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NJCardFan
04-09-2011, 12:17 AM
And the Republicans folded up like a cheap tent:

US Congress agrees last-minute budget


Republicans and Democrats have reached a deal on the US budget, an hour before a deadline that would have forced the government to close many services.

They are now working on a stop-gap spending bill which will allow the government to keep running while the wider budget plan is finalised.

The parties have agreed to slash about $38bn (24bn) from spending for the year until 30 September.

Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13022575)

MountainMan
04-09-2011, 12:24 AM
No, the republicans didn't fold like a cheap tent. They got what they could get in a divided government including a ban on federal dollars for use in the District regarding abortions.

Anti-abortion lawmakers succeeded in winning a provision to ban the use of federal or local government funds to pay for abortions in the District of Columbia Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_spending_showdown)

Is it everything we wanted, no. However, we are in a better position now for the debt ceiling fight AND Paul Ryans budget proposal.

Rockntractor
04-09-2011, 12:33 AM
I wonder if they swallowed?:rolleyes:

MountainMan
04-09-2011, 12:34 AM
I wonder if they swallowed?:rolleyes:

Oh for fucks sake... :rolleyes:

NJCardFan
04-09-2011, 12:41 AM
The Republicans wanted $60 Billion. The Dems wanted $30 billion. They settled on $38 billion. Who won?

Rockntractor
04-09-2011, 12:44 AM
The Republicans wanted $60 Billion. The Dems wanted $30 billion. They settled on $38 billion. Who won?

The American people lost. The spin masters begin.

lacarnut
04-09-2011, 12:51 AM
If it were not for the troops losing a portion of their pay, I would say shut er down. I could not vote to do that. The Democrats had us over a barrel. Hopefully, a bill will be passed to avert that the next time around.

Odysseus
04-09-2011, 12:52 AM
Well, at least Obama will have to pay the troops. That's probably galling him.

Rockntractor
04-09-2011, 01:01 AM
They couldn't get a few billion but hey the trillions in the next round will be gravy.

Articulate_Ape
04-09-2011, 01:02 AM
It really doesn't matter because we are headed for default unless drastic measures are taken. When that happens, it all gets defunded; all of it. All they did is inject more morphine into the festering wound. The time for having a choice in the matter will soon be at an end.

Rockntractor
04-09-2011, 01:05 AM
One thing you will notice is the lib trolls would be crying a river in this thread if they thought they got a bad deal.

MountainMan
04-09-2011, 01:09 AM
The Republicans wanted $60 Billion. The Dems wanted $30 billion. They settled on $38 billion. Who won?

Obama wanted 100bil more for the whole fiscal year of 2010-2011. He got much much less. He lost.

MountainMan
04-09-2011, 01:18 AM
One thing you will notice is the lib trolls would be crying a river in this thread if they thought they got a bad deal.

Take a look over at the DUmp..... They are NOT happy with this.
andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr-08-11 11:27 PM
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14. Cutting this much could not be good news

Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 11:42 PM by andym
Remember when people were complaining that Obama's budget was damaging to the poor (e.g., the heating oil problem)

For example, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/13/obama-budget-p...

Well, the amount of cuts that will be included are going to do a LOT more damage than the budget that many were complaining about. That's because significantly more money will be cut, and that money has to come from somewhere. The military is not likely to be included, because the GOP would never agree. That leaves social programs, government services, research, and regulatory compliance.


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17. and so the war machine will continue to roll on....

with NO cuts to where they should be made. More unwilling and unneeded sacrifices of the people for the sake of US global imperialism.


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21. I was impressed when Obama patted himself on the back for signing the tax cuts. And Reid praised the

President of the Chamber of Commerce.

Traitors both. Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4806950)

Folks, this wasn't the real fight. The real fighting starts in May with the debt ceiling debate.

malloc
04-09-2011, 01:32 AM
The cuts weren't enough, but I'm not clear on what kind of choice House Republicans had. If the government had shut down, the biggest loser would have been Obama, that much is clear. He's looked like more of an idiot than usual these past couple days. The loser in Congress was a toss up though. That would depend on spin, media, and political stunts.

