PDA

View Full Version : Sources: Navy SEALs Knew Bin Laden Mission Was One-Shot Deal



txradioguy
05-17-2011, 03:45 AM
WASHINGTON -- Those who planned the secret mission to get Usama bin Laden in Pakistan knew it was a one-shot deal, and it nearly went terribly wrong.

The U.S. deliberately hid the operation from Pakistan, and predicted that national outrage over the breach of Pakistani sovereignty would make it impossible to try again if the raid on bin Laden's suspected redoubt came up dry.

Once the raiders reached their target, things started to go awry almost immediately, officials briefed on the operation said.

Adding exclusive new details to the account of the assault on bin Laden's hideout, officials described just how the SEAL raiders loudly ditched a foundering helicopter right outside bin Laden's door, ruining the plan for a surprise assault. That forced them to abandon plans to run a squeeze play on bin Laden -- simultaneously entering the house stealthily from the roof and the ground floor.

Instead, they busted into the ground floor and began a floor-by-floor storming of the house, working up to the top level where they had assumed bin Laden -- if he was in the house -- would be.

They were right.

The raiders came face-to-face with bin Laden in a hallway outside his bedroom, and three of the Americans stormed in after him, U.S. officials briefed on the operation told The Associated Press. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to describe a classified operation.

U.S. officials believe Pakistani intelligence continues to support militants who attack U.S. troops in Afghanistan, and actively undermine U.S. intelligence operations to go after Al Qaeda inside Pakistan. The level of distrust is such that keeping Pakistan in the dark was a major factor in planning the raid, and led to using the high-tech but sometimes unpredictable helicopter technology that nearly unhinged the mission.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/17/sources-navy-seals-knew-bin-laden-mission-shot-deal/

Odysseus
05-17-2011, 11:31 AM
So, the Pakistanis and the POTUS were kept out of the loop?

fettpett
05-17-2011, 06:25 PM
So, the Pakistanis and the POTUS were kept out of the loop?

sounds like it's about the only way to get shit done under this idiot

djones520
05-17-2011, 06:30 PM
Where are you getting that he was kept out of the loop? I didn't see that in there.

Odysseus
05-17-2011, 06:33 PM
Where are you getting that he was kept out of the loop? I didn't see that in there.

I was referring to the other thread in which it was put forward that Obama had not approved the raid.

Kay
05-17-2011, 09:27 PM
U.S. officials briefed on the operation told The Associated Press.
The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to describe a classified operation.

Treason charges should be filed.

Arroyo_Doble
05-18-2011, 09:19 AM
Where are you getting that he was kept out of the loop? I didn't see that in there.

It is easier to believe that the highest levels of our military establishment engage in treason and mutiny, thumbing their noses at the bedrock principle of civilian controlled military found in the United States' Constitutiona, than it is to accept that a Kenyan born Muslim Mau Mau America hater was in charge when we eliminated Osama bin Laden.

For some, anyway.

Zathras
05-18-2011, 09:55 AM
It is easier to believe that the highest levels of our military establishment engage in treason and mutiny, thumbing their noses at the bedrock principle of civilian controlled military found in the United States' Constitutional, than it is to accept that a Kenyan born Muslim Mau Mau America hater was in charge when we eliminated Osama bin Laden.

For some, anyway.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/462.jpg

Odysseus
05-18-2011, 01:45 PM
It is easier to believe that the highest levels of our military establishment engage in treason and mutiny, thumbing their noses at the bedrock principle of civilian controlled military found in the United States' Constitutiona, than it is to accept that a Kenyan born Muslim Mau Mau America hater was in charge when we eliminated Osama bin Laden.

For some, anyway.

Leftists accuse us of fomenting treason and mutiny all of the time. Hell, it's a Hollywood staple, from Doctor Strangelove on. However, the civilian leadership, in this case the SECDEF, SECSTATE and DCI were the ones calling the shots, not the uniformed services. The green suiters (or white suiters, in the case of the Navy) did nothing but execute, and as far as they knew, the orders came down from the White House. Even GEN Petraeus' use of a drone to take out Bin Laden would have been within his authority as the theater commander.

Panetta worked for the Clintons long before he worked for Obama, and Hillary has always had her own agenda. Press reports of her dissatisfaction with Obama's leadership have been coming out since the beginning of her tenure, but escalated rapidly during the Egypt uprising, when Obama's dithering and conflicting messages cut her off at the knees. It's entirely credible that the two of them would have acted and shown up their boss. In fact, it's incredible that they wouldn't have.

Once again, I ask you what specifically do you find unbelievable?
And, try to state it without accusing us of being birthers or flat earthers or whatever the leftist meme of choice is.

KhrushchevsShoe
05-18-2011, 04:43 PM
Dr. Strangelove is about a guy who went clinically insane babbling about the communist conspiracy to poison the water supply with flouride. It was meant to be funny, not GRR LEFTIST MURRIKA HATIN.

NJCardFan
05-18-2011, 07:39 PM
Dr. Strangelove is about a guy who went clinically insane babbling about the communist conspiracy to poison the water supply with flouride. It was meant to be funny, not GRR LEFTIST MURRIKA HATIN.

Don't you have a dick to suck somewhere?

Odysseus
05-18-2011, 07:54 PM
Dr. Strangelove is about a guy who went clinically insane babbling about the communist conspiracy to poison the water supply with flouride.
Yes, a guy who just happened to be an Air Force general who decides to start WWIII because he feels that the president isn't strong enough to do what is necessary to fight communism (and his insanity isn't presented as a medical condition but a political one). And let's not forget that every other US military member in the movie is a bloodthirsty loon, as well. And, let's recall that I said that said that "Leftists accuse us of fomenting treason and mutiny all of the time. Hell, it's a Hollywood staple, from Doctor Strangelove on." In the case of Strangelove, it's obviously the case that a military officer commits treason and mutiny. Sucks to be as wrong on the facts as you are. A few other examples:

Seven Days in May, about a military takeover of the US government (made and then re-made), because the right wing military can't abide a liberal president signing a peace treaty.
xXx: State of the Union, where the Secretary of Defense plots a coup d'état against the President.
The Package, in which an American soldier stumbles onto an assassination plot by rogue American and Soviet military officials who wish to prevent the signing of a nuclear disarmament treaty. (sensing a theme here?)
A Few Good Men, in which the entire Marine Corps conspires to cover up the death of an enlisted Marine because he was "weak". The main villain, COL Jessup, even makes a speech about how what he did was necessary to save the nation from its enemies.
Jacob's Ladder, where the Army tests hallucinogens on its own troops and then kills them years later, when they begin to remember the tests.
The Green Zone, in which Matt Damon uncovers a conspiracy by Pentagon brass to start the war in Iraq and accuses them of faking WMD evidence.
Toys, a Robin Williams vehicle in which a retired general takes over a toy company and turns it into a munitions plant that manipulates children into becoming lobotomized killing machines (yes, it was billed as a comedy).
Die Hard 2, in which a thinly veiled Oliver North character murders innocents in order to free a thinly-veiled Noriega character so that they can escape to sell drugs and fight communism. Really.

And let's not forget all of the JFK conspiracy movies that blame the military/CIA for his murder.


It was meant to be funny, not GRR LEFTIST MURRIKA HATIN.
Amos 'n' Andy was meant to be funny, to. Does that mean that it can't also be racist? Lots of comedies and alleged comedies have indulged the left's love of the theme of evil military brass subverting our constitutional order.