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megimoo
04-07-2011, 10:00 AM
Feminists on campuses across the nation are NOW rallying in protest over a recent email written by a member of the Kappa Sigma fraternity at USC. In the email, the young man urges his fraternity to "take notes" about how to have sex with girls. In perhaps the most tasteless part of the missive, he boasts that he will refer to females as "targets” because they “aren't actual people like us men.”

According to a feminist (who teaches in my department) it is worth taking time out of class to condemn the young Kappa Sigma – particularly if you plan on talking about sexual assault. Why? Apparently, because he denies the personhood of women in order to rationalize casual sex and to treat women as sex objects. That sounds like a good argument but, unfortunately, it is one the feminists are morally unqualified to make. Why are they unqualified in this regard? Let me put this in BIG, bold, italicized letters so even the feminists in my department cannot ignore it:

THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE KILLING OF FIFTY MILLION INNOCENTS SINCE 1973. THEY HAVE JUSTIFIED ABORTION BY DENYING THE PERSONHOOD OF THE FETUS. THEIR PRINCIPAL MOTIVATION FOR DOING SO IS A DESIRE TO HAVE CASUAL SEX WITHOUT SUFFERING THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR SEXUAL CHOICES.

http://townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/2011/04/07/feminists_are_no_better_than_frat_boys

Wei Wu Wei
04-07-2011, 10:06 AM
THEY HAVE JUSTIFIED ABORTION BY DENYING THE PERSONHOOD OF THE FETUS.


Yes this is true.

I can argue why a woman is a Person in the full sense of the word, with all legal and moral rights and responsibilities that come with being a legal member of the moral community - AKA: a Person.

Whatever criteria you use to define Personhood (not human being, but Person, and there is a legal and medical difference between these two, as organ donation and life support issues highlight), you will see that a woman has all of them or at least all necessary to be considered a Person (consciousness, language, subjective experience of pain, self-awareness, a level of moral functioning, ect. ect.)

Now, does a Fetus have those things?

Under what definition of Person, does a Fetus have more claim to that title than a Woman does?
-I submit there are none.

If then, a Woman is always more of a Person than a fetus, then legally when the rights of both parties conflict, the rights of the Person supercede the rights of the Fetus.

The other way around would suggest that the Fetus has more rights than the Woman, or that the Fetus is more of a Person than the Woman is. Both of these conclusions are misogynistic and oppressive and make the legal claim that a Woman is less of a person than something without a sense of self.

megimoo
04-07-2011, 10:16 AM
Yes this is true.

I can argue why a woman is a Person in the full sense of the word, with all legal and moral rights and responsibilities that come with being a legal member of the moral community - AKA: a Person.

Whatever criteria you use to define Personhood (not human being, but Person, and there is a legal and medical difference between these two, as organ donation and life support issues highlight), you will see that a woman has all of them or at least all necessary to be considered a Person (consciousness, language, subjective experience of pain, self-awareness, a level of moral functioning, ect. ect.)

Now, does a Fetus have those things?

Under what definition of Person, does a Fetus have more claim to that title than a Woman does?
-I submit there are none.

If then, a Woman is always more of a Person than a fetus, then legally when the rights of both parties conflict, the rights of the Person supercede the rights of the Fetus.

The other way around would suggest that the Fetus has more rights than the Woman, or that the Fetus is more of a Person than the Woman is. Both of these conclusions are misogynistic and oppressive and make the legal claim that a Woman is less of a person than something without a sense of self.Go easy on the Ganja sweet lips !The day's just started .

KhrushchevsShoe
04-07-2011, 10:17 AM
Go easy on the Ganja sweet lips !The day's just started .

Anybody other than megimoo says this and its nowhere near as hilarious.

noonwitch
04-07-2011, 01:15 PM
Wow, it's great to know that at least one conservative columnist thinks that it is okay for frat boys to teach each other how to rape women because women have the right to terminate a pregnancy. That's pretty warped thinking on his part.

Madisonian
04-07-2011, 02:14 PM
Yes this is true.

I can argue why a woman is a Person in the full sense of the word, with all legal and moral rights and responsibilities that come with being a legal member of the moral community - AKA: a Person.

Whatever criteria you use to define Personhood (not human being, but Person, and there is a legal and medical difference between these two, as organ donation and life support issues highlight), you will see that a woman has all of them or at least all necessary to be considered a Person (consciousness, language, subjective experience of pain, self-awareness, a level of moral functioning, ect. ect.)

Now, does a Fetus have those things?

Under what definition of Person, does a Fetus have more claim to that title than a Woman does?
-I submit there are none.

If then, a Woman is always more of a Person than a fetus, then legally when the rights of both parties conflict, the rights of the Person supercede the rights of the Fetus.

The other way around would suggest that the Fetus has more rights than the Woman, or that the Fetus is more of a Person than the Woman is. Both of these conclusions are misogynistic and oppressive and make the legal claim that a Woman is less of a person than something without a sense of self.

Geez Wei, that is almost the same argument that Ayn Rand made in support of abortion.:D