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fettpett
04-07-2011, 04:20 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/119421429.html


Winnebago County vote-count change alters Supreme Court race
e-mail print By Sharif Durhams of the Journal Sentinel

The latest vote count in the state Supreme Court race in Winnebago County indicates incumbent David Prosser is leading Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg in votes.

A tally compiled by The Associated Press Wednesday and used by news organizations statewide, including the Journal Sentinel, indicated Kloppenburg was leading the race by 204 votes. Figures on Winnebago County's website are now different from those collected by the AP.

Winnebago County's numbers say Prosser received 20,701 votes to Kloppenburg's 18,887. The AP has 19,991 for Prosser to Kloppenburg's 18,421.

The new numbers would give Prosser 244 more votes, or a 40-vote lead statewide.

An editor at the AP said the news service became aware of the discrepancy in the past hour. The AP last checked figures with Winnebago County at 10:14 a.m. Wednesday, according to the AP. The county adjusted its figures at 2:27 p.m.

The latest numbers for Winnebago County are not official.

The news service is working to reach the Winnebago County clerk, but the clerk is participating in the canvass of the vote and has not returned a message.

Still going to be a recount, but it looks like Kloppenburg gave her victory speech a little early

ColonialMarine0431
04-07-2011, 04:30 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/119421429.html



Still going to be a recount, but it looks like Kloppenburg gave her victory speech a little early

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Plop-a-Turd ended up losing. :D

http://www.myptsmail.com/hotdog256/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/E868A_dewey_defeats_truman.jpg

fettpett
04-07-2011, 04:30 PM
actually, looks like it's 240 votes, clerical error in New Berlin

http://www.jsonline.com/news/waukesha/119424759.html


David Prosser picked up 200 votes in New Berlin after a clerical error was discovered, according to Pat Karcher, a member of the board of canvassers in Waukesha County. Karcher spoke during a break in the canvassers meeting. Check back to JSOnline.com for updates.

fettpett
04-07-2011, 04:31 PM
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Plop-a-Turd ended up losing. :D

http://www.myptsmail.com/hotdog256/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/E868A_dewey_defeats_truman.jpg

yep :D


There are still a lot of inconsistencies with the election

Apocalypse
04-07-2011, 04:51 PM
actually, looks like it's 240 votes, clerical error in New Berlin

http://www.jsonline.com/news/waukesha/119424759.html
Ahem...

RECOUNT!!!

THEY CHEATED!!!

I KNOW THEY CHEATED!!! WE WON FAIR AND SQUARE AND THEY ARE ONLY SORE LOSERS!!!!!!!!

ColonialMarine0431
04-07-2011, 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by DUmp members site wide
RECOUNT!!!

THEY CHEATED!!!

I KNOW THEY CHEATED!!! WE WON FAIR AND SQUARE AND THEY ARE ONLY SORE LOSERS!!!!!!!!


Right on cue! :D

Apocalypse
04-07-2011, 05:19 PM
Funnier, some sites discussing the fraud in this election, are now all blocked by facebook.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LFyfrJM-2f0/TZ02fgRdAlI/AAAAAAAAAi4/i7iLmbL_tyQ/s320/facebookblockwi.JPG (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LFyfrJM-2f0/TZ02fgRdAlI/AAAAAAAAAi4/i7iLmbL_tyQ/s1600/facebookblockwi.JPG)

http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/04/wisconsin-city-caught-destroying.html

Novaheart
04-07-2011, 05:39 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/119421429.html



Still going to be a recount, but it looks like Kloppenburg gave her victory speech a little early

SO does that mean the Republicans are cheating?

fettpett
04-07-2011, 05:47 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/264209/breaking-computer-error-gives-prosser-7381-more-votes-almost-certain-victory-christian



BREAKING: Computer Error Could Give Prosser 7,381 More Votes, Victory
April 7, 2011 5:29 P.M.
By Christian Schneider
After Tuesday night’s Wisconsin Supreme Court election, a computer error in heavily Republican Waukesha County failed to send election results for the entire City of Brookfield to the Associated Press. The error, revealed today, would give incumbent Supreme Court Justice David Prosser a net 7,381 votes against his challenger, attorney Joanne Kloppenburg. On Wednesday, Kloppenburg declared victory after the AP reported she finished the election with a 204-vote lead, out of nearly 1.5 million votes cast.

