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PoliCon
05-05-2011, 11:31 PM
Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile)

Thursday, May 5th at 10:58PM EDT
12 Comments

Two winners came out of the South Carolina Republican Presidential Debate.

Let me start this off by noting that Frank Luntz’s panel went for Herman Cain first and Rick Santorum second. Why? Their effective takedowns of Obama. In fact, Republican candidates need to note this, Santorum scored big tonight in his very effective take down of Obamacare.

Now, to the real winners.

The first winner is Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota. Handicapped by being Minnesota’s Governor, many pundits on the right have struggled to put him in the top tier of Republican candidates. He was largely a no-named candidate compared to a Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, or a Sarah Palin — the other Governors in the race. Tonight, he proved he is Presidential material.

Maybe it was because of the people surrounding him — the one eyed man is king among the blind. But I think it was more than that. He came across polished in his own right and not just in comparison to the others. His answers were solid. His admission of error on cap and trade was solid. His jobs answer was golden. His attacks on the President were spot on.

Keep your eye on Tim Pawlenty. I think he is going to go far. People forget he is an evangelical and will relate well in Iowa. People also forget he is a conservative who won twice statewide in Minnesota, where Al Franken is a Senator.

The other big winner is Herman Cain.

In fact, in the Frank Luntz gathering after the debate, Cain dominated. He went from being unknown to a household name. Herman Cain gave the best one liners and a brilliant defense of his lack of elected experience. He pointed out all the guys in Washington who have been elected and asked, “How’s that working out for ya?” It was a golden moment.

Cain also shined because of his business experience. He stood out from the crowd in knowledge of private sector job creation, the effects of government regulation, etc. Chris Wallace asked him how he could be elected President. Tonight we know – through sheer force of personality.

While I pray I never have to see Gary Johnson in another debate ever again, Herman Cain will hopefully be in every debate from here on out. The more the voting pubic hears of Herman Cain, the more his rivals are going to come after him. He is this year’s Mike Huckabee.


http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/05/05/the-first-debate-pawlenty-cain-win/

patriot45
05-05-2011, 11:33 PM
Here,here! I say lets see more of Cain. And more of him handling the revelent questions!

fettpett
05-05-2011, 11:39 PM
hopefully the moderator gives him more time in the next debate after this response to him.

Starbuck
05-06-2011, 10:12 AM
I completely agree with the assessment of Cain and Pawlenty. They were the winners, and, in fact, the only ones who came across as Presidential material.

I like Cain.

Note to Gingrich: Please, stay home.

:)

PoliCon
05-06-2011, 10:54 AM
I completely agree with the assessment of Cain and Pawlenty. They were the winners, and, in fact, the only ones who came across as Presidential material.

I like Cain.

Note to Gingrich: Please, stay home.

:)

Same way with captain combover!

Starbuck
05-06-2011, 11:27 AM
Same way with captain combover!

I forgot about him!

Dear Lord,
Please tell Donald to stay home. We got enough problems,

Amen.

lacarnut
05-06-2011, 12:26 PM
Cain was clearly the winner and Santorum came in a surprising second. The rest of them were duds in my opinion.

noonwitch
05-06-2011, 12:46 PM
Here,here! I say lets see more of Cain. And more of him handling the revelent questions!


I saw him on the news recently. He definitely has a commanding presence and style. He seems like the kind of guy who inspires confidence.

Perilloux
05-06-2011, 01:02 PM
Love Herman Cain. More please!

obx
05-06-2011, 02:49 PM
I like Mr Cain. I have heard him some on the radio and he has a GREAT video on youtube of him at CPAC.

PoliCon
05-06-2011, 05:48 PM
The question is - can Cain beat the party establishment and win over Mitt? Or Newt?

Hawkgirl
05-06-2011, 06:01 PM
This article agrees with me. :D

fettpett
05-06-2011, 07:45 PM
The question is - can Cain beat the party establishment and win over Mitt? Or Newt?

gawd lest hope so

djones520
05-06-2011, 07:52 PM
gawd lest hope so

I'd say it won't be so difficult. Cain got a HUGE boost last night. He will be one of the front runners, without a doubt IMO.

fettpett
05-06-2011, 08:01 PM
I'd say it won't be so difficult. Cain got a HUGE boost last night. He will be one of the front runners, without a doubt IMO.

I agree....it's the media pumping Newt and Romeny that i'm worried about

Hawkgirl
05-06-2011, 08:28 PM
I agree....it's the media pumping Newt and Romeny that i'm worried about


just the way they pumped McCain...to try to get an R loss.

patriot45
05-06-2011, 08:50 PM
Do not listen to the MSM!:D

Thier picks are anti picks!

fettpett
05-06-2011, 09:07 PM
just the way they pumped McCain...to try to get an R loss.

yep, pretty much. We can't let the MSM make the pick, we'll get Newt or Romney and neither of them have the balls to take the campaign and rub Obama's record in his face. We need someone that can. Cain, Bachmann, Trump, (sadly) Santorum will do that. Daniels might, Pawlenty might, but I don't see anyone else that will

NJCardFan
05-06-2011, 09:18 PM
The question is - can Cain beat the party establishment and win over Mitt? Or Newt?

Let's see if any of them have the 'nads to debate him.

PoliCon
05-07-2011, 08:23 AM
I'd say it won't be so difficult. Cain got a HUGE boost last night. He will be one of the front runners, without a doubt IMO.

Money will be what makes the difference - that and the support of the local party establishment. The GOP party elites in NH are in love with Mitt for example.

PoliCon
05-07-2011, 08:24 AM
Let's see if any of them have the 'nads to debate him.

I hope they do. :) He'll force them to be more honest if nothing else.