The Republicans getting cuts pushed through, with their riders, after the Dems said, 'No way, not gonna happen', makes this a win for Republicans among independent voters. Of course the media and socialist sympathizers will try to spin this as a 'save' for Obama/Reid.

The biggest determination, of how much the Republicans "won" will be in the amount of riders on the bill. If the Republicans got their NPR & EPA defunding measures through and the like, they would have shown the Obama Administration that it needs to start singing for its supper. If not, then Bohner's gots some 'splainin to do to the Tea Party.

As for these DUmmie libtards, a $38Bn cut would be < 2% of the budget, the Government would still have plenty more money to spend on bullshit programs than they had in 2008. No one is going to suffer because of these cuts, and if they do, then it's because someone running their bullshit program isn't trying hard enough. It's easy to be lazy, wasteful, and inefficient when you are spending the taxpayer's money rather than trying to turn a buck.

malloc
04-09-2011, 01:41 AM
I just read over at the DC that some these policy riders weren't included in the Bill, but what was included was a deal that guarantees an up or down vote on a lot things in the Senate, including repealing Obamacare, defunding Planned Parenthood, etc. etc..

These votes will probably all fail, but if the Democrats vote the way we expect them to do on these issues, like not repealing Obamacare, we are going to have a Senate full of Republicans in 2012 to pass all these things the Democrats are guaranteeing an up or down vote on.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/08/boehner-pitches-39-billion-deal-with-limited-policy-riders/

This is, which is included in the bill is one of my favorites.



Other riders included in the deal include lower funding for the IRS to implement Obamacare and a series of studies that will examine the law’s impacts in more detail. One provision provides for a “full audit” of the Obamacare waivers provided to companies and unions.

Rockntractor
04-09-2011, 01:46 AM
This proves to me that very very few people have any idea just how much trouble we are in.

Articulate_Ape; It really doesn't matter because we are headed for default unless drastic measures are taken. When that happens, it all gets defunded; all of it. All they did is inject more morphine into the festering wound. The time for having a choice in the matter will soon be at an end.
Your'e right it won't stop until they cut the card up at the cash register!

lacarnut
04-09-2011, 03:36 AM
I just read over at the DC that some these policy riders weren't included in the Bill, but what was included was a deal that guarantees an up or down vote on a lot things in the Senate, including repealing Obamacare, defunding Planned Parenthood, etc. etc..

These votes will probably all fail, but if the Democrats vote the way we expect them to do on these issues, like not repealing Obamacare, we are going to have a Senate full of Republicans in 2012 to pass all these things the Democrats are guaranteeing an up or down vote on.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/08/boehner-pitches-39-billion-deal-with-limited-policy-riders/

This is, which is included in the bill is one of my favorites.

I am not so sure that dirty Harry will not stiff Repubs on an up and down vote on Obamacare. There are more than 20 Democratic Senators up for re-election and most of them know that a yes vote for this dog will be toxic to getting re-elected. Like one Democratic dunce said when asked why a budget was not passed months ago he responded, we just did not have the time. I think that will happen with a proposed vote on Obamacare.

malloc
04-09-2011, 05:08 AM
I am not so sure that dirty Harry will not stiff Repubs on an up and down vote on Obamacare. There are more than 20 Democratic Senators up for re-election and most of them know that a yes vote for this dog will be toxic to getting re-elected. Like one Democratic dunce said when asked why a budget was not passed months ago he responded, we just did not have the time. I think that will happen with a proposed vote on Obamacare.

I wouldn't put it past them. I hope House Republicans can management to get statutory language in the bill mandating the up or down vote on the repeal by a certain day, plenty of time before elections. That way if it does pass, it will force Obama to veto it before the 2012 Presidential Elections. If Democrats believe they are serving the American people with Obamacare they should stand up for that belief.

KhrushchevsShoe
04-09-2011, 06:46 AM
The people who won: Democrats, Republicans and the people who own our politicians. The establishment with another rousing victory!

The people who lost: Everyone else, no meaningful progress on either making the cuts or correcting the tax code (or both) means we keep footing the bill in our standard of living for government sponsored handouts to the rich.

Of course it came down to abortion, an issue that every powerful person in this country who is fucking us doesn't give two shits about. Honestly, a meaningful budget issue that has even the potential of canceling oil subsidies or reforming how the government just hands out contracts to whoever theyre best buds with always seems to come down to abortion. They must think were all stupid...

txradioguy
04-09-2011, 08:19 AM
The people who won: Democrats, Republicans and the people who own our politicians. The establishment with another rousing victory!

The people who lost: Everyone else, no meaningful progress on either making the cuts or correcting the tax code (or both) means we keep footing the bill in our standard of living for government sponsored handouts to the rich.

Of course it came down to abortion, an issue that every powerful person in this country who is fucking us doesn't give two shits about. Honestly, a meaningful budget issue that has even the potential of canceling oil subsidies or reforming how the government just hands out contracts to whoever theyre best buds with always seems to come down to abortion. They must think were all stupid...


And to think...if your Communist brothers and sisters in Congress had only passed a budget when they were supposed to...

FlaGator
04-09-2011, 08:46 AM
I haven't examined the details of the bill but a reading of the summaries lead me to believe that this is a good start considering that the Senate and the Presidency are still in the hands of the liberals. How successful this will all be will depend on the next couple of budgets. As long as the cuts keep coming things will look better.

KhrushchevsShoe
04-09-2011, 10:35 AM
And to think...if your Communist brothers and sisters in Congress had only passed a budget when they were supposed to...

Would've been the same damn thing. They cut less than .3% of the budget, it was nothing. They did it because both parties realized that at least having some cuts would please the republican base and avoiding government shutdown would keep the democrats base in tact. Once it was clear that passing a budget could be politically beneficial for both the Republicans and Democrats it was just a matter of time before this whole crises was averted.

All that was left to do was make sure they couldn't cut spending that would adversely affect their corporate overlords (abortion is great for that by the way), and they could present to America their new budget.

NJCardFan
04-09-2011, 11:36 AM
The people who won: Democrats, Republicans and the people who own our politicians. The establishment with another rousing victory!

The people who lost: Everyone else, no meaningful progress on either making the cuts or correcting the tax code (or both) means we keep footing the bill in our standard of living for government sponsored handouts to the rich.

Of course it came down to abortion, an issue that every powerful person in this country who is fucking us doesn't give two shits about. Honestly, a meaningful budget issue that has even the potential of canceling oil subsidies or reforming how the government just hands out contracts to whoever theyre best buds with always seems to come down to abortion. They must think were all stupid...

So what you're saying is that the government cuts checks to the rich? :rolleyes: It amazes me how idiots like you equate allowing people to keep the money that they earn a "handout".

AmPat
04-09-2011, 11:50 AM
This was a political stunt that O Blah Blah and his minions put the American people into. They will pull this Kabuki theater and wail like bitches every single time it comes up. Their bald faced lies (Smucky Shumer and Nancy Peelousy), will be dutifully reported by their media legions with the full force of long sad faces. Expect moaning and hand wringing by these ignorant pieces of filth trying to convince you that women, babies, and old people will die and be stacked like cord wood by the hundreds of thousands along our highways.
The left leaning idiots among us will defend this drama as though it were the truth.

The real truth is that if we don't immediately stop spending, roll it back to year 2000 spending or less, we will break the bank. None of the LIEberal's favorite giveaway programs will be funded at even the minimum. There will be NO MONEY LIEberals.

You cannot continue to spend and print money. Learn the basics of finance and economics.
I am reminded of Margret Thatcher's quote:
"The problem with liberalism is eventually you run out of other people's money."

