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megimoo
04-17-2011, 09:31 AM
President Obama well may have begun another undeclared war -- this time on states that try to enforce their own death penalty laws -- on the dubious grounds that the Food and Drug Administration has not approved drugs intended to kill convicted killers.

On March 15, the Drug Enforcement Administration seized Georgia's supply of sodium thiopental, the first drug given under the three-drug lethal injection protocol used in most of the country's 34 death-penalty states.
Why? The DEA referred me to the Department of Justice, which sent an e-mail declining to comment. News reports indicate that the feds had concerns that the drugs were imported improperly.

In the meantime, defense attorneys for convicted killers have been happy to chat with the press about what they call the illegal purchase of the drug. They never give up. First, international death penalty opponents blocked foreign manufacture of lethal injection drugs. Then, they put so much pressure on the industry that U.S. manufacturer Hospira stopped making it. As the supply dried up, states scrambled to get remaining doses and turned to a British wholesaler. That created another opening.

http://townhall.com/columnists/debrajsaunders/2011/04/17/department_of_obstruction_of_justice

Madisonian
04-17-2011, 10:30 AM
If the drugs are such a concern, we could go back to the old fashioned way.
.223 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 7.62 NATO - about 30 to 50 cents each and available at your local sporting goods store.
Rope, cheap and available at any hardware store, Wal Mart, Sam's Club, or KMart.

PoliCon
04-17-2011, 06:50 PM
Time to go back to hanging.

Odysseus
04-17-2011, 08:28 PM
If the drugs are such a concern, we could go back to the old fashioned way.
.223 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 7.62 NATO - about 30 to 50 cents each and available at your local sporting goods store.
Rope, cheap and available at any hardware store, Wal Mart, Sam's Club, or KMart.

The ropes will have to be nylon, to avoid the laws against growing hemp. But I don't see an issue with that.

Rockntractor
04-17-2011, 08:49 PM
The ropes will have to be nylon, to avoid the laws against growing hemp. But I don't see an issue with that.

There is a movement that says plastic is toxic.

Madisonian
04-17-2011, 08:57 PM
100% cotton rope (http://www.knotandrope.com/store/pc/1-inch-diameter-cotton-p132.htm)

100% natural, non-toxic and hypo-allergenic.
Available from 3/16 to 1 inch diameter.

They also have manila rope up to 2 inch diameter with a 27,000 break strength. although that would be a bit harsher on the neck and could cause rope burns.

Rockntractor
04-17-2011, 09:28 PM
100% cotton rope (http://www.knotandrope.com/store/pc/1-inch-diameter-cotton-p132.htm)

100% natural, non-toxic and hypo-allergenic.
Available from 3/16 to 1 inch diameter.

They also have manila rope up to 2 inch diameter with a 27,000 break strength. although that would be a bit harsher on the neck and could cause rope burns.

Is it organically grown. Trace pesticides are dangerous you know.

pyackog
04-17-2011, 09:47 PM
Is it organically grown. Trace pesticides are dangerous you know.

And are all components made/grown in the USA. The UN will complain if we import materials to kill!!

Odysseus
04-17-2011, 10:11 PM
There is a movement that says plastic is toxic.
True. We mustn't exposed the condemned to anything that could cause cancer decades after their execution. Wouldn't be humane.

Is it organically grown. Trace pesticides are dangerous you know.
Point taken. Organically grown, completely natural, no toxicity. What's not to like?

And are all components made/grown in the USA. The UN will complain if we import materials to kill!!
Also a good point. I think that you're going to fit right in here. :D

Madisonian
04-17-2011, 10:30 PM
From the supplier site...


IMPORTANT NOTE REGARDING COTTON AVAILABILITY.....

As many of you know, the supply of cotton fibers has become increasingly constrained over the past few months. We continue to make every effort maintain our supply of the best cotton yarns possible, however sometimes the open market just doesn't have enough supply for our needs.

Therefore, you may see variations in cotton fiber color from size to size. This is because different production runs may be using different color tones of cotton depending on what is provided to our mill.

The photo you see above may or may not be exactly like the rope you get. If anything, the cotton color tone might be a touch darker.

Basically the situation is that poor weather conditions in India (mostly flooding) has wiped out a lot of cotton crops that typically get sold to China. Because China doesn't have this incoming supply, they purchase from the USA at higher than normal prices, which takes the fibers we normally use, and drives up the price around the globe. These prices affect the whole spectrum of cotton products from clothes to .....cotton rope.

Thanks for being patient with us and we look forward to getting back to a more consistent supply soon.

It looks like they use US cotton but the Chinese are buying up the market.

Think rope futures would be a good investment?

fettpett
04-17-2011, 11:54 PM
um...sounds like a good time to relax the laws on agricultural/industrial hemp production :D

Odysseus
04-18-2011, 03:46 PM
From the supplier site...

It looks like they use US cotton but the Chinese are buying up the market.

Think rope futures would be a good investment?

It means that Lenin was right about capitalists selling the ropes that communists would hang us with!:eek: