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megimoo
04-28-2011, 05:31 AM
The most mysterious president in modern time..has more 'splaining to do.

Barack Hussein Obama II was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. For over two years, the president has resisted pressure to divulge this simple biographical information, which proves he’s a natural-born citizen. The belated White House release of the “long form” birth certificate answers one constitutional issue, but a host of other questions remains about the most mysterious president in modern history.

Mr. Obama’s hostility to openness drives the public’s curiosity about the most basic facts of his life. For example, he has refused to release his college and law-school transcripts, information recent presidential candidates have openly shown the public despite some embarrassment over decades-old bad grades. What is there for this president to hide? Maybe he flunked government classes or got busted for dope. He has openly discussed his past drug use, but is there more to it? Secrecy breeds speculation.

The list of hidden Obama documents includes medical records from his annual physical - which other presidents have made public - and first lady Michelle Obama’s law-firm records. Is she covering up a Hillary Clinton-type Whitewater case? Who knows. Perhaps the biggest secret in the Obama administration: What is the president’s golf handicap? He’s played 65 rounds in two years, so is his swing improving? Or, does he force staff aides in his usual foursome to let him take presidential mulligans?

Donald Trump takes full credit for the timing of Wednesday’s long-delayed Obama disclosure, as the real-estate mogul launched his own investigation into the presidential birth certificate. “Today I’m very proud of myself because I’ve accomplished something that no one else was able to accomplish,” Mr. Trump boasted after landing his Trump-branded helicopter in New Hampshire.”Now we can talk about oil; we can talk about gasoline prices; we can talk about China ripping off this country. … We can get onto issues.”

The fact that Mr. Obama did his own dirty laundry reminds that this president has no inkling how to act presidential. Standing at the podium over the seal of the presidency, he claimed, “We don’t have time for this silliness.” He then flew to Chicago with Michelle to tape the Oprah Winfrey show and attend three fundraisers. It’s not as if he didn’t have more important news to discuss such as the appointments of Leon E. Panetta as secretary of defense and Gen. David H. Petraeus as CIA director, Middle East turmoil or America’s multiple wars. Let a flack handle the tabloid fare.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/27/birth-certificate-isnt-obamas-only-secret/

txradioguy
04-28-2011, 08:16 AM
"Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency," - President Obama January 21, 2009

lacarnut
04-28-2011, 10:53 AM
Whether you like the Donald or not, you have to give him props for forcing the birth issues. Now, he will no doubt go after school records and the issue of high gas prices, etc. Obama was probably going to wait till right before election time to release the B.C. His hand was forced. The Prez does not take criticism well and is thin skinned.

PoliCon
04-28-2011, 12:58 PM
FFS. Can't we please focus on real issues this election cycle?

Wei Wu Wei
04-28-2011, 01:07 PM
FFS. Can't we please focus on real issues this election cycle?

lol come on now you know better than that.

i think because all this birther bullshit is coming from the right wing, it's important for conservatives to educate each other on what's important to focus on and what's stupid conspiracy nonsense.

they make your side look bad

PoliCon
04-28-2011, 03:19 PM
lol come on now you know better than that.

i think because all this birther bullshit is coming from the right wing, it's important for conservatives to educate each other on what's important to focus on and what's stupid conspiracy nonsense.

they make your side look bad

that may well be true - they may make conservatives look bad - but then I have yet to meet a leftist who does not make your side look bad. You guys are all about conspiracy theories - truthers . . . class warfare . . . . "the man" keeping everyone down . . . . Hell you make humanity look bad. :rolleyes:

Wei Wu Wei
04-28-2011, 03:40 PM
i'll give you truthers, they are the worst

as for the rest, THOSE ARE FACTS DAMN IT

PoliCon
04-28-2011, 03:44 PM
i'll give you truthers, they are the worst

as for the rest, THOSE ARE FACTS DAMN IT

Suuurrreeee and there are aliens in area 51 and there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll. :rolleyes:

Arroyo_Doble
04-28-2011, 03:50 PM
Suuurrreeee and there are aliens in area 51 and there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll. :rolleyes:

I was in Kansas City that day.

Odysseus
04-28-2011, 03:51 PM
FFS. Can't we please focus on real issues this election cycle?

Obama's secretive nature, lack of transparency and autocratic style are real issues, especially since he attacked Bush for a perceived lack of openness. Aside from the obvious hypocrisy, these impact on how he does business and directly affect the nation. From the LA Times:

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Here's a not-so-tiny tidbit of data that's getting lost in the White House-driven public frenzy over healthcare legislation this week:

The White House Democratic administration of Barack Obama, who denounced his presidential predecessor George W. Bush as the most secretive in history, is now denying more Freedom of Information Act requests than the Republican did.