On election night, AP results showed a turnout of 110,000 voters in Waukesha County — well short of the 180,000 voters that turned out last November, and 42 percent of the county’s total turnout. By comparison, nearly 90 percent of Dane County voters who cast a ballot in November turned out to vote for Kloppenburg.

Prior to the election, Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus was heavily criticized for her decision to keep the county results on an antiquated personal computer, rather than upgrade to a new data system being utilized statewide. Nickolaus cited security concerns for keeping the data herself — yet when she reported the data, it did not include the City of Brookfield, whose residents cast nearly 14,000 votes.

Throughout the day Thursday, official canvass numbers flipped the lead back and forth between Prosser and Kloppenburg. While many believed a recount was inevitable, the addition of the Brookfield votes for Prosser could push the justice’s lead beyond the legal threshold that would trigger an automatic recount. Under state law, Kloppenburg could still ask for a recount up to three days after the official canvass, but would have to pay for it herself.

“Waukesha County officials have announced a press conference for 5:30 CST.”

More details as they become available.

fettpett
04-07-2011, 05:54 PM
SO does that mean the Republicans are cheating?

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

no, it means that the AP is full of crap with their reporting and that Kloppenburg counted her chicks before the eggs hatched.

Some are mistakes and stupid actions by county officers like the one in Brookfield that used her personal computer instead of the new system that was put in place. That doesn't discount all the irregularities that were associated with this race.

you haven't addressed anything that i posted in the other thread either.

there is now this from 620am

Sources: Major Shift in Supreme Court Race
Story Created: Apr 7, 2011
Story Updated: Apr 7, 2011
As county clerks around Wisconsin review their votes in the race for State Supreme Court Justice, we are learning there could be a major shift in the margin between the candidates.
Incumbent Justice David Prosser is locked in a very close race with challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg but according to sources, Prosser may be leading by a significant number of votes by the end of the day.
Newsradio 620 WTMJ's John Mercure reports, "I have been told that several thousand votes are currently unaccounted for and that the majority of them will end up going to David Prosser."
"We're not talking a couple hundred. We're not even talking a couple thousand. I have been told and confirmed through multiple sources that this is several thousand votes and it will completely and obviously change the dynamic."
Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus will hold a press conference at 5:30 this evening, perhaps pertaining to those reports.
Stay with Newsradio 620 WTMJ for the very latest.

http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/119430664.html

Novaheart
04-07-2011, 06:00 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

So, the liberals were able to funny 14,000 votes, but they weren't able to dump 8,000 votes.

You're funny.

Apocalypse
04-07-2011, 06:08 PM
Nova I'll give you Kudos for the first remark, but that last one... please try again.

We all know this will enrage the left and right even more and cause both sides to scream fraud and now both will bus lawyers from all over to canvass the state over this.

A judge election, normally not that big of a election. Almost as big as the Bush/Gore fight.

Novaheart
04-07-2011, 06:12 PM
Nova I'll give you Kudos for the first remark, but that last one... please try again.

We all know this will enrage the left and right even more and cause both sides to scream fraud and now both will bus lawyers from all over to canvass the state over this.

A judge election, normally not that big of a election. Almost as big as the Bush/Gore fight.

It's absolutely the greatest thing to happen in politics in a while. This election makes it very clear that justice is corrupted by ideology and that neither of these people should be allowed to be a judge.

Apocalypse
04-07-2011, 06:31 PM
It's absolutely the greatest thing to happen in politics in a while. This election makes it very clear that justice is corrupted by ideology and that neither of these people should be allowed to be a judge.
I'll give you half credit on that.

Posser said he would hear the merits of the case and the arguments of both sides, then review the law before making a decission.

Kloppenburg said she viewed the bill as illegal and would vote against it now before hearing the case or reviewing the law regarding it.

A judge is to be impartial, not forming a decision before, remaining open to both sides and hearing them out. Only one has said they will do it that way.

fettpett
04-07-2011, 06:31 PM
So, the liberals were able to funny 14,000 votes, but they weren't able to dump 8,000 votes.

You're funny.

:rolleyes:

two different counties. Dane County is a seething hot bed of liberalism, so is Milwaukee Co. And there is history of voter fraud in Milwaukee by Democrats

ColonialMarine0431
04-07-2011, 09:25 PM
The DUmmies must be positively apoplectic. :D

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/GIFS-Animated/221.gif


:D

Rockntractor
04-07-2011, 09:28 PM
I just found 15 votes for the lib in my goat pen!:confused:

Novaheart
04-07-2011, 09:46 PM
A judge is to be impartial, not forming a decision before, remaining open to both sides and hearing them out. Only one has said they will do it that way.