KhrushchevsShoe
04-09-2011, 12:48 PM
So what you're saying is that the government cuts checks to the rich? :rolleyes: It amazes me how idiots like you equate allowing people to keep the money that they earn a "handout".
This government is By, For and In Defense of the rich. Nowhere else in the world do they have it as good as they do here. They get to plunder our retirement, de-regulate their own industries (that one in particular blows my mind), legally evade paying taxes on their income and the government hands out no-bid contracts to them like candy.

The money that they earn, what a crock. Its money they've skimmed off the top of not raising wages in 30 years.

KhrushchevsShoe
04-09-2011, 12:49 PM
You cannot continue to spend and print money. Learn the basics of finance and economics.
I am reminded of Margret Thatcher's quote:
"The problem with liberalism is eventually you run out of other people's money."

In the United Kingdom the word liberal often means something very different. I believe she's talking about complete free trade between states. Or something, the wretched old thing was crazy.

AmPat
04-09-2011, 01:17 PM
In the United Kingdom the word liberal often means something very different. I believe she's talking about complete free trade between states. Or something, the wretched old thing was crazy.

Please bring facts and value to the table. Until then, get back to the kiddie table and eat your vegetables.:rolleyes:

SaintLouieWoman
04-09-2011, 04:54 PM
The Republicans wanted $60 Billion. The Dems wanted $30 billion. They settled on $38 billion. Who won?
It wsn't the Republicans nor the American people. Boehner needs to get a stiffer spine. I'd rather have Paul Ryan as Speaker. This really ticks me off.

SaintLouieWoman
04-09-2011, 04:56 PM
Take a look over at the DUmp..... They are NOT happy with this.



Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4806950)

Folks, this wasn't the real fight. The real fighting starts in May with the debt ceiling debate.
They're never happy, so what's new?

Rockntractor
04-09-2011, 04:57 PM
It wsn't the Republicans nor the American people. Boehner needs to get a stiffer spine. I'd rather have Paul Ryan as Speaker. This really ticks me off.

I agree, I feel we gained nothing and I don't expect much out of them in the future.
It is almost like the Dems picked Boehner for us.

SaintLouieWoman
04-09-2011, 05:01 PM
I agree, I feel we gained nothing and I don't expect much out of them in the future.
It is almost like the Dems picked Boehner for us.
Nah, we were stupid and picked him ourselves. It was a gift to the Dems. :rolleyes:

marinejcksn
04-09-2011, 05:19 PM
And crybaby Boner once again shows why he's the Speaker of the Wet Your Pants party. What a joke.

fettpett
04-09-2011, 05:33 PM
Nah, we were stupid and picked him ourselves. It was a gift to the Dems. :rolleyes:

at lest on the bright side, he may have worked himself right out of the job.

Rockntractor
04-09-2011, 05:38 PM
at lest on the bright side, he may have worked himself right out of the job.

There are still some Repub-lites out there that think he accomplished something with his .3% budget reduction. I'm too stupid to understand the spin so I see it as almost nothing!

fettpett
04-09-2011, 06:38 PM
There are still some Repub-lites out there that think he accomplished something with his .3% budget reduction. I'm too stupid to understand the spin so I see it as almost nothing!

it's something like this:
http://i52.tinypic.com/sx0n86.png

Rockntractor
04-09-2011, 06:47 PM
it's something like this:

From now on I call them .3 percenters.

Bubba Dawg
04-09-2011, 06:53 PM
it's something like this:
http://i52.tinypic.com/sx0n86.png

Nice.

malloc
04-09-2011, 07:33 PM
From now on I call them .3 percenters.

The cuts were more like 1.6%. However, didn't each stopgap measure passed have it's own set of cuts, separate from the budget deal? I wonder what the total from each measure added up to?

PoliCon
04-09-2011, 07:54 PM
Folks, this wasn't the real fight. The real fighting starts in May with the debt ceiling debate.Right. The left will push hard for us to raise the debt ceiling again and we have to push back even harder that it NOT be raised. I for one am already calling all my congress critters about that and making it clear that anyone who votes to raise the debt ceiling again is declaring war on me and my wallet and I will be fighting back.

I for one am glad of any cuts - I would of course prefer deeper cuts - but I'll take what I can get when I can get it. The fight is not over and we can push for more cuts all the time.