Transparency and openness were deemed so important to the new president that on his first full day in office last year he dispatched a memo to all federal agencies saying:

Transparency and openness were so important to the new president that on his first full day in office last year, he dispatched a much-publicized memo throughout the federal government saying:

All agencies should adopt a presumption in favor of disclosure, in order to renew their commitment to the principles embodied in FOIA, and to usher in a new era of open Government. The presumption of disclosure should be applied to all decisions involving FOIA.

That was the same day he issued an executive order promising to shut the Guantanamo Bay detention facility by the end of calendar 2009, which hasn't happened yet either.

One of the exemptions allowed to deny Freedom of Information requests has been

...used by the Obama administration 70,779 times in its first year, while the same exemption was used 47,395 times in Bush's final budget year.

An Associated Press examination of 17 major agencies' handling of FOIA requests found denials 466,872 times, an increase of nearly 50% from the 2008 fiscal year under Bush.

As the thorough Ed Morrissey points out over here, during a time of war and terrorist threats, any government can justify not releasing some sensitive information. And true, Obama's always been a legislator, not an executive.

But why despite advance warnings about the realities of governing make such a big campaign deal over a previous administration's secrecy (not to mention Guantanamo) when you're going to end up being even more secretive?

And invite inevitable charges of hypocrisy and even more empty campaign promises?

Today to mark annual Sunshine Week, designed to promote openness in government, Obama applauded himself by issuing a statement:

As Sunshine Week begins, I want to applaud everyone who has worked to increase transparency in government and recommit my administration to be the most open and transparent ever, an effort that will strengthen our democracy and ensure the public’s trust in their government.

However, a new study out Monday by George Washington University's National Security Archive finds less than one-third of the 90 federal agencies who process such FOIA requests have made significant changes in their procedures since Obama's 2009 memo.

So, today in response, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel did what federal government chiefs of staff do: He sent out yet another memo. Since the agencies ignored the memo from the real president of the United States, they'll probably all snap to when the Obama staffer's note arrives, don't you think?.

Here's another recent example, this time, related to campaign finances, another area where Obama has taken a holier-than-thou position and then sinned, so to speak:


April 19, 2011 8:32 PM
Obama Campaign won't reveal fundraising numbers
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Pres. Obama's re-election campaign won't be disclosing how much money is taken in at the individual fundraising events attended by Pres. Obama. Neither will the Democratic National Committee.

An official says it's the same policy by which the Obama Campaign operated in the 2008 election cycle.

Fundraising numbers have to be filed with the Federal Election Commission, but often not until weeks later - and the FEC documents don't itemize amounts raised at specific fundraising events.

The Obama Campaign is not the first to adopt such a policy, although Pres. Bush's re-election operation in 2004 freely disclosed how much money was taken in at individual events.

The Obama Campaign thinks the release of such information might be akin to divulging strategic political information that opponents could use to discern levels of support.

Obama heads to Chicago for first fundraisers for his 2012 campaign

Pres. Obama often trumpets that his White House is more transparent and open than any other. But it's clear he does not apply that approach to his political fund-raising.

The president attended three fundraisers last Thursday in Chicago. His political operation revealed the price range of tickets, from $100 to $35,800 per person, and also disclosed the number of people in attendance. But it declined to provide an official estimate of how much money would be raised. Reporters could try to estimate the amounts.

Pres. Obama heads west Wednesday on a three-day trip to California and Nevada during which he'll be attending six fundraising events for his re-election.

txradioguy
04-28-2011, 03:55 PM
that may well be true - they may make conservatives look bad - but then I have yet to meet a leftist who does not make your side look bad. You guys are all about conspiracy theories - truthers . . . class warfare . . . . "the man" keeping everyone down . . . . Hell you make humanity look bad. :rolleyes:

Bohemian Grove

FEMA Camps

Ice Trucks being used as rolling morgues in Florida

Bush family/NAZI Connection

9/11 was an inside job (truther)

The Montauk Project

reptilian shape shifters in control of the world

The Billdaberg (sp) group

Weather manipulation - Scalar weapons and mind control, HAAPR, Chem trails

Wei Wu Wei
04-28-2011, 03:56 PM
How about illegally detaining people indefinately without trial for frivolous reasons like wearing the wrong brand of wrist watch?

How about illegally targeting and assassinating people in a country we are not at war with?

How about extending the Patriot Act which can be used to wiretap Americans without warrants?

How about the fact that immediately after giving his birth certificate press conference Obama attended a circle-jerk with his WallStreet buddies who are going to finance his billion dollar campaign? This got absolutely no media coverage.

this is just the tip of the iceburg. there are PLENTY of legitimate policy issues to criticize Obama about.

