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Apocalypse
05-12-2011, 09:47 PM
Before the event took place, local news site the Hayride reported (http://thehayride.com/2011/05/student-to-burn-american-flag-in-peaceful-protest-tomorrow-at-noon/):






The burning comes nearly a week after Isaac Eslava was taken into custody after cutting down and burning the American flag flying over the War Memorial and stealing the University flag.


So after that first incident, one Benjamin Haas "wanted to torch the flag to show his support for another student who was arrested last week for burning a flag after Usama bin Laden was killed."


This is a video of what transpired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzFd8nU4TI8&feature=player_embedded

NJCardFan
05-12-2011, 09:52 PM
I just can't understand if this country is so bad, why do these douchebags continue to live here? Leave. No one is forcing you to stay. Move to Venezuela. Move to Cuba. Move to Europe. Knock yourself out. If not, then shut your whiny lily white liberal mouth.

Novaheart
05-12-2011, 10:42 PM
It wouldn't have killed the cops to be fashionably late to that event.

NJCardFan
05-12-2011, 10:55 PM
People like this aren't brave. They're cowards. They do this knowing that no one is allowed to break their jaws.

MountainMan
05-13-2011, 12:15 AM
People are tired of putting up with radical leftists and their shit. We are entering our third year with a president who doesn't think the United States is exceptional. We have leftist filth on our campuses teaching anti-capitalist drivel. If the radical left isn't careful, someone will get hurt and it will get ugly.

Novaheart
05-13-2011, 01:29 AM
People are tired of putting up with radical leftists and their shit. We are entering our third year with a president who doesn't think the United States is exceptional. We have leftist filth on our campuses teaching anti-capitalist drivel. If the radical left isn't careful, someone will get hurt and it will get ugly.

The extreme left and extreme right are pretty evenly matched. Neither one really likes the Bill of Rights all that much.

lacarnut
05-13-2011, 01:36 AM
What flag was burned. I did not see one. Just two idiots making fools of themselves.

Apocalypse
05-13-2011, 09:12 AM
What flag was burned. I did not see one. Just two idiots making fools of themselves.
He failed at it.

He posted this event on FB, and got about 60 some hits on it. Mostly from his liberal dope head friends.

Shows up, and was going to read a statement about why he was burning the flag. Then light his up.

Thing is, about an estimated 3000+ students and family showed up to counter protest. Chanting "USA USA USA" and throwing all sorts of slurs at him. Not to mention water balloons drink bottles and ice.

The police were called in as a result, and were forced to escort him from the "Free Speech Area" of the campus, and put him in the back of a police car to get him out of there. They had a hard time driving away as protesters had the car surrounded pounding on the roof and screaming at him.

Now think about this. When was the last time any of us saw 3k+ Students at any collage stand up against a flag burning dope head hippy making an ass out of him self?

FYI, the collage had no problem with this initially, but now do after all the protesters.

CatholicCrusader
05-13-2011, 10:47 AM
Its nice to know there are still a few kids who have their heads screwed on straight.

Rebel Yell
05-13-2011, 12:49 PM
Why is it these anti-American types look like they's melt if soap ever touched their skin?

noonwitch
05-13-2011, 04:01 PM
I've never burned a flag, but I think it is protected speech- if the person burning it had purchased the flag and is burning it on his own property, or in a way that isn't endangering the public.



Here's the thing-most protesters who burn flags are already guilty of a crime because they probably stole the flags. Even if they didn't, burning one in public at a gathering or a protest is a public safety hazard and punishable in that sense.

NJCardFan
05-13-2011, 04:49 PM
I've never burned a flag, but I think it is protected speech- if the person burning it had purchased the flag and is burning it on his own property, or in a way that isn't endangering the public.



Here's the thing-most protesters who burn flags are already guilty of a crime because they probably stole the flags. Even if they didn't, burning one in public at a gathering or a protest is a public safety hazard and punishable in that sense.

Sure it's protected speech, and so is that of those who were protesting him.

lacarnut
05-13-2011, 04:59 PM
Sure it's protected speech, and so is that of those who were protesting him.

It would not surprise me if he did not get his ass whipped. The police can not follow this turd around all day.

Apocalypse
05-13-2011, 08:51 PM
It would not surprise me if he did not get his ass whipped. The police can not follow this turd around all day.
He's probable looking for a new school right now.

lacarnut
05-13-2011, 08:58 PM
He's probable looking for a new school right now.

That shit does not fly around here. He tries that in SW La (Cajun country) and he will get fed to the alligators, gars and turtles or they might use him for bait.

Odysseus
05-14-2011, 12:11 PM
People like this aren't brave. They're cowards. They do this knowing that no one is allowed to break their jaws.
The pastor who burned a Qur'an had a lot more guts. That will get you killed.

He failed at it.

He posted this event on FB, and got about 60 some hits on it. Mostly from his liberal dope head friends.

Shows up, and was going to read a statement about why he was burning the flag. Then light his up.