Rockntractor
04-09-2011, 07:57 PM
The cuts were more like 1.6%. However, didn't each stopgap measure passed have it's own set of cuts, separate from the budget deal? I wonder what the total from each measure added up to?

Good question, I couldn't find a number.

PoliCon
04-09-2011, 08:02 PM
The people who won: Democrats, Republicans and the people who own our politicians. The establishment with another rousing victory!

The people who lost: Everyone else, no meaningful progress on either making the cuts or correcting the tax code (or both) means we keep footing the bill in our standard of living for government sponsored handouts to the rich.

Of course it came down to abortion, an issue that every powerful person in this country who is fucking us doesn't give two shits about. Honestly, a meaningful budget issue that has even the potential of canceling oil subsidies or reforming how the government just hands out contracts to whoever theyre best buds with always seems to come down to abortion. They must think were all stupid...

you had best hope that you and I do not meet face to face because if we did and you made just one of these idiotic class warfare comment about handouts to the rich I cannot guarantee you that you would still be standing after you said it.

PoliCon
04-09-2011, 08:07 PM
and lets not forget that government almost always expands. The fact that there are cuts at all is a victory in my opinion. Remember how draconian the left painted Reagan's "cuts" in the 80s and all he managed to get was cuts in the rate of growth. :(

KhrushchevsShoe
04-09-2011, 09:38 PM
you had best hope that you and I do not meet face to face because if we did and you made just one of these idiotic class warfare comment about handouts to the rich I cannot guarantee you that you would still be standing after you said it.

Ummm... what? You gonna stand up for your corporate overlords in a physical altercation? People who couldn't care less about you at all?

That's the most brainwashed Hitler Youth-esque thing I've seen on this board.

hazlnut
04-09-2011, 10:01 PM
No, the republicans didn't fold like a cheap tent. They got what they could get in a divided government including a ban on federal dollars for use in the District regarding abortions.


So, when child poverty, crime, and welfare goes up in the district, are they going to pay?

PoliCon
04-09-2011, 10:15 PM
Ummm... what? You gonna stand up for your corporate overlords in a physical altercation? People who couldn't care less about you at all?

That's the most brainwashed Hitler Youth-esque thing I've seen on this board.

You really make me want to support certain aspects of eugenics. Every conversation I have with you make me believe more and more that there really are some people who should be prevented from breeding.

PoliCon
04-09-2011, 10:16 PM
So, when child poverty, crime, and welfare goes up in the district, are they going to pay?

There you go again - blaming others for the inability of people to fucking control themselves. :rolleyes:

MountainMan
04-09-2011, 11:24 PM
So, when child poverty, crime, and welfare goes up in the district, are they going to pay?

Here is proof right here the left is racist. Everyone knows that the majority population (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/11000.html) in the District of Columbia is predominately black American. We also know that Planned UnParenthood is the number one abortion provider to that community.

What you just suggested was that we should fund Planned UnParenthood so they can continue to abort black babies because YOU THINK they will either end up in poverty, commit crime or get on welfare.

Supercrash, you are a fucking racist pig. Thank you for showing that to everyone here.

Zathras
04-09-2011, 11:40 PM
So, when child poverty, crime, and welfare goes up in the district, are they going to pay?

Well, maybe if you'd take care of your family and kids they wouldn't have that problem.

Articulate_Ape
04-10-2011, 12:46 AM
you had best hope that you and I do not meet face to face because if we did and you made just one of these idiotic class warfare comment about handouts to the rich I cannot guarantee you that you would still be standing after you said it.

This is an epic in the making. The Shoemaker and the Elf: The Final Conflict. Soles will be lost! Coming Soon! Summer 2011.

txradioguy
04-10-2011, 01:45 AM
Would've been the same damn thing. They cut less than .3% of the budget, it was nothing. They did it because both parties realized that at least having some cuts would please the republican base and avoiding government shutdown would keep the democrats base in tact. Once it was clear that passing a budget could be politically beneficial for both the Republicans and Democrats it was just a matter of time before this whole crises was averted.

