocalypse
04-07-2011, 10:50 AM
The entire idea that groups with loads of cash can rig the electoral process or buy politicians for their own personal gains at the expense of hard working Americans is also known as....


CLASS WARFARE
There are so many flaws in this idea its not funny.

Wei, first groups with lots of cash don't "Rig" the electoral process. They may in terms "buy" a politician, but to 'rig' an election would indicate they are using that cash to make sure regardless of how voters vote, their candidate wins by cheating. That is called "Rigging" an election.

Second, not all groups with cash that partake in this do so for "Class Warfare", or at "The expense of hard working" voters.

Example.

NRA. One of the largest special interest groups. Their goals is not at the expense of workers. As most of their members are those people.

Planned Parent Hood/Pro Abortion. Another large group flush with cash that lobby. Are you trying to say these groups are doing their gig at the cost of the working class?

Unions. They fall under this category. Of groups with loads of cash that buy politicians.

NAACP. Another group with loads of cash that buy politicians.

I could go on and on.

Point is, its not just these groups against the workers, or class warfare in such a cut and dry manor.