That's true of criminal and civil cases in which evidence is being presented. In judicial review, the law is in essence the only evidence. The arguments presented by the lawyers are pretty much window dressing and a way of telling the judges how you think they would be reversed by a higher court if they side against you.

malloc
04-08-2011, 12:57 AM
That's true of criminal and civil cases in which evidence is being presented. In judicial review, the law is in essence the only evidence. The arguments presented by the lawyers are pretty much window dressing and a way of telling the judges how you think they would be reversed by a higher court if they side against you.

This is only partially true. If you look at all the evidence and amicus curiae filed in the Heller cases, there was a lot of research done and effort expended examining the role of firearms going to back to English Law, and the intent of the founders when writing the Second Amendment. The D.C. Gun Ban and the Second Amendment were far from the only evidence. However, I said partially true, because the Heller decision was still split 5 to 4 along partisan lines, because progressives care little for historical basis in law, legislative intent, or a fixed body of law restraining the government, they care only for their personal agenda.

Constitutionally Speaking
04-08-2011, 04:42 AM
It's absolutely the greatest thing to happen in politics in a while. This election makes it very clear that justice is corrupted by ideology and that neither of these people should be allowed to be a judge.

I agree 100 % that justice is being corrupted by ideology, but this does not mean it is the fault of the two candidates.

Both were respected before the circus - and should be after the fight.

Justice should not be up to the whims of the political wind. There needs to be a buffer - much like state legislatures were supposed to appoint Senators in order to help secure our Senate as a more deliberative body that is less influenced by fleeting passions.


The Senate and Judges both should be seated in such a manner.

Novaheart
04-08-2011, 01:18 PM
This is only partially true. If you look at all the evidence and amicus curiae filed in the Heller cases, there was a lot of research done and effort expended examining the role of firearms going to back to English Law, and the intent of the founders when writing the Second Amendment. The D.C. Gun Ban and the Second Amendment were far from the only evidence. However, I said partially true, because the Heller decision was still split 5 to 4 along partisan lines, because progressives care little for historical basis in law, legislative intent, or a fixed body of law restraining the government, they care only for their personal agenda.



There is a huge and ongoing disagreement in this country over the meaning of strict construction.

And people are dishonest in their positions. The same people who want you to use your brain to figure out that the Founding Fathers meant for the 2nd Amendment to be an individual right to keep and carry without restriction will turn around and on another day demand that you take the most simple minded approach to the concepts of liberty, demanding to see the word "homosexual" or some nonsense in the Constitution. You cannot have it both ways. You can't argue that there is an underlying principle supporting one position, and then demand specific wording on another.

Now we have liberals claiming that the 14th Amendment "clearly" makes anchor babies citizens, even though it makes no sense that it would or that the Congress intended it to. But they are standing by the simple read of the words.

I have long said that if all it takes to understand the Constitution is the ability to read it, then we can put Third Graders on the Supreme Court.

Articulate_Ape
04-08-2011, 01:45 PM
There is a huge and ongoing disagreement in this country over the meaning of strict construction.

And people are dishonest in their positions. The same people who want you to use your brain to figure out that the Founding Fathers meant for the 2nd Amendment to be an individual right to keep and carry without restriction will turn around and on another day demand that you take the most simple minded approach to the concepts of liberty, demanding to see the word "homosexual" or some nonsense in the Constitution. You cannot have it both ways. You can't argue that there is an underlying principle supporting one position, and then demand specific wording on another.

Now we have liberals claiming that the 14th Amendment "clearly" makes anchor babies citizens, even though it makes no sense that it would or that the Congress intended it to. But they are standing by the simple read of the words.

I have long said that if all it takes to understand the Constitution is the ability to read it, then we can put Third Graders on the Supreme Court.

What's to interpret in either of these?


Amendment II:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

One would either not be able to read plain English or have a jaundiced eye to not understand the very clear intent in both.

txradioguy
04-08-2011, 01:52 PM
What's to interpret in either of these?


One would either not be able to read plain English or have a jaundiced eye to not understand the very clear intent in both.


When you live in the world the Libtards do...it's quite confusing.

All their life they are told there are no absolutes...no black and white...only millions of shades of gray.

So when you present them with the facts as you did above...it hurts their pointy heads.