Odysseus
04-28-2011, 04:26 PM
How about illegally detaining people indefinately without trial for frivolous reasons like wearing the wrong brand of wrist watch?
:confused:


How about illegally targeting and assassinating people in a country we are not at war with?
Would that be the Taliban in Pakistan? Yeah, come to think of it, that's something that even Bush didn't do. Mind you, I don't have the same problem with black ops that you do, since Pakistan claims to have minimal control of the tribal regions, and those tribes are harboring our enemies, but when you put it that way, it does sound much worse. Funny how the alphabet media hasn't covered that. :rolleyes:

How about extending the Patriot Act which can be used to wiretap Americans without warrants?
Show me the text of the act that authorizes warrantless wiretaps of Americans.

How about the fact that immediately after giving his birth certificate press conference Obama attended a circle-jerk with his WallStreet buddies who are going to finance his billion dollar campaign? This got absolutely no media coverage.
None of Obama's failures, lies or screw ups have gotten the media coverage that they deserve, but I never thought that I'd hear you say it.

Arroyo_Doble
04-28-2011, 04:38 PM
How about illegally detaining people indefinately without trial for frivolous reasons like wearing the wrong brand of wrist watch?

They should have bought Fossil.


How about illegally targeting and assassinating people in a country we are not at war with?

You sure throw the word "illegal" around alot.


How about extending the Patriot Act which can be used to wiretap Americans without warrants?

That ship sailed in the Aughts.


How about the fact that immediately after giving his birth certificate press conference Obama attended a circle-jerk with his WallStreet buddies who are going to finance his billion dollar campaign? This got absolutely no media coverage.

Weird. I heard about it.


this is just the tip of the iceburg. there are PLENTY of legitimate policy issues to criticize Obama about.

Start with his empaneling a debt commission and then pretty much ignoring what their report, work your way past his dust covered veto pen, and land at his recent, useless partisan demogoguery over speculators and big oil.

Wei Wu Wei
04-28-2011, 04:50 PM
The wrist watch info came from wikileaks. apparently some terrorists used a very common brand of watch to detonate bombs, so we went in and rounded up people who had that watch and threw them in prison without trials.

Lager
04-28-2011, 05:51 PM
The wrist watch info came from wikileaks. apparently some terrorists used a very common brand of watch to detonate bombs, so we went in and rounded up people who had that watch and threw them in prison without trials.

So? You never heard of a crime of fashion?

PoliCon
04-28-2011, 05:54 PM
The wrist watch info came from wikileaks. apparently some terrorists used a very common brand of watch to detonate bombs, so we went in and rounded up people who had that watch and threw them in prison without trials.

and where did that take place? Hum? California? Utah? Iowa? IRAQ??? :rolleyes:

Wei Wu Wei
04-28-2011, 06:01 PM
afghanistan i believe

PoliCon
04-28-2011, 06:04 PM
afghanistan i believe

Oh my goodness! :eek: People being arrested in a war zone who might be involved in terrorism. :eek: Call the aclu! They all need to get over to afghanistan ASAP!

megimoo
04-28-2011, 07:36 PM
afghanistan i believeYou are indeed a dipshit !!!

Wei Wu Wei
04-29-2011, 12:55 AM
Oh my goodness! :eek: People being arrested in a war zone who might be involved in terrorism. :eek: Call the aclu! They all need to get over to afghanistan ASAP!

everyone there "might be" involved in terrorism.

this is the logic that leads to the "kill em all" solutions

PoliCon
04-29-2011, 09:43 AM
everyone there "might be" involved in terrorism.

this is the logic that leads to the "kill em all" solutions

I suggest that you and the ACLU rush right over there and do everything you can to defend these poor people. :rolleyes:

Odysseus
04-29-2011, 10:23 AM
The wrist watch info came from wikileaks. apparently some terrorists used a very common brand of watch to detonate bombs, so we went in and rounded up people who had that watch and threw them in prison without trials.
Ah. See, we (as in military personnel) aren't authorized to read the Wikileaks stuff. It's still classified.

everyone there "might be" involved in terrorism.

this is the logic that leads to the "kill em all" solutions

No, it actually prevents a "kill 'em all" solution. You round up all of the potential terrorists. You screen them and release the ones who aren't. What's left are... wait for it... terrorists. And, nobody gets killed that way, especially the potential victims of the terrorists.

Remember, the Bill of Rights doesn't extend past the borders of the US.

PoliCon
04-29-2011, 11:17 AM
Remember, the Bill of Rights doesn't extend past the borders of the US. Nor does it apply in War zones or to our enemies during a war.