All that was left to do was make sure they couldn't cut spending that would adversely affect their corporate overlords (abortion is great for that by the way), and they could present to America their new budget.

Wow...Obtuse much?

Or are you purposely ignoring the point I was making?

NJCardFan
04-10-2011, 01:47 AM
So, when child poverty, crime, and welfare goes up in the district, are they going to pay?

You are a cocksucking know nothing coward. Go crawl back into your hole.

And Khrushchev'sCock, please explain to me how allowing someone to keep more of what they earn is a handout? Please explain that backward logic.

txradioguy
04-10-2011, 01:49 AM
So, when child poverty, crime, and welfare goes up in the district, are they going to pay?


It's already the highest in all the above in the nation, D.C. Not to mention government corruption and graft.

Your point?


The District government is a microcasm of everything that's wrong wtih how the Feds currently run things.

KhrushchevsShoe
04-10-2011, 07:23 AM
You are a cocksucking know nothing coward. Go crawl back into your hole.

And Khrushchev'sCock, please explain to me how allowing someone to keep more of what they earn is a handout? Please explain that backward logic.

A no-bid contract is a handout. There is no way around that.

txradioguy
04-10-2011, 07:57 AM
A no-bid contract is a handout. There is no way around that.

So you were against them when they were going on from 1993-2001?

linda22003
04-10-2011, 08:08 AM
It's already the highest in all the above in the nation, D.C. Not to mention government corruption and graft.

Your point?


The District government is a microcasm of everything that's wrong wtih how the Feds currently run things.

Highest crime rate is St. Louis. Washington DC is #22.

http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2010/City_crime_rate_2010-2011_hightolow.pdf

DC shares a child poverty rate of over 25% with Arkansas, Kentucky, New Mexico, and everyone's favorite bad record holder, Mississippi.

http://www.nccp.org/publications/images/apc11-fig2.png

txradioguy
04-10-2011, 08:12 AM
Let's look at the facts:

House Speaker John Boehner won more cuts than he originally sought and got the Senate to agree to votes to defund the health care reform law and groups like the nation's largest abortion provider Planned Parenthood - once votes Senate Majority leader Harry Reid said he'd never allow to come to the floor.Back on February 3, Reid called $32 billion in cuts "extreme" and "draconian."

Democrats first offered no cuts, then $4 billion, then $6.5 billion, then $33 billion, then settled at $38.5 billion.

Boehner made numerous adjustments to his offer in recent days too, but started at $32 billion, then with a Tea Party push went to $62 billion, then dropped to $40 billion, then $38.5 billion.

Democrats claimed they met Republicans halfway after the $10 billion in cuts that already passed this year were approved. They settled late Friday night at three and a half times more.

Boehner came in $8.5 billion higher than the halfway point between his high offer of $61 billion in cuts and the Democrats opening bid of zero cuts.

There are more cuts to some and there is Ryan's budget proposal.

This 100%'er crap will do nothing but serve to fracture the party and give the Libtards what they want which is Obama for another four years.

This is a positive step for everyone concerned.

People have to learn to look at the bright side of things. This was a win for Conservatives and America.

AmPat
04-10-2011, 10:04 AM
Yes Tex, it was a win.It is a win in a minor battle to a major war. We must cut in the trillions to get our country healthy. Billions eventually become trillions, but the GOP will not get to fight a prolonged war. The voters want the GOP to lead. Since O Blah Blah wont lead and the DIMS are incompetent, the GOP is the nation's only hope.

txradioguy
04-10-2011, 10:16 AM
Yes Tex, it was a win.It is a win in a minor battle to a major war. We must cut in the trillions to get our country healthy. Billions eventually become trillions, but the GOP will not get to fight a prolonged war. The voters want the GOP to lead. Since O Blah Blah wont lead and the DIMS are incompetent, the GOP is the nation's only hope.

Well Ryan is certainly doing that for us. With his tax code reforms and his other proposals.