Thing is, about an estimated 3000+ students and family showed up to counter protest. Chanting "USA USA USA" and throwing all sorts of slurs at him. Not to mention water balloons drink bottles and ice.

The police were called in as a result, and were forced to escort him from the "Free Speech Area" of the campus, and put him in the back of a police car to get him out of there. They had a hard time driving away as protesters had the car surrounded pounding on the roof and screaming at him.

Now think about this. When was the last time any of us saw 3k+ Students at any collage stand up against a flag burning dope head hippy making an ass out of him self?

FYI, the collage had no problem with this initially, but now do after all the protesters.
I love how he said, "There were only supposed to be sixty of you," as if that were somehow germane to his arguments, but obviously, he only did it because he thought that it would be a safe little protest.

He's probable looking for a new school right now.

That guy ought to be looking for a job. How old is he? 35? 40? He's not a kid, and if he's still in college, he needs to grow up.

Burning the flag ought to be construed as renunciation of citizenship and warrant deportation.

fettpett
05-14-2011, 12:20 PM
Burning the flag ought to be construed as renunciation of citizenship and warrant deportation.

maybe, but the SOCTUS has ruled a number of times that it is free speech

Apocalypse
05-14-2011, 12:53 PM
Found the transcript of what he intended to read.
http://www.lsureveille.com/polopoly_fs/1.2562041%21/image/3129843197.jpg


Funny Facebook said that there were only going to be 64 of you. I initially began this flag burning protest to define due process for students and suspected terrorists alike, to call on LSU and universities across the country to defend basic human rights and avoid putting students into the criminal justice system when it can be taken care of internally.

Solidarity means standing with those who are treated as guilty until proven innocent, instead of the other way around. That's what freedom is, standing with those who express their constitutional rights in ways that may be unpopular, especially the accused and the marginalized no matter the consequences.


In the name of peace, there will be no flag burning today. This country and the flag that flies over it stands for freedom, democracy, love, peace and the ability to question our government.


I initially began this flag-burning protest to defend due process for students and suspected terrorists alike; to call on LSU and universities across the country to defend basic human rights and avoid putting students into the criminal justice system when it can taken care of internally.


Solidarity means standing with those who are treated as guilty until proven innocent, instead of the other way around. That's what freedom is: standing with those who express their constitutional rights in ways that may be unpopular especially the accused and the marginalized, no matter the consequences.


In the name of peace, there will be no flag burning today. This country and the flag that flies over it stands for freedom, democracy, love, peace and the ability to question our government.


But today, it feels like it's just about hate and violence, I have received more than 100 threats on my life and on the lives of those I care about. but I also received numerous calls of support from those who agreed with me, military veterans, and even those who said they disagreed with the method I proposed but wanted to show me their support, and for that I am thankful.


We can be better than this. We may disagree on what forms of dissent are appropriate and what the proper forums are to voice them, but the important thing is that we come together and defend the right to dissent at all, especially when this country has asserted its ability to declare anyone an enemy who has a different opinion than the majority.


I feel what is missing most from the United States is a sense of community, love, and acceptance of the differences we may have about issues in the world. If I had one wish for today, it would be to make the world a more peaceful place.


Peace.

fettpett
05-14-2011, 12:57 PM
um...maybe if the moonbats hadn't pushed the mulitculturalism bullshit we would have that feeling of community

Apocalypse
05-14-2011, 01:00 PM
I think what he missed most in his speech is why he set off on this in the first place.

Haas wanted to protest the arrest of another who went onto the LSU Student Memorial grounds, and stole and burned a flag flying over the Memorial to students who died serving this nation.

So in protest of this "Unfair" arrest of that flag burner, he wanted to burn a flag too. Because no one should have been arrested for that incident.

Apocalypse
05-14-2011, 01:06 PM
And this is the original event that he thought was "Unfair" to arrest him.


BATON ROUGE, LA – An LSU student wanted as a suspect in connection with the damage of the school’s war memorial, which included the burning of an American flag, has turned himself in to school police, according to the university.


Isaac Eslava, 23, a resident of Baton Rouge was being sought for two counts of simple damage to property, one count of arson, one count of theft and one count of resisting an officer.


Eslava holds dual citizenship for the United States and Colombia. During the early morning hours of May 2, the LSU War Memorial was damaged. The flag mast rope was cut down, the United States flag set afire and the LSU flag stolen. An LSU staff member alerted LSU Police, who responded to the area. LSU Police located the suspect nearby, but was unable to detain him.


During this initial response, police recovered a stolen vehicle, which was used by the suspect. The LSU flag was recovered from inside of the vehicle along with drug paraphernalia, a clothing item belonging to the suspect, and red and black spray paint.


LSU Police Detectives later identified the suspect and recovered the knife suspected to have been used to cut the rope. The knife still had flag mast rope fibers along the blade. Detectives also learned that on the same morning The Venue Apartments located north of campus were vandalized by graffiti using red and black spray paint and were able to connect the suspect to the crime.


The repair costs to the LSU War Memorial are estimated at $7,530 and repair costs at The Venue Apartments are estimated at $400.


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