He's throwing down the Gauntlet and daring the President and the Dems to come up wiht something equal to or better than what he's proposed.

Right now Republicans ar clearly showing some spine and showing they are the ones with an actual plan.

PoliCon
04-10-2011, 10:27 AM
A no-bid contract is a handout. There is no way around that.

FFS. :rolleyes: You know why huge businesses like Halliburton get no bid contracts? Because they're the only ones who can do the fucking job you idiot. :rolleyes:

PoliCon
04-10-2011, 10:28 AM
So you were against them when they were going on from 1993-2001?

No of course not. It's always different when a democrat is in the white house. :rolleyes:

PoliCon
04-10-2011, 10:30 AM
Let's look at the facts:

House Speaker John Boehner won more cuts than he originally sought and got the Senate to agree to votes to defund the health care reform law and groups like the nation's largest abortion provider Planned Parenthood - once votes Senate Majority leader Harry Reid said he'd never allow to come to the floor.Back on February 3, Reid called $32 billion in cuts "extreme" and "draconian."

Democrats first offered no cuts, then $4 billion, then $6.5 billion, then $33 billion, then settled at $38.5 billion.

Boehner made numerous adjustments to his offer in recent days too, but started at $32 billion, then with a Tea Party push went to $62 billion, then dropped to $40 billion, then $38.5 billion.

Democrats claimed they met Republicans halfway after the $10 billion in cuts that already passed this year were approved. They settled late Friday night at three and a half times more.

Boehner came in $8.5 billion higher than the halfway point between his high offer of $61 billion in cuts and the Democrats opening bid of zero cuts.

There are more cuts to some and there is Ryan's budget proposal.

This 100%'er crap will do nothing but serve to fracture the party and give the Libtards what they want which is Obama for another four years.

This is a positive step for everyone concerned.

People have to learn to look at the bright side of things. This was a win for Conservatives and America.And lets not forget we got those cuts with the dems in control of senate and the white house and the press.

AmPat
04-10-2011, 10:32 AM
FFS. :rolleyes: You know why huge businesses like Halliburton get no bid contracts? Because they're the only ones who can do the fucking job you idiot. :rolleyes:

The truth must never be used in a conversation with liberal idiots. You know it is unkind to the lesser among us to embarrass them in public?

The left still believe in this idiotic meme and cannot be deterred from following it blindly. If a bid had been openly issued there would have only been one valid bid. The libbertards believe the rest of America is as stupid as they are and believe it is an issue to exploit.

Yes it is stupid but we are talking about DUmmies.:cool:

PoliCon
04-10-2011, 10:37 AM
The truth must never be used in a conversation with liberal idiots. You know it is unkind to the lesser among us to embarrass them in public?

The left still believe in this idiotic meme and cannot be deterred from following it blindly. If a bid had been openly issued there would have only been one valid bid. The libbertards believe the rest of America is as stupid as they are and believe it is an issue to exploit.

Yes it is stupid but we are talking about DUmmies.:cool:

what makes it even more stupid is halliburton is own by democrats. :rolleyes:

Odysseus
04-10-2011, 11:57 AM
So, when child poverty, crime, and welfare goes up in the district, are they going to pay?

So, your contention is that by aborting black babies, we reduce poverty, crime and welfare? Do you always associate poverty, crime and welfare with black areas? This, BTW, is the basis of Margaret Sanger's "Negro Project", a deliberate effort to reduce the population of what she considered ethnically undesirable people. Still, it's nice to know that progressives are still a racist as they were when Woodrow Wilson segregated DC and vetoed anti-lynching laws.

linda22003
04-10-2011, 01:54 PM
Well Ryan is certainly doing that for us. With his tax code reforms and his other proposals.

He's throwing down the Gauntlet and daring the President and the Dems to come up wiht something equal to or better than what he's proposed.

Right now Republicans ar clearly showing some spine and showing they are the ones with an actual plan.

Absolutely true. And Ryan appears to great advantage on the talk shows and anywhere he is publicly presenting the plan.